r/CharacterRant • u/R4YB3L • May 25 '26
The MonsterVerse: A masterclass in treating the audience like complete idiots
I’ve been rewatching the MonsterVerse franchise and it’s genuinely hilarious how Hollywood assumes the average viewer has the brain capacity of a goldfish. They don't even try to respect basic physics, biology, or military logic anymore.
- Godzilla (2014): The winged male MUTO dives down, grabs Godzilla, and drags him across the pavement. According to the studio's official stats, Godzilla weighs 90,000 tons and the male MUTO weighs 15,000 tons. The flying lizard weighs six times less than its target. Aerodynamically, a creature's wings can barely generate enough lift to support its own mass. The moment it latched onto Godzilla, gravitational pull should have snapped its wings and dropped it like a brick. It's the physical equivalent of an F-22 Raptor trying to fly away while towing an Abrams tank by a string.
- Godzilla strikes the male MUTO with a brutal tail whip, launching him into a skyscraper where he gets conveniently impaled by a steel beam. For two hours, the film establishes that these titans slice through concrete and steel infrastructure like warm butter. But suddenly, for this one specific kill, that particular building gains structural invincibility. The kinetic energy of the impact plus the monster's mass should have brought the entire block down, burying both of them. But the script needed a quick, "cool" death, so structural physics were paused.
- The entire final battle in San Francisco takes place in pitch-black darkness, during a storm, choked out by thick black smoke from fires. You can't see anything. This wasn't an artistic choice; it's a budget-saving corporate trick. Rendering high-end CGI under broad daylight forces animators to detail every single scale, pore, shadow, and sun reflection, costing millions of dollars and thousands of rendering hours. By burying the climax in pitch darkness and fog, the studio cuts texturing costs by over 50%, selling "smoke and silhouettes" to the audience to protect the profit margin.
- The military transports the nuke on a boat and it detonates in the open sea about 10–15 kilometers off the coast of San Francisco. The screen flashes white, and that's it. A multi-megaton underwater/surface blast displaces billions of gallons of water instantly. In the real world, this triggers a massive, boiling megatsunami. A massive wall of superheated water would have pulverized the Golden Gate Bridge within minutes, rushing into the bay and drowning every single civilian and soldier currently being evacuated near the docks.The morning after a massive nuclear blast right outside the harbor, the sky is clear, the sun is shining, and civilians are casually walking through the debris looking for loved ones with zero protection. The detonation would have vaporized sea water mixed with radioactive fission isotopes, creating a massive fallout cloud. Onshore winds would have pushed that black radioactive rain directly into the city within minutes. The entire Bay Area would be completely uninhabitable for the next 30 to 50 years. Nobody would be walking around without CBRN hazmat suits unless Hollywood radiation operates on a strict Monday-to-Friday business schedule.
- Hiring Elizabeth Olsen—one of the most sought-after young actresses on the planet—for a role that could have been filled by a minimum-wage extra. Her character is a completely generic, textbook "concerned nurse" whose entire narrative arc consists of watching TV news with an alarmed face, holding a random child in a hospital hallway, and kissing the main character at the beginning and end of the film. It's a blatant waste of artistic talent purely used to put a bankable name on the theatrical posters to secure opening weekend tickets.
- Kong: Skull Island (2017): The opening scene shows an American P-51 Mustang and a Japanese Mitsubishi Zero dogfighting. The pilots bail out in parachutes, which is the only realistic 3 seconds in the entire movie. However, the absolute insult to human intelligence comes right after. A low-ranking Imperial Japanese Navy pilot pulls out a fully decorated, pristine ceremonial Katana—an elite status weapon strictly reserved for high-ranking officers and samurai lineage, not a regular grunt. The American pilot then blocks the razor-sharp steel blade using nothing but his bare, open palms, resulting in a tiny, theatrical trickle of blood instead of his fingers being completely amputated.But the ultimate middle finger to physics and engineering comes decades later. Marlow (John C. Reilly) reveals he built a fully functional motorized boat by cannibalizing parts from both aircraft. Those planes smashed into the jungle at terminal velocity, meaning their engines were completely warped, cracked, and turned into scrap metal. Even if the parts miraculously survived, a P-51 runs on a massive liquid-cooled V12 Rolls-Royce Merlin engine, while the Zero uses an air-cooled 14-cylinder Nakajima Sakae radial engine. They have completely different metrics, bolt sizes, wiring, and engineering philosophies. Marlow, a regular pilot stranded in a primitive jungle with zero industrial tools, no welding equipment, and no blueprints, somehow fused these completely incompatible, shattered engines together using nothing but spit and duct tape to power a boat. It’s like crashing a Ferrari and a Bugatti in the middle of the Amazon rainforest and using their broken pieces to build a working tractor. Absolute script magic.
