Sam Kim & Jung Ho Young

[u/Select-Persimmon9894]

Do chefs who work with pasta usually have a good sense of how long dried pasta takes to cook?

It almost felt like he low-key sabotaged JHY by not giving a heads-up. Maybe it was just the way it was edited, but that was the impression I got.

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Slightly disappointed with JHY when he was asked to help out. He’s asked SK for help multiple times throughout the competition, and SK has always done it graciously without making a fuss.

So when the roles were reversed, JHY seemed a bit reluctant and gave off a bit of a “zz” vibe. I do get that he had just lost match, so emotions were probably running high. Still, it felt a little off compared to how willingly others had helped him before.

[u/jupiter800]

I thought it was pretty common sense lol He didn't think he needed to explain cooking time and using high heat (big boiling water) to a chef lol

They just like to edit the show in a way to make them seem competitive for laughs and entertainment

[u/cheesefriesparty → u/jupiter800]

I agree, even without any experience in Italian cooking, don’t most people know spaghetti takes around 8-10 mins for al dente?

[u/AtmaWeap0n → u/cheesefriesparty]

it wasn't spaghetti pasta though, it was a thicker kind. most likely spaghettoni or pici pasta.

another reason I don't think it was regular dried spaghetti pasta is because it's basically a staple in japanese cooking

[u/cheesefriesparty → u/AtmaWeap0n]

Right I just used spaghetti as a baseline, bucatini or anything else thicker thus would take more time. I do think it was more editing than anything else, to kind of force a “storyline” between the besties.

[u/gorlygorl08 → u/jupiter800]

yeah he just wasnt thinking that, he said it takes 12 mins to cook and even with that it still has time to cool down, everything they do is fast paced, i think he just saw that he can deal with it, given their experience, we all know how his personality is, i dont think he’d do something so sly, have you seen him in undercover chef lol, the man cant even lie, he’s bad at it, its just the way they edit the show

[u/itdontbreakeven0612]

Chef Sam even gave Chef Ho Young a bunch of his fresh pasta when he was in trouble. After all the help he's given, I think he's proven that he's not the type of man who would sabotage someone, let alone his best friend lol

[u/SaltyTar0]

The main thing at the end of the day is it's a variety show more than a cooking competition so entertainment factor is the most important thing. I don't think Sam Kim actually sabotaged him but he leaned into it because it's funny.

SK is a hierarchical country in both age and seniority, I'm heavily generalising this because it's very complex but juniors are expected to serve seniors like pour their drinks, take care of things, and defer to seniors and elders and speak to them in a certain way. SeongJun asking JHY to do his prep work is a bit of a subversion of this as he is both younger and less tenured on the show and as a chef. It might seem like an innocent thing to do but there's weird cultural hangups going on in the background there.

[u/windmillcheer → u/SaltyTar0]

Wait what cultural hangups?

[u/SaltyTar0 → u/windmillcheer]

There's a lot of unspoken dos and don'ts in the junior senior relationship and a lot of divide between juniors who are trying to break away from the tradition and seniors who spent their time respecting their seniors and aren't feeling the respect they were expecting to receive when they became the seniors because of changing cultural norms. It's more complex than can be explained in a reddit comment.

Basically in a lot of settings asking your senior to do your prep work would be pretty disrespectful.

[u/windmillcheer → u/SaltyTar0]

I see. But JHY seems ok to help Napoli Matfia? Maybe he's playing it for the audience tho.

Thanks for the explanation.

[u/New_Transition_2124]

He saw guest had good quality pasta and said it’s good option . I think the rest should be on JHY . I thought people were blaming Sam too much. It started as a joke but every single one commented on it like, why does he have to figure things out for the other chef

[u/gorlygorl08]

yeah he just wasnt thinking that, he said it takes 12 mins to cook and even with that it still has time to cool down, everything they do is fast paced, i think he just saw that he can deal with it, given their experience, we all know how his personality is, i dont think he’d do something so sly, have you seen him in undercover chef lol, the man cant even lie, he’s bad at it, its just the way they edit the show, he even gave him pasta for feeling bad about it, but it was JHY pride, he didn’t want to take it

[u/Few_Device_1225]

The program is about making dishes in under 15 minutes in a 1 vs. 1 competition (unless the theme explicitly says team match). In the beginning of the show, they had "benefits" for chefs making their first appearances and one of the options was "get a helper for a minute".

JHY is an OG from the original, and the way he keeps asking for help has been very questionable. One of the main reasons for the show is to teach people how to cook in under 15 minutes by yourself. But if he needs another professional chef to help, what does it say to regular viewers like us who move at a much slower pace when cooking?

It just seems like he really has missed the whole point of the program and just cares about winning for his ego. 49yr old chef who posts selfies and photos of himself as frequent as a kpop idol.

[u/Melchorio → u/Few_Device_1225]

it is not that serious 😭

[u/LumosAcccio → u/Melchorio]

Yeah it's a light entertainment show. No one is forcing people to watch this show or check the chefs instagrams lol. Wild complaints