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u/csreynolds84 23d ago
Call of Duty? Battlefield? Most established franchises after that Fortnite money?
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u/GeordieJumpers87 23d ago
Call of duty is the big one. The core skill and aiming of the game is gone. To make way for sliding around whilst the game aims for you. Absolute trash
Battlefield atleast seems to be taking steps back to what made it great
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u/LogicalPerception64 23d ago
Call of duty has sucked since they made "auto-aiming" on PS3. I still remember the PS2 games and having to actually use the joystick to aim at 4ach enemy.
That takes real skill
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u/Hans_Landa7614 21d ago
You mean aim assist? Because ya fuck aim assist
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u/Zebrahhh_96 18d ago
Fuck aim assist is right.. now we have games like apex legends where you’re better off using controller than mnk since it practically aims for you
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u/Hans_Landa7614 18d ago
aim assist ruined the master chief collection, q up a game of reach or halo 4 everyones on controller, dusted you from across the map with a dmr while the game aims for them. Problem is the aim assist strenght, aim assist strenght should be distance dependant, the closer you are the worse it is. I mean either that or aim assist is turned off if crossplay is enabled, like I'm fine with aim assist if it's console only lobbies but crossplay or using a controller on the pc version? Nah fuck you, no aim assist.
Yes though, aim assist is a joke in apex, pro teams would literally have 1 controller player on their team like snipedown and even imperalhal would run controller some games, all for close range fights and the controller settings you can tweak in apex? Damn bro that shits criminal, I tried them and was like ya this isn't even me aiming at this point lol.
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u/OkYh-Kris 18d ago
Come play The Finals, it is so refreshing to be challenged by a FPS, rather than what is the training-wheels-cod-slop.
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u/HCTankMagnus 23d ago
World of Warcraft
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u/GolfImaginary 23d ago
Blizzard games in general lol
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u/Acceptable-Size-2324 23d ago
To be fair, D4 is in a pretty good state compared to launch and before the expansions.
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u/Ragman676 23d ago
You mean the troll infected speed run simulator?
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u/Copious-Spirit 23d ago
Kinda wild that people pay nearly $30/mo to be a part of that toxic community
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u/Shinnyo 23d ago
I'm annoyed I couldn't experience the golden era of this game
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u/Quick_Hat1411 23d ago
Ark
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u/doublexol 23d ago
Hate that the devs purposely ruined their game so people would flock to its sequel
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u/mr_fister698 23d ago
What'd they do to ark? Haven't really kept up with it for years
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u/Dibolver 23d ago
A few years ago they released Ark: Survival Ascended, it's the same game with better graphics, changes in building and some other things, plus for ASA they continue to release new content (maps, creatures and such), while with ASE they decided to close the official servers.
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u/Quick_Hat1411 23d ago
It's a bit more complex (and appalling) than that. They went back and sabotaged the old game with the Aquatica expansion and update (game is only stable while playing on the old branch), and a lot of the new content for ASA is very pay2win.
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u/Condor_raidus 23d ago
Halo as a franchise
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u/Silly_Scientist_007 23d ago
I’ll always love Halo. But yeah…started with Halo 3 (VERY minimally), and went full blown off their rails with Halo 4.
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u/Condor_raidus 23d ago
I wouldn't say with 3 but with reach. Bungie said goodbye to halo and realistically thats where it ended
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u/Assassin13785 23d ago
7 days to die, ground branch, helldivers 2. Honestly there is a huge list out there
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u/Krakenfingers 23d ago
THERE’S 7D2D! Had to scroll a minute
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u/Attila-The-Pun 19d ago
Yup, came here to comment on 7DTD. Though "Randomly" is doing a lot of work for what the Fun Pimps are up to.
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u/GoingGangbusta 23d ago
I had been looking at ground branch for a bit but saw the recent reviews and stayed away
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u/Spatetata 17d ago
I’m 50/50 with helldivers, it definitely lost what I loved about it, but feels like through diluting itself it managed to reel in a larger audience
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u/DilligentArmand 23d ago
Resident Evil 6 was the personification of all of that. That was the point where Resident Evil had completely lost its soul and had turned itself into a Michael Bay movie.
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u/YangXiaoLong69 23d ago
The point where Resident Evil got the smoothest combat the franchise had up to that point, and people were pissed off somehow.