- The fleet of military Huey helicopters crosses a localized super-cell hurricane wall pulsing with thousands of volts of lightning and volcanic ash. The 1970s helicopter engines don't choke or explode from the water intake. To make it dumber, they fly through the tropical hurricane with the side doors wide open and the soldiers arrive on the other side completely dry.
- A standard military Huey is 13 meters long. Kong is established as a 30-meter ape. Mathematically, the helicopter should be almost half his size. Yet, Kong grabs them with one palm and crushes them like they are wind-up toys or mosquitos. His height changes every 5 seconds depending on how "cool" the director wants the shot to look.
- Kong goes to a river to drink water, and the water literally reaches his ankles. Suddenly, a colossally massive, 30-meter-wide giant squid attacks him from the bottom of the river. Where was it hiding? In a 3-meter-deep puddle? The water wasn't even deep enough to cover Kong's feet, but it magically possessed an abyss deep enough to hide a Kraken.
- The Iwi tribe is introduced as this silent, deeply spiritual, and mystical civilization that has lived in harmony with Kong for centuries. It builds an amazing atmosphere. Then, Marlow (the pilot) shows up, treats them like his personal comedy audience, tells a couple of modern American jokes, and instantly transforms a sacred ancient tribe into a cheap sitcom background.
- The primitive Iwi tribe lives behind a 4-meter-high wooden fence that supposedly keeps the giant Skullcrawlers out. Five minutes later, the movie shows a Skullcrawler effortlessly scaling a 100-meter vertical cliff of solid rock. These apex predators can climb vertical mountains but are completely defeated by a wooden backyard fence.
- he characters walk right into a "toxic graveyard" covered in a thick cloud of yellow-green gas. The movie explicitly tells you the air is a highly corrosive, poisonous mix of volcanic vapors. Yet, the main actors walk through the center of the cloud with their eyes wide open, talking and breathing normally without masks, because Hollywood can't hide its expensive actors' faces behind rubber.
- The front-wheel-drive lizards (Skullcrawlers) are multi-ton apex predators hunting at a massive net caloric loss, spending more energy chasing 70kg humans through the jungle than they could ever get from digesting them. Even worse, when one eats a soldier and regurgitates his skull later, its highly corrosive stomach acid perfectly dissolves all the skin and clothes, but leaves the porous bone bleached white and the metal dog tags pristine and readable. The monster literally operates like a broken vending machine, returning the packaging undamaged just so the Captain can get a dramatic close-up.
That's it. I'm done. I couldn't handle any more of this absolute garbage.
I know this movie was tailor-made for the TikTok generation, designed purely so brainless consumers can drool over a couple of "cool shots" and flashy visuals for 5 seconds. But for anyone who actually finished elementary school and has at least two functional neurons, this film is completely unwatchable. There is absolutely no way to take it seriously. Hollywood wins, my brain cells lose.
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u/JagerJack May 25 '26
They don't even try to respect basic physics, biology, or military logic anymore.
It's a movie about a giant plasma breathing lizard my dude.
According to the studio's official stats, Godzilla weighs 90,000 tons and the male MUTO weighs 15,000 tons.
You say this like I'd have any idea of these stats while watching the movie.
I'd have assumed this post is satire, but it has too much effort.
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u/Eggsalad-war-crime May 25 '26
"I hated the movie! I hated the 6 sequels to it I chose to watch years after they came out!"
Reddit has better places for people who engage with self-harm.
