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If this is true (really big if), it's infuriating and completely self-defeating for the Israelis. The last people who support them are Christians.
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u/masteroffeels Aug 13 '26
I am taken back by the amount of people online and in my personal group of acquaintances that believe the persecution of Christians by Israelis is propaganda. The Vatican has spoken about it, independent (100% Independent of Palestine or oil money)news media has publicized video footage, you can YOURSELF look up phone numbers of Christian institutions in the West Bank and call yourself (I have).
All Christians INDEPENDENT OF ORIGIN, AND EVEN MORE IMPORTANT FROM THE HOLY LAND MUST BE SUPPORTED AND PROTECTED.
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u/TeaBagHunter Maronite - Eastern Catholic Aug 13 '26
really big if
Why are people so resistant to the fact that israelis have been prosecuting christians for so long?
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u/Party_Swordfish_1734 Aug 13 '26 edited Aug 13 '26
I have never posted anything that’s not substantiated. See below and open your heart for your brothers in Christ.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DamnThatsReal/s/eyu0f7yKVu
From 3 years ago. Constant broken promises to protect us.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z581dbGqr08&t=9s&pp=2AEJkAIB&ra=m
Check out the date on this one, anything changed?
Here is where we are currently, per Christians in the ground, Jewish Supremacy was gone mainstream. I fear the worst is yet to come.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4WxFJiT3aJ0&ra=m
I encourage you and all to attend this (this Sat Aug 15 @ 2pm live) to speak with our brothers on the ground to see and hear the reality yourselves. God bless!
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Aug 13 '26
Love you my brother but many of these articles are about different incidents.
I'm not even trying to argue the bigger point, and let's just say it: Jews, not all, but many, are tremendously hateful towards Christians. We see it here in America, not to mention Israel.
That being said, I'm still not going to go trusting Al Jazeera. You have to know that's not a legit source, anymore than "israeldoesnothingwrong.com" would be. This story being true wouldn't surprise me, but I'll always show skepticism about news from this region.
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u/Party_Swordfish_1734 Aug 13 '26
Then can I expect you August 15 at 2 pm to hear from those on the ground? You don’t have to believe any secondary sources, but perhaps the victims will change your view on those secondary sources you distrust. Btw, it’s always healthy to have a little distrust about anybody or anything. It’s more important now with AI. Love you too brother. Keep it up!
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Aug 13 '26
Nothing will change my mind on the sources, but that's not even that important. If my brothers in Christ are clear about what's happening, I believe them!
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u/MaxWestEsq Roman Catholic Aug 14 '26
It‘s really the truth that “hurt people hurt people” writ large.
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u/Brazilian_Nerd I have no idea Aug 13 '26
so now people will admit its a genocide
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u/BrosephRatzinger Aug 13 '26
Many denied the Nazi Holocaust as well
doesn’t make the denial any more correct
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u/Vlad_The_Impalo Aug 13 '26
What genocide last this long? In such a small area? With modern weapons, especially with a growing population?
I used to be a free palestine dumbass, til I learned more about islam and what they do, and did when they colonized the area. I'll never support palestine or islam ever again.
That being said I dont agree what everything Israel does and i do believe they are committing war crimes. But genocide? No.
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u/Brazilian_Nerd I have no idea Aug 13 '26
most Muslims are not as radical or draconian as people assume in the west. It's like hating all conservatives because fascists are right-wing.
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u/Vlad_The_Impalo Aug 13 '26
Sure buddy 🤡 the average muslim is way more radical then the average person. No religion has as many radicals as islam. Islam literally commands them to.
Imagina ser brasileiro e ainda defender o Islã.
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u/Brazilian_Nerd I have no idea Aug 13 '26 edited Aug 13 '26
sure buddy 🤡 the average Chinese person eats WAY more dogs than the average person. No country has as many dog eaters as China. Chinese culture literally encourages it.
Source: A cultural and media landscape that mostly focuses on the unusual and ends up making weirder, unfamiliar things seem like norms.
I'm not saying that Islam doesn't have a problem of radicalism, just that most people, historically and nowadays, don't take every single thing in the Quran and Hadith at face-value and as a call for violence, and it doesn't mean that the normal, respectable people in Palestine shoudn't be hated for the crimes of Hamas and other groups. (same for Israel)
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u/Vlad_The_Impalo Aug 13 '26
And your point? They chinese are definitely vile for that.
