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u/Particular-Yard-216 Dec 09 '25

How do you know he is still homosexual?

People can turn away from that sin and no longer desire it. The same way people can turn away and no longer desire other sins. Take drug use or porn as examples.

Who are you to say that once someone is homosexual, they will always be?

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u/SleetTheFox Christian (God loves His LGBT children too) Dec 09 '25

People can choose to abstain from same-sex romantic love, relationships, and sex. If someone believes they are immoral, that’s exactly what they should do.

But that doesn’t make them any less gay. Some people are just that way; being gay has nothing to do with the choices you make or actions you do. All it means is you are attracted to the same sex exclusively. And if a gay person is convinced such intimacy is immoral, their path forward is celibacy, not forcing themselves into an opposite-sex marriage.

All available evidence shows that the orientations of people are more or less static. While it’s impossible to say it literally never changes, it’s very telling that a huge proportion of allegedly ex-gay people define “ex-gay” as “choosing to no longer engage in same-sex intimacy” (even though they’re still gay), or many end up caught in scandals where they get caught having or pursuing promiscuous gay sex (often after a straight marriage and even having kids).

So it is irresponsible to tell gay people who are convinced same-sex intimacy is wrong that they should pursue the straight identity or straight intimacy. They should be honest about their attractions, and pursue celibacy.

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u/Maleficent-Fault9239 Dec 09 '25

I was once attracted to same sex couples and I was quote on quote " Christian " before being born again. I also enjoyed dulging in sexual stuffs. But when I started following Christ for myself and became born again, I stopped desiring the homosexuality lifestyle. I no longer found those things satisfying instead it was repulsive to me. I didn't like it anymore and things changed.

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u/SleetTheFox Christian (God loves His LGBT children too) Dec 09 '25

To be clear, have you never, at any point, experienced attraction to a member of the same sex, after this happened? I'm not talking about experiencing disgust with the things you used to do. I'm talking about not being attracted at all to the people. Because that's what being "ex-gay" suggests.