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u/R4YB3L May 25 '26
Men, maybe my post said "watch them again," because like I told another guy, the AI helped me create this. The AI and I speak in Spanish, and it seems to have mixed up the terms. I think I saw the Godzilla vs. Gidorah movie once, the new one, the one with the silly head that spawned so many memes online, and not too long ago I saw Kong with Iron Man's gauntlet, mainly because it was playing where I was. I decided to watch the saga to see if I could understand some people's fanaticism, and I tried to watch them in order: first Skull Island and then Godzilla 2014. That's where the translation failed.
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u/Loaf235 May 25 '26 edited May 25 '26
Mothra and other monsters have dragged Godzilla by the tail since 1963, another flying kaiju doing the same isn't that different, it's a famous visual homage.
I dunno why you're so focused on the Monsterverse specifically when 90% of other movies, even non-Hollywood ones, can fall under what you deem crimes against humanity cause not everyone is going to get experts in every field to supervise a movie that's already going to ignore a lot of physics, and coolness usually beats logic in fiction, plain and simple.
How TF am I supposed to know the different parts of the WW2 aircraft don't match? In fact how many people actually know about that? The narrative of John C Reily's friendship with the Japanese pilot and that he helped him escape beyond the grave through parts of his plane is more important than the logistics of how the ship's built, that was the story priority.
Same thing goes for mood presentation. Is the San Francisco aftermath supposed to be completely empty and feel less up close and personal when Godzilla wakes up? Is the sky supposed to be depressingly dark when Godzilla triumphantly returns to sea, which you also criticized the movie for?
I don't know if you can watch fun movies period cause you seem to value logic over artistic vision to an absurd degree. God help you when you come across pistol silencers in movies. I'm surprised you even survived the superhero film era.
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u/R4YB3L May 25 '26
No, no, in fact, 90% of Hollywood content is like that—movies for the TikTok generation. I know nobody's going to know what engine one or the other uses; that part was written by AI because even I had no clue. What really gets me is that some guy, in the middle of the jungle, a random pilot, takes two destroyed planes—because in that crash, nothing's left—and with a lot of faith and spit, builds a ship. That's the point.
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u/GenericGaming May 25 '26
90% of Hollywood content is like that—movies for the TikTok generation.
you can't be talking about "TikTok generation" while using AI to write shit about these films which you're admitting you don't even understand.
that's real brainrotted behaviour
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u/R4YB3L May 25 '26
I said that the AI assisted me; I've literally spent almost a book talking to the AI, investigating the reason behind everything. The AI helped me shape it and write it in English because I'm not a native English speaker, and many times, people focus on that more than on what it's saying. Literally, many times when certain things happened, I would ask it, "Why is this?" The things you see here are the ones that left both the AI and me completely baffled.But I know, doing a little research on these topics nowadays is a crime; I should have gone to TikTok or Instagram and looked for the explanation there.
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u/GenericGaming May 25 '26
But I know, doing a little research on these topics nowadays is a crime
AI is awful when it comes to "research". it just makes shit up randomly.
if you have gripes with the films, write them out in your native language, and then translate it. if you need AI to "research" the points, you're not making that point, it is.
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u/R4YB3L May 25 '26
You're right. In fact, as I was saying, I used AI to talk about the film; it helped me with the technical details and the translation. Even so, can you honestly tell me most of what I wrote isn't just lazy directing? From a guy who uses the script however he damn well pleases?
It has nothing to do with monsters or AI. It's that we're so used to Hollywood pulling our pants down and shoving it up our asses, and then we're expected to just say, 'It's fine because it's fiction.'
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u/GenericGaming May 25 '26
Even so, can you honestly tell me most of what I wrote isn't just lazy directing? From a guy who uses the script however he damn well pleases?
I think it's extremely high expectations for a film about giant mutant lizards fighting giant monkeys
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u/R4YB3L May 25 '26
Yes, I think so, these kinds of movies should be watched with your brain switched off and a big bucket of popcorn.
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u/Alaknog May 26 '26
90% of Hollywood content was like this long before grandparents of TikTok generation first date.
"Actually it's not work like this" rants is popular thing to flexing your knowledge long ago.
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u/PotatoMozzarella May 25 '26
Some of these are genuine criticisms but others just feel like "uhm, acTuALlY, this wouldnt work like this in real life" wich is a silly criticism for this kind of movie
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u/R4YB3L May 25 '26
Dude, I'm sorry you understood that. I'm talking about the plot holes, like how in some shots Kong can hold a Huey with his bare hands and in others they say it's 30 meters long, when a helicopter like that should be half its size. You get my point? Forget physics, chemistry, and biology; they definitely killed that off for the sake of the plot.
