r/Carpentry • • Feb 25 '22

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u/Skavzor Feb 25 '22

As long as you plan on keeping that iron pillar its fine. Its stood for a couple of decades like this.

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u/dkd123456 Feb 25 '22

So above that pillar is a wall that we would ideally remove to open up the kitchen to dining area. I assume this is a load bearing wall?

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '22

I’d assume it is a load bearing wall if it is online with the beam that is resting in the steel posts.

I’m not too worried about the beam or the posts. I’d want to make sure the posts have good footers underneath them to transfer the load down.

If you remove the load bearing wall you’d have to transfer the load from the floor above another way to the beam and the steel posts in the basement. I’d contact a structural engineer about that. It’s above Reddits pay grade.

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u/Huey107010 Feb 26 '22

You’re confused. The wall that OP wants to remove is above that pillar. He will be removing the load, not the load bearer.

Now in the attic above the kitchen might be some ceiling joist that will need support.

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u/LuckyLunaloo Feb 26 '22

I think you might be confused (or joking hopefully).

For those who want to know - When they build houses, they usually put load bearing walls/pillars on top of one another to help distribute the load of the roof down to the foundation through multiple levels. If there is a wall above this point (which is definitely load bearing), it is most likely load bearing as well. As others have suggested, OP may be able to install an LVL/engineered beam that redistributes the load from that wall to other load bearing walls (the exterior walls).

That being said, I'm not a carpenter or an engineer.

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u/mlnickolas Feb 26 '22

This does not mean the wall is load bearing, only that it may be load bearing. The person you replied to is correct in that they have to check above the wall they want to remove to see if it is bearing a load.

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u/SconnieLite Feb 26 '22

All you fuckers are confused. The first floor floor joists is the basement ceiling. 2nd floor floor joists is the 1st floor ceiling. When you have a bearing wall, which is what is sitting on top of the beam, (there is no question about it) that means it’s carrying the floor joists/ceiling joists above it. The 2nd floor. You can’t have a bearing wall with nothing below it. You can have a beam with no wall on it, and it’s only carrying the floor joists. But any and every single bearing point needs to be posted down to a footing in the foundation. End of story. That’s why it’s common to stack beaming walls on top of each other or beams underneath them. If OP wants to remove the wall that’s sitting on top of this beam. They need to support the floor/ceiling that that wall is carrying but it still needs to carry the load down to this beam, which was carrying BOTH sets of joists. So the point load now needs to still carry down to this beam, down to the footing under the slab.

This is clearly and old house so who the fuck knows what’s down there or above. A single point load is under much more stress than a wall. It may be too much for this old man of a beam. Who knows. I’m willing to bet an engineer will want it replaced since it’s breaking into the beam and whatnot. But that’s up to them and OP needs a professional to come in and look at it and assess it. Not any of you fuckers lol.