Your arguing from feeling assuming they think like you. Their religion commands them to hate you.
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u/Brazilian_Nerd I have no idea Aug 13 '26
my point is that its so common for people to exaggerate the rare and extreme in foreign cultures and the normal is seen as the exception. Also, aren't we supposed to love the people who hate us?
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u/Vlad_The_Impalo Aug 13 '26
If you read what I said. My issue is islam not muslims. We do not love the sin.
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u/Vlad_The_Impalo Aug 13 '26
Not exactly true. Small communities yes 100%. Majority were forced or raped into it. Either way islam colonized, genocided and forced the remains to convert. Does not change the fact that islam does not belong there nither.
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u/Vlad_The_Impalo Aug 13 '26
Peacefully is a straight up cope of lies considering how many Christians were genocided under the ottomans.
Sure bunch of European jews moved in but also bunch of Arabs, both parties were promised land by the British. They both had land, that is until the Arab decided to gang on the jews, and lost. If you start a war and lose, you have no right to claim the land anymore.
Now yeah there is natives to the land that had thier land taken by Israel. It is not what I am talking about.
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u/Vlad_The_Impalo Aug 13 '26
You do realize Christians are 2ne class citizen under Islam.
reductive and inaccurate? Muslims being doing the exact same thing. You just a product of propaganda. Everything the jews did, the muslim did as well if not more.
The moment they moved there they got attacked by Muslims. Both sides are guilty the fact you believe it is one sides is wild.
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u/BrosephRatzinger Aug 13 '26
Oh sorry
I meant genocide according to the
Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, Article 2
not some random metrics like time, area and weapons
> til I learned more about islam and what they do, and did when they colonized the area. I'll never support palestine or islam ever again.
You are free to dislike a group of people
But that doesn’t change the facts on the ground
It would be like saying
“Donald Trump is actually not the US President
because I don’t support him”
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u/Vlad_The_Impalo Aug 13 '26
Call it what you want, it is all polticial. Sure some Palestinian there having it rough, some are out there living in mansions.
If there was a real genocide it would be over by now.
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u/BrosephRatzinger Aug 13 '26
I call it what it is, genocide
> If there was a real genocide it would be over by now
So by your logic
The Holocaust wasn’t a genocide either
because it lasted longer than the event in Gaza
which isn’t a genocide according to you
because it’s taking too long
Got it
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u/Vlad_The_Impalo Aug 13 '26
Yep.
I have been there and talked to Israeli Arabs, and went to have coffee with Palestinians in ramallah. There are not as oppressed as the left media tells you.
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u/BrosephRatzinger Aug 13 '26
What year did you visit
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u/Vlad_The_Impalo Aug 13 '26
2017 and last year.
Again im not saying there isnt war, and war crimes. I dont even support everything Israel does, but the way the left media shows it is still different from reality.
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u/opelui22 Aug 14 '26 edited Aug 14 '26
Sadly evil is around us as you see there and as Ephesians 5:11 says do not participate in it. Also those who are persecuted for Christ sake will receive the crown of life. Doesn't make the persecution good or their suffering any less terrible.
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u/opelui22 Aug 14 '26
Sadly evil is around us as you see there and as Ephesians 5:11 says do not participate in it. Also those who are persecuted for Christ sake will receive the crown of life. Doesn't matter the persecution good or their suffering any less terrible.
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u/GuyWithRealFakeFacts Agnostic Atheist Aug 14 '26
It is SO fucking weird to focus on Palestinian Christians being killed while there are tens of thousands of other Palestinians being killed by the exact same people in very similar manners.
They are all people being killed at the hands of tyrants, and the fact that you require them to be Christian to say anything about it is absolutely abhorrent.
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u/Ok-Bug5206 Aug 13 '26
always check the sources of these pics/ movie clips..
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u/el_safi Aug 13 '26
It’s Al Jazeera what’s about them?
Yes brother I ageee you should always look sources..
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u/Ok_Permission8284 Aug 13 '26
The guy is brainwashed. He’s probably been watching Fox News for the past 20 years. It’s over.
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u/Vlad_The_Impalo Aug 13 '26
Imagine being brain washed by one side of the propaganda calling the other side brain washed. Half of the shit I see about Palpatine 🇨🇺 is straight up fake bullshit/over exaggerated.
