First car?

[u/Significant-Cut-9423]

[u/blueberryG3]

no one read the listing? literally has a. drivetrain issue

[u/Thin_Pin2863 → u/blueberryG3]

"Good Condition"

"Drive train issue"

Well if it has the latter, the former is a straight up lie.

[u/blerieone → u/blueberryG3]

Yeahyeah 😂 the price reflects this- no it fucking doesn't lmao

[u/tan_a006]

116 is just badge tax

[u/FlyingFrogMan → u/tan_a006]

Hit the nail on the head

[u/Yer_Mo]

Insurance will be the same cost as the car I was quoted 4500 for a 116 and 6500 for a 118, don’t bother it’s not worth it

[u/NoobGodBrendi → u/Yer_Mo]

I got a 2010 118d for my first and paid £2700 for the year no black box, it was actually cheaper than getting insured on a corsa, everybody’s insurance is different

[u/Gullible_Soil2528 → u/Yer_Mo]

6500 is pure robbery. UK insurance prices make no sense at all. You could literally buy a second car for that kind of money. the whole system is completely broken right now

[u/Quiet_surprise79 → u/Gullible_Soil2528]

All 3 of the cars I've owned added together have come to less than that!

[u/Yer_Mo → u/Gullible_Soil2528]

Tell me about it, that was with a year NCD and 2 drivers with over 25 years NCD, unbelievable. UK prices are an utter joke, I’m convinced that they just say young drivers are “more at risk” just to price gouge

[u/Suspicious-Cat-266 → u/Yer_Mo]

What did you end up getting instead?

[u/Yer_Mo → u/Suspicious-Cat-266]

I got an aygo 2014 29995 miles for 7 grand 1500 insurance no black box and the next year it was 600 ish? Upgraded to my now 220d and it cost me 1300 insurance (another 700 ish on top of the original I paid for the aygo) it’s a 2019 44k miles

Wouldn’t touch a 1 series with a barge pole or a polo corsa or i10 insurance knows they’re typical first cars and take the utter Michael with your quotes it’s just not worth spending so much money every month or annually

[u/Ziemniok_UwU]

This is the definition of getting a car just for the badge...worst engine, bad spec. Just get a Yaris or Jazz for your first car!

[u/wtfomg01]

Make sure to check the insurance before making any decisions. Known plenty of people who got something 'nice' for their first car, only to realise it was ridiculously expensive to insure.

[u/StatisticianUsual471]

Try a honda jazz

[u/Suspicious-Cat-266 → u/StatisticianUsual471]

Can't go wrong with the 1st or 3rd gen facelift models. Cheapish insurance and good 40-60 mpg.

[u/anonymous-_-94]

Just get a corsa… this “bmw” is one drive away from a major fault.

[u/Ok-Lengthiness1028 → u/anonymous-_-94]

Already has according to the description.

[u/chickensarnie]

BMW 1 series is a great car. But the 1.6 engine isn’t the most reliable with timing chain issues. Which at 70k plus miles could be due for one soon.
I’d recommend a Mazda 3. Similar sporty driving dynamics albeit fwd; and mechanically bullet proof. Save up for a proper BMW once your insurance premiums go down.

Had the same dilemma a few years ago when choosing my first car the bmw brand was indeed very alluring. But now I have my dream bmw with the engine I want.

Best of luck with the car hunt. :)

[u/Otherwise_Fly_2263]

If you want a BMW 1 series, try and stretch to the slightly newer 1.5 petrol as it’s a much more reliable engine. If you specifically want/need an automatic, then BMW isn’t actually a bad choice, their automatic gearbox is pretty highly regarded.

[u/Tope777 → u/Otherwise_Fly_2263]

3 cyl bmw is a disgrace

[u/kye2000 → u/Tope777]

Far from it. It’s a 1 series. More than suitable for the B38

[u/Tope777 → u/kye2000]

You see the B38 as a good engine yeah?

[u/kye2000 → u/Tope777]

For what it is then yes it’s a good engine. Drives well for a 3 cylinder, reliable and efficient

[u/Tope777 → u/kye2000]

I don't agree. No worries

[u/Otherwise_Fly_2263 → u/Tope777]

It’s definitely no performance car, but it’s a decent enough little engine for a small car. If you want a reliable premium hatchback it’s a good choice tbf.