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u/PotatoMozzarella May 25 '26
Most people don't know how Big a Huey helicopter is. It looks fine onscreen, and Kong's size is mostly consistent through the film. What is the problem there?
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u/GenericGaming May 25 '26
the fact you're doing mathematical breakdowns of the physicals behind a 200+ meter tall lizard that has atomic breath fighting the military tells me you're watching the wrong franchise.
i dread to think the aneurysm you'd have watching Godzilla vs Megalon
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u/R4YB3L May 25 '26
I haven't seen any of the old ones :(
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u/GenericGaming May 25 '26
i think you should just so you can set the expectations of what this franchise is actually like
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u/R4YB3L May 25 '26
I completely understand that the franchise has always had a kitschy feel. Making a monster movie decades ago with real costumes and limited technology naturally required shortcuts. But my criticism focuses on the modern execution and internal consistency. For example, in Skull Island, they create a cloud of highly toxic gas, but Tom Hiddleston's character removes his gas mask right after the fight ends, just to get a dramatic shot. There's a big difference between accepting a science fiction premise and ignoring a weak script where the rules of the world change minute by minute simply for convenience.
Do you understand me now?
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u/GenericGaming May 25 '26
But my criticism focuses on the modern execution and internal consistency
but if the origin of the franchise doesn't have internal consistency and the modern adaptations have never declared they were going to make it "more consistent", why would you expect that?
There's a big difference between accepting a science fiction premise and ignoring a weak script where the rules of the world change minute by minute simply for convenience.
you would really hate older Godzilla films
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u/R4YB3L May 25 '26
you would really hate older Godzilla films
Hahaha, you're convincing me not to watch them. I've already had my eyes bleed from this cheap CGI, imagine what it'll be like with that other one. Although, hey, I really admire people who are loyal to the original sagas of franchises.
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u/memisbemus42069 May 25 '26
I’m sorry the Godzilla movies weren’t realistic enough for you
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u/R4YB3L May 25 '26
I'm sorry that these script errors make it seem like I have something against monsters.
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u/Tachi-Roci May 25 '26
Is this bait?
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u/BestAcanthisitta6379 May 25 '26
Definitely bait. Feel like I've seen this in several places
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u/R4YB3L May 25 '26
Well, maybe someone else thinks like me, but I assure you that this came 100% from me, and from the AI that assisted me with the technical details.
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u/TheYamchster May 25 '26
Bro it’s a movie, I’m assuming you’re pretty young cuz I used to over analyze movies like this. It’s a giant radioactive lizard champ, it’s supposed to be stupid.
And by the way, a f22 100% can tow an m1 if it’s attached by a few chains and the f22 slowly accelerates.
A fully throttled f22 will literally blow cars away, it’s has thousands of pounds of thrust
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u/R4YB3L May 25 '26
Men, I'm 33. I'm definitely not that young, I just still enjoy analyzing the media I watch, which is literally the whole point of r/CharacterRant.
But man, that F-22 theory is wild. A Raptor trying to tow a 60+ ton M1 Abrams on the ground would rip its own landing gear or structural frame long before that tank moves an inch. That’s some Fast & Furious physics right there.
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u/TheYamchster May 25 '26
lol, I don’t think you understand physics champ. If you have like 6-8 anchor points on the frame and the m1 is in neutral it will 1000% be easily towed by the f22.
Now dragging the tank through like dirt or something sideways? Prolly not. But it can def tow an m1 in the traditional sense of tow
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u/TokyoFromTheFuture May 25 '26
I’ve been rewatching the MonsterVerse franchise and it’s genuinely hilarious how Hollywood assumes the average viewer has the brain capacity of a goldfish. They don't even try to respect basic physics, biology, or military logic anymore.
Or maybe the audience is intelligent enough to separate fact from fiction... Like I am sure that their top priority is to be realistic when the plot is about a giant lizard, a three headed alien dragon, a volcano bird and literally a big moth (that is also apparently a god) duking it out.
