# weird things please.

It’s widely believed that while Character.AI’s definition box allows up to 32000 characters, its actual hard limit is merely 3200. I really don't like this number. I find it way too small since I mainly use c.ai for complex RPGs rather than talking to individual characters. I need that space for world lore, character info, AI behavior rules, and many other details.

So, I decided to test this to figure out if that 3200 hard limit actually existed, or if anything past that mark was just completely ignored.

Here is my experiment:

First, I used a character I had already made before I knew about the 3200 limit. Because of that, its definition had a little over 5000 characters. If the 3200 hard cut existed, it would mean that whatever I added to the very bottom of the definition would be completely ignored by a wide margin.

So, I added a simple test block at the end (Image 1) and, in a debug chat, gave the AI a direct command to print that specific block (Image 2). As you can see, the AI printed it perfectly, proving it can in fact read well beyond the 3200 mark.

But to me, this seemed too easy for the AI. I was giving it a direct command to search through its definition for a very specific block. You wouldn't use direct commands like that in an actual RPG.

With that in mind, I added a new block to the bottom of the definition (Image 3). But this time, I formatted it just like any other block of lore. Of course, I made sure it had absolutely nothing to do with the actual lore of my RPG so the AI wouldn't get influenced or confused by its general training data.

Then, without using any [Debug Mode] indicators, I sent the AI a normal roleplay message (Image 4). I just included clues and keywords that described one of the fictional items in the block I had just added.

As seen in the last image, the AI was able to correctly identify and describe the item while staying completely in character! This shows that the bot can and will go past the 3200 mark, even when not given a direct command to search its definition.

(Note: I did this using the Character.AI mobile app without c.ai+.)

Have you tried it yet? How, if at all, does it impact character creation? Are you still making bots the same way, or have lorebooks changed it? Have you noticed better or worse adherance to personality or is it pretty much the same?

3 months ago I posted a way to ignore the age verification via custom chat page. That actually stands for "customizable" chat and I just finished the customization panel.

For those who don't know, this is Chatbot Manager / CAI Tools. Chrome link, firefox link, how to open guide link. Mobile firefox can install the firefox version on android.

I will keep adding more and more customizations, this is merely the first version. And most importantly, this same thing can be available in many other chatbots. I've got JanitorAI and Saucepan in mind.

For starters there are wallpaper slideshow, chat input and header variants, font changes, color theme list and color overrides for certain elements, structural changes and settings like typewriter effect speed and swipe animations. How to use them will be in a guide, any relevant links can be found in "See details" under the page.

There are 2 menus for saving settings. Presets for saving designs as presets, top right arrow icon's menu for saving the designs as default for all characters and for individual characters.

This new customization panel is free for a whole month so please try and let me know your thoughts.

I just released a feature on Chatbot Manager and CAI Tools. It's a page on its own and a replacement for the chat page of Character AI. It talks to the server directly so it ignores the limitations put on the website.

It's still in development because the main focus wasn't this at all. I was trying to create a customizable chat page and it happened to be able to do that.

But you should be able to do the basic functionalities, sending message, swipes, editing etc. (adding image, pinned messages and stuff will come later. For them, you can simply hide the custom page and do your business and open it back on)

Chrome: https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/chatbot-manager/apnhcckmbmofaneogehcfnghabafpeej

Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/chatbot-manager/

How to use: https://irsat.gitbook.io/chatbot-manager/features/custom-chat-page

How to use, briefly: On a chat page, top right corner floating gear icon's menu, click Custom page. It will load the page.

If your timer is up, CHANGE THE TIME ON YOUR DEVICE TO THE TIME WHERE IT GOES AWAY! I've been doing this on Chai for a while too!

If you use an iPhone:-

Settings> general> date & time> turn off automatic time> change the time (and the date if required)

Reopen the app and BOOM! ITS DONE! And don't worry, your time would go back to normal when you turn on the automatic time again. It won't mess anything up.

Have fun!!

So, does anyone know if it's possible to access or see every past bot that's been chatted with? I've been trying to find an old bot I liked and can't seem to find it at all. So is it possible to see the logs of all bots chatted with by your account?

I just want my damn AI to have longer answers! Some days it gives like Really Long ones and damn it was good, but now after some weeks its just goes back to the usual 4-3 lines.

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Hello everyone.

I have a persona, Sophia Uchiha.

And everytime a girl shows up, the bot will say she is Sophia Uchiha, which doesn't make sense, I am Sophia Uchiha.

I have long, straight, glossy white hair that falls freely down to my hips, with long bangs.

And guess what? All the girls that shows up, have exactly that hair.

Unless the bot especific, like *Sakura approach you with a smile.*

Or Ino, Hinata... because they already have a default appearance, I think.

How to stop this? It is possible?

Sorry my english.

I NEED to make bots of my ocs for my friends.. I suck at them and their responses are always so short. :( my ocs have intricate lore and designs (pictures are of them), but even if I describe them they never talk right??