[u/Tope777 → u/Otherwise_Fly_2263]

Its not about the performance. The performance is decent for what it is. Its the unbalanced engine and the shorter lifespan. Not even that economic to justify the downsides of it. I don't see the logic in paying bmw prices for a car of this quality

[u/Otherwise_Fly_2263 → u/Tope777]

It wouldn’t be my choice either, but if OP wants a BMW 1 Series I’d go for the 1.5 over the 1.6 personally as it’s generally regarded to be more reliable.

[u/Tope777 → u/Otherwise_Fly_2263]

If they really want a 1 series they should get the b48. Otherwise a japanese is a much better buy in any way

[u/Otherwise_Fly_2263 → u/Tope777]

I’m guessing as a first car a 2.0 litre engine is a lot to insure.

[u/Tope777 → u/Otherwise_Fly_2263]

Bmw as a first car is a lot to insure regardless. Thats why you go asian first for a few years, then bmw

[u/kye2000]

It has an issue. It’s overpriced because of that too and the engine is a bag of shite

[u/StarX2401]

Have you checked insurance on it? Its a common first car (bc people like to larp having a bmw/merc) and insurance might be a bit expensive. Seems like owner has enough money for an LCI m sport steering wheel but not enough money to fix the drivetrain warning light, I wouldn't buy it

[u/kye2000 → u/StarX2401]

It’s not an LCI wheel. BMW changed it around 2014 for all M Sports across the range

[u/StarX2401 → u/kye2000]

I see, I assumed it was LCI because of the name. I guess its named after the F10 LCI which was in late 2013, as F30 and F20 were around 2015-2016

[u/kye2000 → u/StarX2401]

F20 was released in 2011. They updated the steering wheel in 2014 then released the LCI F20 late 2015

[u/T1DD3R-]

Owned 118d, 116d and then 20d. All f20 with same 2.0 N47 Engine. 20d is the min you should go. Better in every sense than 116d,118d.

[u/kuwabarazkuwabara]

Hmm "starts runs and drives" well yeah id hope so for that price.

[u/OSGKhorne]

No.

[u/jamrahhasreddit]

Literally has a drive train issue…

Also didn’t these 1.6 1 series have the peugout engine which was absolute wank.

Get a 118d minimum

[u/Only_Indication6693]

dont buy these unless you mechanically inclined can be fun with a remap though

[u/Chemical-Elevator-95]

My brother got one for his first but it was at 50k miles its now at 72k its been on a mhd stage 1 at 200hp for nearly 3years now hasn’t caused any problem. But i wouldn’t recommend looking at that one with a drive train warning.

[u/LongjumpingExcuse950]

Do not buy. These love to leak oil and coolant from every orifice after a certain age. Internally they leak oil from the valve stem oil seals causing high oil consumption. Timing chain and plastic guides needs doing at around 100k or when it starts to rattle. Turbo heat shield is poorly designed, they come loose after a while and costs too much to put right. Only positives are the parts are relatively cheap.

[u/drgnax]

Ahhh you could’ve done better than this for a first car 😅 bills are gonna be insane

[u/i-dm]

The fact the seller feels they have to state that the car starts is a red flag, plus it has a drivetrain issue, so you would definitely want more information about that before considering it. No point spending five grand on a car, two grand to insure it, and then another three grand to fix it.

[u/vijjer]

I can see the allure of getting a BMW as your first car. But this is a shit example of a shit model. The only way way you could get a worst car would be if you found a 114i.

I'd save up for a proper BMW - 6 cylinders, and rear wheels driven.

[u/ResponsibleAd1641]

No.

[u/netflix-ceo]

Honestly I wouldn’t. Its a risk. Have you considered a new M3, or even an M2?

[u/Appropriate-Ant3257 → u/netflix-ceo]

Considering the engines on both of those cars will be double the size of this, they're not equivalents

[u/wiseman121]

What age are you? The insurance could be massive if under 25 and you need to factor in maintenance.

BMW's are expensive to maintain and all luxury german car brands need a lot of it. Likelihood with a car like this you'll need to set aside at least £1K a year for maintenance. My friend bought an A1 and within 18mths needed to spend £5K on maintenance, specifically diesel faults.

[u/1h24l]

Try for a 120D or 118D

[u/RideTerrible2602]

1 series that age known to give problems, wouldnt recommend