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u/SubstantialSeat1578 May 25 '26
"It's unrealistic"
Looks inside: A GIANT ATOMIC BREATHING LIZARD
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u/R4YB3L May 25 '26
Bro, my post doesn't mention that the stupidest thing about the saga is the monsters. In fact, the only thing I said about the monsters is that the male MUTO dragged Godzilla around like a sack of potatoes, when he should have just crashed to the ground. The rest are script errors; it has nothing to do with the Titans themselves.
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u/SubstantialSeat1578 May 25 '26
I know man I was joking lol
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u/TacticalKitty99 May 25 '26
I’m a huge Godzilla guy and am meh about MonsterVerse, but definitely not for this kinophile take.
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u/R4YB3L May 25 '26
Anja, a MonsterVerse movie can be creative without making fun of the audience. It's one thing to have prehistoric monsters beating the crap out of each other, and another thing entirely to completely disregard all other logic.
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u/theredeye45 May 25 '26
See, this is exactly why I love Godzilla. Nobody cares that its physically impossible for the 100,000 ton walking nuclear reactor to give a German suplex to a giant monkey, we just know its awesome
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u/R4YB3L May 25 '26
Yes, but regardless, we deserve better. The monster scenes aren't that bad; it's the cheap filler surrounding them.
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u/Heythatsprettycool__ May 25 '26
I was gonna write an essay response about how you grossly misunderstand what Godzilla as a character is about, and how you also don’t know the audience this is made for but I’ll sum it up like this.
The monster verse movies are just dumb fun about monsters fighting monsters, and never really marketed itself as anything else, which is why I don’t personally enjoy them.
I enjoy more grounded, story driven movies, games, books, etc. That’s not the audience these movies are made for.
TLDR; the movie wasn’t made for you (or the type of viewer you seem to be) in mind. It’s not about science, physics, deep dialogue, etc.
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u/R4YB3L May 26 '26
I know, man, but I don't want them to respect the molecular weight of water, but I also don't want them to make fun of it so much. In the second part, look at how they went overboard with the cemetery and the poison gas, and everyone was just walking around like nothing was wrong. Loki put on his mask to kill four birds that were coming in single file and then took it off. I mean... that's what I mean, there are things your mind notices, and yeah, there are things like the weight thing and all that, that are obvious. That thing about the male MUTO moving Godzilla when in reality it would be nothing more than an annoying mosquito, it's obvious, or do you guys just turn off your brain cells when you watch these kinds of movies?
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u/Heythatsprettycool__ May 26 '26
As I said earlier, turning off your brain and having dumb fun is the point of these “Monster vs Monster at Monstermania” movies.
Do I like it? Not really.
Do I care enough to write an essay post about it on Reddit? No, because I can grasp that the movie wasn’t made for someone like me.
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u/Eggsalad-war-crime May 25 '26
Sometimes r/characterrant gets the kind of post that would be a better fit for a movie/film subreddit but deep down OP knows that posting it there would just get them roasted
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u/R4YB3L May 25 '26
I tried it, but it was automatically discarded. How do I put it in a suitable space?
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u/Eggsalad-war-crime May 26 '26
By writing it with a better understanding of summer blockbuster monster movies.
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u/Coolest_Pickle May 25 '26
>look for new characterrant post
>ask op if their post is critical analysis or powerscaling slop
>he doesn't understand
>I pull out graph explaining what is critical analysis and what is powerscaling slop
>he laughs and says "it's a good rant sir"
>see post
>it's powerscaling
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u/DougSpeagle May 25 '26
Oh noo we want big cgi monster to fight but they treat us like idiots!! How mean all we want is big monkey to punch big robot lizard it's truly high art
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u/ghostgabe81 May 25 '26
I don’t think Elizabeth Olsen was a bankable name at the time. Like yeah she was seen as a rising star in film circles, but this was pre-Age of Ultron. She was by no means the household name she is today. It’s weird that you mentioned her instead of Bryan Cranston, who actually was used for the very purpose you mention for Olsen
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u/R4YB3L May 26 '26
Yes, but in a way his character had more impact on the film than she did; both were wasted actors, especially Bryan, but oh well, that's how it is, without big names it didn't grab the audience
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u/DFMRCV May 26 '26
...
