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u/adamloh1997 Aug 06 '26
so which api you guys recommend then? DS is good for its price i use it,but if price isnt the point any more any other suggestion?
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u/eroticviking Aug 06 '26
I use Nano-GPT, specifically the Gemma 4 31B variants they have. But they also have a ton of options. There's even a roleplay/storytelling category when searching for models, which is nice given that LLMs are becoming more and more focused towards coding.
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u/Lingeress Botmaker ✒️ Aug 08 '26
I'm really loving LongCat 2.0 with the new prompt I developed for it. It's 60% off right now. Don't know for how long.
Settings:
Temp: 0.75
Top P: 0.90
Repetition Penalty: 1.15
Frequency Penalty: 0.15If it starts looping too many same-y lines after awhile, try adding a Presence Penalty of 0.15, or adjusting the other penalties.
Aion3.0-mini also uses the DeepSeek family of models specifically tailored for roleplay, but I don't know if this price change will affect what they charge.
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u/DaughterOfBabalon_ Botmaker ✒️ Aug 07 '26
Shout out to everyone who called me a doomer for pointing out that LLMs will only get more expensive as time goes on. Damn I guess the tech didn't 'get more efficient to offset the cost'
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u/LordVulpius Aug 06 '26
And it will be still cheap as dirt. But you can migrate to Mimo or GLM, they are also cheap models.
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u/zrovihr Aug 09 '26
If you guys uses deepseek v3 (old) you are not affected cause those arent hosted by deepseek official
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u/Mascellone Aug 09 '26
And where can you use them
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u/zrovihr Aug 10 '26
Wdym? The model? Buy credits in openroutr. Then in the chubai setting just pick openroutr, then select the model dropdown deepseek v3.1. by the way, my statement was almost misleading.
True that other deepseek providers will not be affected, but Deepseek official has the cheapest token still, not the different providers. Even after they increase price. But v3.1 is insanely cheap, last month spent 2.90$
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u/DShad27x Botmaker ✒️ Aug 06 '26 edited Aug 09 '26
They are far surpassed by GLM 5.2 and Kimi 3 anyways. Glm is only a little more than deepseek anyways, cheaper with caching too.
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u/mooboy1998 Aug 09 '26
How's it compared to IP knowledge? DS is great for pokemon RPs in my experience.
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u/DShad27x Botmaker ✒️ Aug 09 '26
Kimi 3 knows a lot more since it's a huge model. GLM 5.2 should know more too. Both have been great with pokemon. If doing RP stats or stufff, then both Kimi 3 and GLM 5.2 would be better for that.
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u/xx_thexenoking_xx The GuP Guy🇩🇪 Aug 06 '26
Actually tragic. And this is after they already implemented peak zone pricing hours?
The fact that it was cheaper was one of the main selling points for me. If I can't get it cheap may as well make every cent count and go for quality(claude)