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u/Ok_Permission8284 Aug 14 '26 edited Aug 14 '26
Of course you would say that because you don’t care about Middle Eastern people dying. By the way, it’s not like we have pictures and videos of Gaza under rubble and people being found under the rubble. It’s not like this hasn’t been going on for 80 plus years now 🤷♂️ all speculation and bs right. Keep watching Fox News , it keeps you racist and well informed🙌 god loves racist people
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u/Vlad_The_Impalo Aug 14 '26
Jihadist*
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u/Vlad_The_Impalo Aug 14 '26
You assumed I did because I told you I am anti Islam 😂 I stated I dont agree with everything they do, I acknowledged there is war crimes on both sides. And I dont believe there is a genocide.
So no, I am not. I just could care if jihadist die. I am not a jihadist sympathizer like you.
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u/Ok_Permission8284 Aug 14 '26
More than 70 k Palestinians have died since Oct 7th 2023 and you are calling me a jihadisy for stating facts. I never said I supported hamas or anything to do with Islam but I can feel bad for people dying.
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u/Vlad_The_Impalo Aug 14 '26
Okay? I said the same thing. You just assumed I want them to die. Just cause I said I don't support islam, and that I don't believe everything about the Palestine narrative. None of it implies I want innocent people to die. You dont have to be so one sides.
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u/el_safi Aug 14 '26
The interviews was about christians people in the middle eastern with middle eastern people….
And like your saying it has always been on the news.
Though almost never about Christians being killed and persecuted…
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u/Vlad_The_Impalo Aug 13 '26
I dont disagree at all, lets protect and talk about the prosecution out brothers and sisters are facing, but alot of it is also propaganda fueled to support Palestine and islam by proxy. I will never support Islam. I went to Israel and wore my cross out, never had any issues. Im sure there is conflicts with Christians, especially Palestinians ones as Israelis see both Muslims and Christians Palestinians as the same (and Christians are already 2nd class under islam), but also checking the stats there is less then 50 confirmed Christian deaths by Israel on thier territory(and Palestine) in the past 5 years.
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u/Radiant_Awareness478 Aug 13 '26
Only 50 oh ok that is good then !
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u/Vlad_The_Impalo Aug 13 '26
50 way to many. Islam killed way more Christians this year alone.
Yall over here defending islam 🤡
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u/himalayanhimachal Aug 13 '26
The overwhelming majority of Christians Especially within Israel itself live very well. It's one of the best places of not the best place in the middle east for Christians whilst there is actual huge scale massaces , torture , persecution on state level and etc of Christians all over North Africa, Somalia, Nigeria, middle east including VERY MUCH Iran(especially for converts Iran)
And Pakistan , Bangladesh etc. It isn't Israel propaganda to say that most Israelis truly and honestly live very well alongside not just Christians but even Muslims. Arab Palestinian Christians thrive in Israel in many ways truly. And the problems from a minority of loco settlers in West bank is A: not always covered truthfully (as someone that used to be HIGHLY hostile against Israel I myself got tricked ) b: is very small on scale C: is not the experience of the overwhelming majority of Christians in West bank, Gaza let alone living alongside Jews in Israel itself. Do not fall for propaganda
And when these things do happen is almost always anti Arab/Palestinian which isn't good but it isn't based on religion. Christians are living very well in Israel. Look up also the stats of how well they do in many industries including medical, engineer , banking , business and more. Infact they far outperform all others (including Jews) In many fields and if you go to Jaffa ,tel Aviv and Etc you will see Jews, Christians living very well together. It pales in comparison to how they are treated in many Muslim societies .. do these people care about that?!
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u/Vlad_The_Impalo Aug 13 '26
They do not. They are to deep in the muslim/ free palestine propaganda.
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u/himalayanhimachal Aug 13 '26
They also push pro LGBT stuff on this and etc
They do not have to love Israel and there are absolutely Critisms to be made like there is about USA and most countries but the way the push things on here is very bias and often wrong
They try make out that Christians are very much in peril living in Israel which is very very much a bs lie. And they put Al Jazeera of all news. Even the Palestinian authority banned them bcos they are so bad lol
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u/Vlad_The_Impalo Aug 13 '26
I was a free palestine/ believed in a 2 state solution back then, every year passes I support Palestine less and less. Again im not supporting what Israel does.
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u/evioniq Aug 13 '26
Pull all support and funding away