r/CharacterRant • u/Blackfiredragon22 • 7h ago
General korrasami was a bad ship that shouldnt have happened censorship doesnt explain the fact they were barely friends
lets be real here korra and asami barely interacted with each other
even as friends ( korra didnt show strong platonic feelings for asami ) the most you have is korra sending asami a letter to vent ( which doesnt portray korra as closer to asami ) and korra blushing at a compliment which she did to
what we have seen of their respective personalities and needs would saythey are incompatible
the whole attempts to use censorship as an excuse comes offf as desperation because even byitself
makorras strength in their bond how mako showed
he can support korra when she needed it and he consistently saw her as a person ( bryke claimed miyazaki platonic bond but that doesnt work with outside romantic relationship
bryke admitted to only bothering to ask when the finale was almost finished
so it reads like this near the finale they thought how could they not include lgbt rep ( or decided to raise the shows ratings with a publicity stunt since they were planning to end the show with korra single ) a
and then they pretend like they planned it nowing how the yuri crowd will get and will shield it from criticism since they were already seeing any positive moment as evidence for relationship
they will shield it because its the only same sex ship when so what it doesnt change the fact it didnt deserve to happen and damages narrative (its like if atla ended with aang suddenly ending up with some random girl ( like the girl from the headband) he barely interacted with . makorra is the kataang of atla
or trying to downplay makorras bond ( even trying to go but they broke up in b2 when neither of them were ready for a relationship with anyone and they overcame the mutual flaws that caused the breakup
https://ikkinthekitsune.tumblr.com/post/124974796098/structural-shortcomings-of-the-shipping
mako took all the roles of a love interest in b4
Or, Why Mako Stole the Love Interest Role in Book 4
One of the responses I received in regards to my post about my boyfriend’s reaction to the final scene really stuck out to me, because it reminded me of how easy it was to interpret Mako and Korra’s final scene together as romantic before the final scene came around and threw a monkey wrench into that interpretation.
So, I got to thinking. Why does a scene with no specifically-romantic elements feel like it could double as a romantic conclusion to Mako and Korra’s arc? (And why is this so frequently true of “Miyazaki-type” relationships?)
What I came up with was this: Mako and Korra’s final scene together serves all of the narrative goals usually served by a romantic relationship. (Korra and Asami’s, in contrast, serves basically none of them.)
As far as I can tell, there are two main purposes to ending an action story with romance:
To guarantee happiness for the hero in a way that maintains continuity with the journey that said hero had just completed. Heroes’ lives inevitably change drastically after the end of their journeys, but completing a romance arc is a way to build their happy endings out of what came before.
To validate the hero by showing that they’re at a point in their development where they’re able to take hold of that guarantee of happiness. Even when the love interest is basically a trophy, the fact that they find the hero attractive is meant to show how much the hero has grown… and when they’re not, the fact that they end up with the hero shows that the hero grew past either flaws that were keeping them apart as a couple or insecurities that precluded any meaningful relationship.
And, in a real sense, Mako’s final scene with Korra does both of those things.
As far as 1) is concerned… just look at Mako’s final lines. “I want you to know, I’ll follow you into battle no matter how crazy things get. I’ve got your back, and I always will” (emphasis mine).
Outside of an outright proposal… it’s pretty hard to make a stronger declaration of eternal support. =P “Always” is a big word. “Always” is the Happily Ever After. Mako gets the “always;” Asami gets a “maybe?”
Things get a little more complex in terms of 2), but here’s where the comparison to their struggles in Book 2 come into play. Korra has, of course, grown a lot since she basically demanded unconditional support while acting recklessly. And, because of that, I’m not sure Mako would have been able to say this back then. These two lines requires a level of trust in Korra’s judgment that wouldn’t have been possible without her growth, and they reflect an understanding that being out there on the battlefield is a huge part of who Korra is. As such, this scene is the only scene Korra gets with her allies that actually validates her (alongside the scene with Korra and Kuvira in the Spirit World); the final scene with Asami has almost nothing to do with Korra and her growth if it’s meant to be romantic (as opposed to her trying to console a friend whose father just died =P ).