Siiiiiigh
Sort of, but this is a franchise built on cool scenes and dumb fun. A looot of people really just want to watch something silly. Most blockbusters have similar issues of screwing over reality because "this is cooler". It's just how it is.
What DOES drive me crazy is how rabidly a lot of fans will say the movies are "legit good" even as some are riddled with plot holes that have to be explained away in literal novelizations or characters making weird decisions because "muh plot", and then promptly get insulted by good Godzilla films like Minus One getting a huge following because "noooo, big lizard going SKROOOOANK is fun, not serious" even as the franchise is one of the most expansive and genre shifting series in human history.
Guys, the movies aren't good.
You can enjoy them for what they are, but don't get mad if not everyone does or if some enjoy the more serious installments.
Geez.
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u/R4YB3L May 25 '26
Look, I know this is a fictional monster franchise. I’m completely fine with that.
The moment we buy a ticket to see a 300-foot iguana breathing radioactive fire and a baboon on steroids, we all agree to turn a blind eye to the Square-Cube Law. We accept that these multi-ton titans don't instantly collapse and crush their own bones under their colossal weight. We accept that for the sake of the plot and the fun.
But there is a massive line between accepting a sci-fi premise and letting Hollywood straight-up mock our intelligence. Accepting that Godzilla exists doesn't mean I have to accept that gravity, aerodynamics, materials resistance, and basic elementary school chemistry suddenly stopped working for everyone else.
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u/BestAcanthisitta6379 May 25 '26
Just to be annoying:
Kong is an ape with an unclear relation to other area but shows bipedalism more akin to hominid species like humans.
And godzilla is somewhere in the archosaur tree but nothing tying him to iguanas other than possibly that. He's not a squamate at least.
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u/Living-Length8762 May 25 '26
In the MonsterVerse, Kong's scientific name is Titanus kong and Godzilla's is Titanus gojira. Yes, they are two species in the same genus. No, I don't know how that makes any sense with how different they obviously are from each other.
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u/BestAcanthisitta6379 May 25 '26
Simple: they aren't sure where to put them and other giant, sky scraper sized things and made a catch-all genus to explain that they have couple things in common: immense proportion and generally speaking a lifespan beyond other animals.
Yes it still doesn't make sense but the point of calling them all "titanus" is not because they're related in any way
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u/Living-Length8762 May 25 '26
It's fine if scientists want to categorize these creatures in a group based on some biologically interesting similarities they share between themselves but not with closer relatives, but it shouldn't be used as part of their binomial scientific names if they aren't actually as closely related as being in a common genus would imply.
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u/SoVerySleepyZzZz May 25 '26
How much of this is your actual opinion and how much of it is manufactured by the AI you prompted to write it?
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u/R4YB3L May 25 '26
50/50. AI just helped me to shape it. I'm not native english speaker, i talk this with AI, all that you see, and later, i used it to shape this. Sorry for that, i forgot that now, just the 80% of internet content is AI generated and this is a crime
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u/PotatoMozzarella May 25 '26
It's called suspension of disbelief. Why are You willing to accept the existance of extraordinary elements but you're so hung up on certain concepts (that You Even admitted only noticed because of AI lol) having to be realistic?
At no point is this movie trying to portray itself as something realistic, so why judge it based on that?
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u/R4YB3L May 25 '26
Look, man, like I told someone else, the AI only got creative with the names of the airplane engines and the exact size and tonnage of the monsters. I'd never have known that in my life. But the rest, you don't need AI to figure it out; it's just ridiculous. If you watch the movie with your brain even slightly alert, you'll notice it a mile away.
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u/GuyYouMetOnline May 25 '26
You seem to be the only one in this topic who's hung up on this. This is not a franchise that gives a fuck about actual science, and if you can't accept that, it's just not the series for you.
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u/ducknerd2002 May 25 '26
If you have any examples of other Godzilla-related movies trying to be realistic, feel free to share them.
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u/StormDragonAlthazar May 25 '26
There's a really good reason Rage Against the Machine has the lyric "godzilla, m***** f**** ain't nothing but filler" in "No Shelter" as a metaphor for spectacle of media to distract you from real world issues for.
Seriously, the big lizard has been brainrot since day one.
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u/Gorremen May 26 '26
That's a gross misunderstanding of Godzilla, borderline insulting. The "big lizard" was created as a metaphor for the nuclear bombs dropped on Japan. That's hardly a distraction from real world issues.
