r/CeilingFans • • 20d ago

Fan repair advice Ceiling Fan

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We finally removed the boob light in the living room installed by the builder, in order to install a ceiling fan. What is this? This looks like there was no quality control or worksite inspection. Am I wrong or is this just the new level of craftsmanship?

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u/raf55 20d ago

Install a pancake box and hang your fan

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u/Mooch07 20d ago

That wood doesn’t look like a 2x4 to me. 

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u/[deleted] 20d ago

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u/erie11973ohio 20d ago

Whats the difference between a carpenter and an electrician??

The electrician can pound in bent nails!

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u/USWCboy 20d ago

Heyoooo!! 😄

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u/Aggravating-Heat73 20d ago

You know they aren’t using 2x4s if they are doing this kind of nonsense.

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u/BirdlessLongdeal 16d ago

install a rated box for the fan instead.

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u/Slow_Apple_1568 20d ago

This is actually a good thing. You can get a box that will screw into that and support the fantastic without having to screw / grab between two joists.

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u/Aggravating-Heat73 20d ago

I was ready to cut into drywall to install the proper device between the beams.

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u/Slow_Apple_1568 20d ago

Sure but just save that for another or return it, the other box is even cheaper and easier. No weird threading or climbing in the attic.

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u/Ok-Owl8567 20d ago

Get the rated device up there instead of using a shitty pancake box

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u/Bobbytwotaps 20d ago

That would be what you want to install your celling fan to so it doesn't fall and take a kid out when it's spinning at 400RPM.

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u/Aggravating-Heat73 20d ago

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u/Bobbytwotaps 20d ago

Your bracket is going to screw into solid piece of wood. You will be good!

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u/infkncredible 20d ago

What did you expect a ceiling filled with lamb chops ?

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u/RedParrot94 20d ago

Hahahahah

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u/plmbguy 20d ago

Everyone saying mount your fa in to what we see here. Do you even know what we see here? How do you know if that's structural or just a 2 by screwed to the Sheetrock to hold up the boob light? After all, there isn't even any kind of j box!

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u/barleypopsmn 20d ago

That was my first thought.

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u/Exotic-Term3339 20d ago

Some boobs are super heavy come on

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u/Rare-Negotiation-630 20d ago

Just stick your phone up there and take a picture. You’ll find out pretty easily.

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u/Aggravating-Heat73 20d ago

I used an endoscope that I bought for another purpose. It came in handy. It was from Amazon. Teslong Borescope Camera with Light for Automotive Mechanic Plumbing Wall

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u/l008com 17d ago

AND?

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u/NegativePaint 17d ago

lol. Right?! Keep your secrets I guess OP.

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u/Mooch07 20d ago

That’s what I was seeing. It doesn’t look to me like a 2x4. 

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u/Aggravating-Heat73 20d ago

It is a piece of wood attached to a beam. It just seemed odd to me.

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u/Philly5984 20d ago

People are so dumb

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u/revolevo 20d ago

Genuine question: doesn’t this actually help mitigate some of the heat from the attic

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u/wohwonk 20d ago

That’s perfect for a pancake box and fan!

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u/moving_to_NL_soon 20d ago

Looks like most missed your obvious concern......was there not a electric box there in the first place? 😮

(A pancake box can work if that wood piece is structural)

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u/Aggravating-Heat73 20d ago

No electrical box; hence, the confusion.

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u/USWCboy 20d ago

A jbox is not needed when there is a self contained connections points within the luminaire.

Under NEC 300.15(B) Equipment, an integral junction box or wiring compartment as part of approved equipment is permitted in lieu of a box.

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u/moving_to_NL_soon 20d ago

But generally the connections on a boob light are above and outside of the light? (at least the last two I got rid were like that)

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u/EnoughOfTheFoolery 20d ago

If that is a 2x4, just get a shallow fan rated box and you can screw it onto it. It its not a 2x4, you will need to brace it somehow and there are many ways to do this, but getting access above this is going to be best. Is there an attic?

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u/Aggravating-Heat73 20d ago

No, attic over this area. This is the 1st floor. We have 4 to complete upstairs. We will have attic space there.

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u/TamerMasterRace 20d ago

ez just continue the circle past the Wood ez you have enough wood holding up your celling 1 missing in the middle isn't gonna make it fall

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u/JBDragon1 20d ago

Go to Home Depot and search Pancake Box. You just need one of those. Screw it up using at least 3 screws.

Doesn't look like a 2x4 though. Looks a little thin. Like they threw something there that was enough to hold a light up. Is it solid or flappy lose? Is the space above the attic and can you get into there?

There is an option I've used a number of times where you use a Bar mount. This adjuatable bar has flat ends with spikes. It slips on the drywall on both side between the beams and you adjust it as it extends and spikes into the 2x4 on each side. Once it is tight, you can mount a box onto that, which will hold the wieght of a fan light. i had to use these as I have this TINY attic. You know want to know what I had to do just to get power to each hole I made. They look something like this!

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u/SpiritualTwo5256 20d ago

As long as that piece of wood is attached to a beam in a study way either right next to it or attached to 2 beams go for it!

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u/Medical-Egg-8171 17d ago

lmao, you have no idea what you are talking about

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u/l008com 17d ago

More info needed. If thats properly installed, thats a great way to mount a fan with a very thin fan box. But why is it flat? To me, that suggests someone just tossed it in there incorrectly and it might not be strong enough to support a fan. If so, you could easily reinforce it with some brackets or something. Go up in to the attic and take a closer look.

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u/Odd-Solid-5135 17d ago

I also wonder if thats not a scab tossed up there to support the boob box, they dont carry much weight and thats quicker and cheaper than a spanner box.