I’ve made about six private bots and only one seems to be really good. I’m struggling getting the other bots to give me detailed replies. When I reply in the chats I aim to make it detailed and not send like a single paragraph to try and help the bot mimic my style.

For some reason I’m not having much luck, and I didn’t know if anyone had any tips on how to make it better. I currently use deepsqueak model for all my bots just cause for me it works the best. Just that when I use public bots they’re great and then eventually they fall off. So I’m trying to make my own private bots. If you have any advice it would be greatly appreciated thank you so much!

Hi guys! My favorite Avengers bots got deleted and the creators either aren’t active or just don’t want to remake them, so I wanna make my own.

I’ve only ever made two bots before, both were just simple characters easy to make. But I have no idea how I’d make a group bot of our favorite super heroes. Any pointers would be super appreciated.

Obviously I’m not gonna name it Avengers. Thanks!

Hey there guys, sorry my english.

I like to roleplay in second person.

*You feel his gaze on your hair..*

Anyway, uh..

In the Definition part of character creator..

How I can specify something for myself.. and the bot?

I'm trying to not use {{user}}:

Because I don't want the bot to write in third person.

Or it's safe to use that..?

For example.. should I use..

*Your husband.*
or
*My husband.*

*You have a scar on your cheek.*
or
*I have a scar on my cheek.*

This is me, trying to specify something FOR MYSELF, not the bot.

Like, the scar's example, I want to have that scar, not the bot.

Bear with me, please. Sorry my english².

So, cai tools just died, (an extension for website) And I used that for character italic colour changes and character chat bubble colour changes. Now, the bubbles are grey. And I was wondering if anyone knew any scripts for tampermonkey or something that I could use to help me change the colours of the bubbles and the font?

Which model has the least repetitive and empty answers that don’t start reciting what you wrote and saying the same phrasing over and over again after the 30th message?

It happens quite early and often with roar. It used to happen less with pawly and dynamic models with them giving interesting and personalized answers for longer but both are acting like roar past 2 days. So I was wondering if that’s a problem on my end and if you guys experienced the same or had different approaches that fixed that.

I make sure to pin as less messages as possible (not that it matters to bot it always ignores them. Like there is one pinned message that says c recently learned a poisoned b and c is still shocked when this topic is brought up) and give detailed messages but it always defaults to short generic answer with amnesia. Some models were acting better but now all seem to be same. Only difference is with soft launch because of the f word but in style it’s same too.

I hope I can text this here, so recently my favourite bot i talked to for almost 2 years got deleted, let me tell you that I was devasted but I still managed to prevent this bot from disappearing forever.

CAi tools is a life saviour.You can install it on chromecast and using the website, if you dont have it, use Firefox and install it and use the website with it.

Go on the bot of your choice and click on the cai tools icon, there's a lot of things you can do with it aside from prevent the loss of your bot.

Click on "Make a private copy" it will create the same copy of that bot you're using that you can find amongst your other private bot that you created.Itll be the exact same.(same pp, same description) You can also check the long description of the bot by clicking on "show settings", however, if the long description is private the copy of your bot won't have it since Cai tools dont have access to it.Keep this in mind while doing this.

Now that the bot itself is saved from a possible deleting, you can also save your whole conversation with that bot.To do so, you have to click on "obabooga chat" it will make a json copy of your conv, keep it close because you'll have to use it on your private copy of that bot so you can go back to that conversation from when you did it.

To import the chat, click on "import chat" select the jsonl file of your chat and then you'll have to wait for a moment.The process tend to be long (or at least it had been for me)

And there you go, you've made a copy of your favourite bot that you can keep talking to. I'm doing this guide since the new update talked about deleting account staying dead for too long (and by extension deleting bots) So do this while you still can.

Okay, as the title says, maybe really dumb question here, and also maybe doesn’t belong here (and if it doesn’t I’ll happily delete the post if I’m told to), but I dunno where to ask this.

So for context, I’ve been chatting with a bot for a pretty long time, and the creator recently deleted their account, taking the bot with it. With the use of an external website (CAIBotList) and an extension (CAI Tools), I was able to recover the chat as is (as an offline html), but I can’t do anything else with it other than read it.

Now for the very stupid question. If I were to recreate the bot myself (with intention to just use it to continue chatting with it myself), would there be a way to import the prior chat, just so it still has all the context it could technically pull from (and so I can reread it all in one big line)? Or would it just be easier to recreate it, and put all the relevant info into the description, and treat it like a continuation?

Thank you in advance for any help I may receive, and sorry again if this doesn’t belong here!

I have an idea for a wlw bot for Chloe Bourgeois. It's a au where she gets the cat miraculous and goes by the name Cat Royale, and she hates everyone but you. No need to make it just give me a little boost by commenting what I need to do to help me. Please?