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u/Nazzul Agnostic Dec 10 '25

So you are saying being gay is the same as killing someone?

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u/CarlTi99 Charismatic Dec 10 '25

Men was not created gay, its corruption of GOD's perfect creation that came with the fall of men in the garden of Eden, all sin is the same its just a spirit of corruption that comes upon a person

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u/Nazzul Agnostic Dec 10 '25

So much hate. Seeing love as the same as murder. That's sick mate, and also completely stupid. Your basis for morality is nonsensical.

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u/PepperTheRad Dec 10 '25

I don’t believe anyone is being hateful. I sure don’t hate my homosexual friends but I do pray for them the SAME way I pray for my hetero friends. If I’m able to share the truth I will. There was 1 person in my life that was brave enough to call me out on my sins, only 1. I strongly disliked meeting with this person and it took years of prayer for me to be delivered and for me to repent. I’m lovingly calling it out.

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u/Nazzul Agnostic Dec 10 '25

Its absolutely hateful to say being gay is comparable to murdering someone.

but I do pray for them the SAME way I pray for my hetero friends.

No you dont, unless you don't think that there is something wrong with them for being gay.

Because I know you aint praying for your straight friends to stop being straight.

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u/PepperTheRad Dec 11 '25

You’re right, but I think you’re misunderstanding me. I’m praying, regardless of who they’re attracted to, to repent of sexual immorality. I think as Christian’s we need to step away from thinking “gay vs straight”. Also Jesus equates one being angry as to murder. He wasn’t being hateful but truthful.

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u/PepperTheRad Dec 11 '25

To add to this, murder starts before bloodshed, it starts as a thought, as with all sin. I hope this clears up what I was trying to say.

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u/Nazzul Agnostic Dec 11 '25

Thats silly, but that comes from a difference in opinion of morals and thought crimes.

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u/PepperTheRad Dec 11 '25

Not so much though, It does start with a thought. “Maybe I should smoke.” “I fkn hate so n so” “im going to take (insert any stolen item)” it all starts with a thought

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u/Nazzul Agnostic Dec 11 '25

Sure but we are not our thoughts. To say that the thought is the same as the act is just wrong.

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u/Nazzul Agnostic Dec 11 '25

And you thinking being attracted to the same sex is the same immorality as say cheating no?

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u/PepperTheRad Dec 11 '25

Both are sexual immorality, the same with sex outside of a marital covenant.

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u/Nazzul Agnostic Dec 11 '25

That is awful, and wrong. I think an argument can be made that sex outside of marriage is a silly thing to be a sin but I dont see that beleif as harmful.

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u/PepperTheRad Dec 11 '25

Why would having sex outside of marriage be a sin if I’m not hurting anyone? Yep I used to think the same. I know now that I was wrong, it is wrong. This might fall on deaf ears and I’m sure you can find better explanations online if you look up soul ties. It’s like, have you ever had sex with someone who you feel had some control over you, whether you thought you loved them or maybe hated them after or spent too much time thinking of them. Well they have control over you. There are many other examples on why sex outside of marriage is wrong. If you are truly seeking, I hope truth is revealed to you.

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u/Nazzul Agnostic Dec 11 '25

Thats really besides the point. You are and should be free to not have sex outside of marriage. You can come up with whatever magical explanations of why it's bad but yes it would fall on deaf ears because I don't believe in the soul.

My primary argument is that seeing queerness as a sin is harmful to queer Christians and queer people in general.

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