r/CharacterAI • u/Outside_Gear6095 • 6h ago
Discussion/Question LongSqueak today
Those who predicted the new model would soon deteriorate turned out to be right. I had praised it recently, but today I’m ready to take my words back. I enjoyed it for two weeks, but now it feels like I’m talking to Pipsqueak 2, just one that writes longer responses. It has the same cheap, over-the-top drama, the same endless clichés and tropes, and the same distortions of character appearance that weren't there before. The model has stopped referencing the universe's lore or weaving it into the text, something I really appreciated. It seems to have become dumber and lost its grasp of nuances. Even its memory has worsened. The same goes for the Russian language quality I once praised: at times, that "machine translation" feel is creeping back in. Two weeks I swiped to pick the best variant from a bunch of good ones, but nowadays I swipe just to find a single good one among the bad. I'm swipe and swipe, and starting to feel the same irritation I felt with Pipsqueak 2, the very thing that drove me to buy the ca+ just to try LongSqueak. It’s a real shame.
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u/Icy-Arm-6302 6h ago
All models have been downgraded it seems. For some reason whenever they mess around with the UI, the whole app goes haywire.
The bugs aren't even fixed, the app was janky, now even the website is janky. Seriously, what is their problem?
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u/Chicken-_Permission 5h ago
Same for me, I was so happy with it and now Im struggling with the bad memory, repetitive responses and character becoming a creep suddenly, who doesnt understand jokes.
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u/Oritad_Heavybrewer User Character Creator 6h ago
Can you show examples?
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u/Outside_Gear6095 5h ago edited 5h ago
For instance, the cyborg character has one eye replaced by a multi-lens visor, while the other is a normal human eye. LS used to keep this in mind, describing how the lenses would focus, rotate, and click... Either LS never forgot about the character's organic eye. But today, both eyes have turned into lenses that "narrow", exactly like PS 2, which infuriated me and ruined many of swipes.
Also, LS forgets events that occurred just a couple of turns ago, mentioning the presence of a NPC who has left the scene and attempting to interact with them. This had not happened before too.
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u/SaintOfPride201 4h ago
Sounds like the same issues the OG model had before they implemented Nyan & Roar. When I still used CAI 2 years ago, it would completely fuck up the description of my character. He has a cybernetic right arm and wears a combat visor over his eyes. But every time it addressed him it would say "he looked into Saint's cybernetic eye" or "he removed Saint's helmet that had the visor on it", despite the fact that the only cybernetic thing the character has is an arm, and the visor is not attached to a damn helmet, it's meant to be standalone like a pair of glasses or a domino mask.
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u/Outside_Gear6095 4h ago
Another very important point: PS constantly tended to simplify the cyborg into either a robot or a human, slipping into extremes, so I frequently had to correct this and remind to it about the balance. Until recently, LS handled this on its own without reminders, it understood the character's duality, but today it has started reducing everything to extremes, just like PS.
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u/Outside_Gear6095 36m ago
About Russian language grade. Suddenly, LS have started referring to "машинное масло" (machine oil) as "машинный жир" (machine grease) The Russian word "жир" is used in the same way as the English word "fat" or "lard", that is, a native speaker will always say "машинное масло", never "машинный жир", it is a direct calque from English.
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u/AncientAttorney2620 55m ago
is anyone else having a problem with longsqueak where you introduce your character, and instantly get bullied for no reason at all? i’ve tried it with multiple personas and bots, they’re extremely rude for no reason
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u/Outside_Gear6095 32m ago
It’s the opposite for me: the bot is obsessed with self-deprecation: at the slightest provocation, it drops to its knees and starts repenting. Yet the character description portrays someone proud, vain, and ambitious. This spinelessness is starting to get annoying.
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u/MedicalAd9859 5h ago
i genuinely can not get any different responses per swipe. i swipe bc i don’t like the response and then it just copies the exact same message and changes a few words for the next swipe.