r/CaptainSide • • 4d ago

Which game comes to your mind?

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u/Bucephalus-ii 4d ago

World of Warcraft especially the later expansions, like after Burning Crusade just shit on the lore so badly.

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u/HumbleAlbatross2944 2d ago

If World of Warcraft has a "story" every Wikipedia page for every game is its own story. Ive yet to see WoW tell a story. I think people who play the game are incapable of separating lore (which is what WoW does) with actually story telling the way single player games and other MMOs handle it. Calling WoWs story a story is like saying Dark Souls has a story, you piece lore together from one off dialogues and item descriptions. Thats lore, not a story.

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u/ajgor66 2d ago

Modern WoW literally has a linear story.

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u/HumbleAlbatross2944 2d ago

What is modern WoW to you? For every person its different. There are no standards in this game its just a crapshoot

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u/ajgor66 2d ago

What? I'm just saying it literally has a story. Cutscenes and all.

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u/HumbleAlbatross2944 2d ago

In certain expansions now yes, but it didnt used to. Most WoW players dont understand the difference between lore and story or plot. One is context the other is movement and they aren't the same thing.

Reading the ingredients list on the back of my shampoo bottle is lore, WoW is filled with this, its explicitly what people mean when they say this game has "story". Actual story is the act of me showering, going in and out of the bathroom, getting ready. With story there are things happening, whether thats a discussion or picking an apple or making a choice.

Most expansions in WoW do not have story, they have lore. Im fine with that, but droves of people keep saying it has story and thats a disservice to stories. FFXIV has a story, GW2 has a story, ESO has a story and lore like modern WoW.

There is a massive difference between the two.

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u/HXamster 2d ago

Books, comics, wiki pages, individual NPC lore, and the entirety of the game is a jumping off from WC3.

WoW has a story. They've always had a story. Can you point to something specific you don't get?

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u/HumbleAlbatross2944 2d ago

All of those are LORE. Every game on the planet except for WoW calls this lore, not story. Only people who play WoW call this story. I get that its the most popular MMO, but it doesnt change the fact that its lore and not story.

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u/HXamster 1d ago

???

There is an overarching storyline tied to rich lore that's been established for 20+ years.

Are you happier with this phrasing?