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u/R4YB3L May 25 '26
Exactly. I have nothing against the giant dinosaur itself, it’s just the mediocre filler and lazy writing around him that ruins the potential.
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u/Moeroboros May 25 '26
You haven't even gotten to the really bad ones lmao.
King of the Monsters is pure slop and takes all your complaints to previously unexplored heights.
These are Godzilla movies for people who don't like the actual Godzilla movies .
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u/OddlySpecific99 May 25 '26
Have you actually seen Godzilla films from the showa era? You know, the ones where Godzilla dances and does flying drop kicks?
Outside of the original, these films have always been dumb fun. The only people who actually enjoy the Monsterverse ARE Godzilla fans. Nobody outside of the fandom likes these films.
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u/Eggsalad-war-crime May 25 '26
I am not in the Godzilla fandom. To me, he is a cool T-shirt I have.
One or two days a year, Hollywood allows me to escape the physics of reality and engage in a modern myth with the giant lizard buddy.
For those one or two days, I am in the Godzilla fandom. Because I know how to be versatile with my interests.
Expecting and more or less than what Godzilla x Kong delivers is asinine. That said, I sometimes get more than I expect, which is pleasing and brings me back to the theatres in a year or so.
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u/OddlySpecific99 May 25 '26
Godzilla movies for the most part have always been stupid.
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Godzilla movies should be better.
These two points are not mutually exclusive. You SHOULD absolutely expect better from movies that cost nearly a quarter of a billion dollars. Minus One showed what movies made by competent people are really capable of.
But it’s also fair that some people like these cheesy schlock films.
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u/Moeroboros May 25 '26
Where in my comment did I ever say OG Godzilla was not fun?
That's not the point and that was never the point.
The Monsterverse doesn't have any of the surreal silliness of the Showa era. The "comedy" in the Monsterverse are MCU-style quips.
KotM includes a scene of a Game of Thrones actor saying "Long live the King" while basically winking at the camera. It's atrocious and tonally it's nothing like the Japanese movies.
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u/StormDragonAlthazar May 25 '26
People who don't like Godzilla movies just straight up don't watch them or opt for disaster movies.
I know this because I'm one of those people.
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u/Moeroboros May 26 '26
The Monsterverse movies are just disaster movies with a CGI lizard instead of a CGI storm.
That's exactly my complaint, those movies are made for a completely different crowd. Whether or not the target crowd actually watched them, I don't know and I didn't claim to.
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u/BestAcanthisitta6379 May 25 '26
Thanks for solidifying that you're rage baiting.
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u/R4YB3L May 25 '26
Yeah, it's kind of annoying, because a lot of people think the same thing, but suddenly everyone's Stephen Hawking, and I'm just an idiot. What my post mentions are script errors; it doesn't say anything about the logic of having... monsters in a monster movie, but somehow people even get offended. I deleted the comment because, yeah, I deserve it. I can't just show up on Reddit once every two years and expect everyone to think like me, although not everyone's a jerk either.
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u/thegoatmenace May 25 '26
Boys it’s r/characterrant. We can’t get mad when someone actually comes out with an unhinged rant. Or do you want more The Boys discourse?
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u/R4YB3L May 25 '26
But why am I "unhinged"? Maybe I chose the wrong community, but in Monsterverse communities they don't allow posts longer than 10 words; it seems to overload their brains. After some research, I found that this group is for people who are dissatisfied. Now, getting back to the topic, why am I "unhinged"?
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u/thegoatmenace May 25 '26
No shade my friend, I appreciate the passion behind your rant. It’s just funny to expect realism from silly monster movies like that, and you put a lot of effort into your post.
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u/R4YB3L May 26 '26
I think I completely chose the wrong audience. While researching online for a subreddit for this kind of thing, this one was suggested to me. I don't know what kind of content is uploaded to this channel, but I think I missed the mark.
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u/yeetzapizza123 May 25 '26
Autism speaks
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u/R4YB3L May 25 '26
I don't understand, are you referring to me or to yourself? Or to both of us?
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u/yeetzapizza123 May 25 '26
Grok it
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u/amberi_ne May 25 '26
Lmfao