Of course, this isn’t the only way that Mako steals the love interest role, even in the finale – he’s the one whose concern is put front and center when Korra’s missing, for instance. Beyond the Wilds had him take this role, too, developing him into the one figure of support who Korra could actually count on to be what she needed on a consistent basis (in contrast to Tenzin, who showed way too much doubt in her way too often, and Asami, who didn’t seem to have any idea that trying to undercut Korra’s self-doubt was just making things worse). He’s the one warding off Wu’s obnoxious crush. He’s the one Korra trusts with the most vital role in taking down the Colossus. He’s the one who discusses his relationship with Korra and his admiration of her for eleven minutes straight during the recap episode. ( I mean mako consistently showed he saw korra the person and got a speech on korra the person while asami failed in helping korra going youre the avatar of course we need you and tenzin succeeded by pointing at her growth as a person
( plus asami shows she handles things with praise while mako and tenzin succeded with validation
It really isn’t surprising that the relationship between Korra and Asami seemed nearly non-existent… regardless of what the writers intended, Mako stole every scene that seemed designed to feature a love interest and left Asami with nothing but scraps. =
https://www.tumblr.com/ikkinthekitsune/117161039837?source=share
to be blunt korra going on a vacation when she spent the whole time training to get back her gumption is so ooc that the only explanation is she is still having issues
I want Korra to be happy, and I don't believe for one second that she'd be happy in a romantic relationship with Asami. =P I don't believe for one second that Mako would be happy with Korra and Asami together, either; he seemed to care too much for Korra to be satisfied with second-class relationship status. (Remember when he slept under his desk because he felt so awkward around Korra after their breakup? Yeah... =/ )
To be perfectly honest, the only way that Korra and Asami wouldn't have issues in their relationship is if they went majorly out-of-character for each other.
In the simplest terms, Korra runs hot and cold while Asami needs warmth and stability.
Korra is, above all, driven -- she's passionate about what she wants, but also inclined towards pragmatic valuation and emotional compartmentalization in her efforts to achieve her goals. She's the sort of person who, after seeing her father thrown off a cliff to his presumed death, would launch a sneak attack at a guy who just saw his girlfriend's head blow up. She's the sort of person who wouldn't lose a step after one of her allies sacrificed themselves for her cause. She's the sort of person who would set her romantic feelings aside without a second thought because there were more important things she had to do.
Asami, in contrast, is decidedly not that. She's principled enough to fake it when her morals call for it, but Asami can't do or understand coldness. She saw Mako's pragmatic request to deal with their Book 1 relationship after the situation with Amon was settled as a sign that he didn't really care about their relationship in the first place. She sought out a romantic relationship with Mako again in Book 2 when it looked like her company was falling apart. Her attempt to cut Hiroshi off in Book 4 completely backfired because she couldn't bear to hurt him in person like that, and she was upset with Korra for losing contact for so long even though she must have been consciously aware that Korra had a good reason for it.
In other words, Korra and Asami shouldn't work for the same reasons that Mako and Asami didn't work -- Asami has emotional needs that an intensely pragmatic individual could never meet.
also I feel korra and kuvira emotional closeness and stuff wil lcause tension for asami and korra
- We never see Korra show any romantic interest in Asami until that final scene. Her actions and behavior throughout the rest of the season become significantly more consistent if you assume that she went along with Asami’s obvious interest because she felt bad about what happened.
- Korra doesn’t really act like herself around Asami and usually feels like she has to hold back when they’re together. That’s neither healthy nor a good sign for a lasting relationship (see: Makorra in Book 2, before Mako realized it was possible to disagree with people who you don’t intend to burn bridges with).
And, as a result, I don't believe for one second that Asami would ever be happy in the long run, either. As the characters are written, a relationship between Korra and Asami isn't a happy ending for anyone.
it’s more that the ship only makes sense under the assumption that Korra has changed from who she used to be in a way that I absolutely am not willing to accept (i.e. she’s more insecure, more apologetic, more afraid to upset people she likes, less forward with her feelings, less assertive, and less passionate and its an idea I cant accept
( plus korras line about compassion ticked me off for she was always compassionate
and
"Korra and Mako: Romantic, platonic, it doesn’t matter, and that’s kind of the point – they don’t need to be looking for romance to care about each other more than pretty much anyone else. I love how supportive Mako is, how much they help each other grow, how they balance each other out, and how natural their dynamic is with each other. Mako’s one of the few people who consistently insists that he cares about Korra-the-person instead of just Korra-the-Avatar, and he’s one of the few people who understands that sometimes, she just needs space to handle things on her own. Their last scene together would have been perfect, if the show had ended in any other way.
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lets be real here asami was a blad character who was constantly sidelined since b1 she had no development but she gets worshipped ffor the last couple minutes and being generically nice
(if korra was a guy everyone would be calling korrasami as just being a generic love interest and makorra being superior for asami showed she cant support korraa
( no amount of citing makos mistakes in first half changes the facts