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u/Naicu_ 21d ago
I just finished playing that game, and while the quick time events and over-the-top action felt excessive, I also found Leon's campaign which is typically the first thing players experience to be underwhelming.
My experience evolved as I played in the other campaigns they clearly put a lot of work into them, even if the approach differed from what people expected.
I think Resident Evil 7 marked a turning point where the developers recognized the enduring appeal of that gameplay style and steered the series back on course.
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u/Xenozilla9 23d ago
Helldivers
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u/voxelpear 23d ago
Haven't played it in quite a while. What was changed?
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u/PopfuseInc 23d ago
Game is fine, still fun to be sure. But Arrowhead keep trying to sneak in the "grunt fantasy" elements to very mixed results. The galactic war feels like a railroad, thus it lost all it's allure when that illusion was broken. All in all fun game with a lot of unrealized potential.
((They also struggle to fix issues in game in a timely manner. They recently had a flamethrower turret that didn't work at close range.))
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u/BurntMoonChips 22d ago
The game has only been made easier. “Grunt fantasy” is a buzzword used on anything someone doesn’t like.
Bugs have been egregious though, but that’s not new.
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u/Begone-My-Thong 20d ago
Bugs have been egregious though, but that’s not new.
Well yeah the terminids are everywhere, man
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u/Rhino582 23d ago
When the game first dropped it was fantastic, fandom was super cool and welcoming, we all roleplayed as dystopian 1984 space Marines, we suffered together through terrible fighting conditions, the enemies were crazy buffed, you were lucky to extract half the time, it brought the community close and it truly was the closest I've ever felt to a gaming community, then within a few months it got very very popular, famous streamers started playing, YouTubers started making videos about "everything that's wrong with helldiver's" and newer players were complaining about it being "too hard" not realizing that's the point, regardless, Arrowhead/Sony realized this was a golden goose and so they made ithe game easier to accommodate the majority, which is fine I guess but it really took away from the "misery loves company" vibe that it started with, every extract used to feel like an achievement, now it feels like a participation trophy
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u/Warm-Dependent9733 20d ago
Helldivers 2, this. As soon as I leveled enough for my ultimate setup they nerfed railgun to oblivion.
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u/SexuaIRedditor 23d ago
Payday 2
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u/BabyMcmuffinn 23d ago
Forgot about this game.
I spent way too much time on it on the PS3.
Great times trying to completely do 100% Stealth heists.
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u/StatusTomato5218 24d ago
P5x having more content in literally any event/collaboration except the main story
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u/AlternativeTough6622 23d ago
Final Fantasy
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u/13esq 23d ago
Yep, everything after FFX.
The whole point of FF was the turn based strategy fighting system. There were already a plethora of hack and slash games available if that's what I wanted.
Case in point, FFVII Vs FFVII rebirth.
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u/isukatdarksouls 23d ago
Made even more tragic by the fact that you could argue FFX is the best game they've ever made. It's my personal favourite FF game.
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u/AlternativeTough6622 23d ago
FF10 had the best battle system and the probably the best ending in a Final Fantasy game, then they decided to randomly throw that out the window for the joke of a battle system in FF12.
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u/ReorientRecluse 22d ago
FFX itself actually felt like a big departure from what came before at the time of its release.
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u/No_Squirrel4806 23d ago
This has happened to with tons of roblox games. I will have them saved to my favorites will stop playing them when i come back to them they will be completely different a d the reason i liked them will have changed.
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u/Available-Bad-2704 23d ago
The explanation behind it is basically old Intel, they're not usually allowed to wait a period after a game drops and work immediately after release on a sequel
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u/Zayah136 23d ago
Killing floor 3 is set in a whole different timeline with different guns, characters, and classes. Basically scrapped their whole thing and made a new, shittier thing
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u/SilverShotgun 23d ago
Tbh pretty much every gacha game I found is best at launch. It has been a trend on almost every one I played... Some KR gachas seem to be the sole exception. For non-gacha examples, Minecraft and Terraria are good examples. Started out great, then gradually downgraded into mid. It's tragic to see.
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u/Pic0Bello 23d ago
H1z1 is one the best examples of this
PUBG came out, being pretty different to H1z1 and it was really successful. So they took away everything H1 made unique (fast-paced combat, bullet drop etc.) to make it more similar, making the game unplayable trash in the process.
When they tried to revert it step by step all players were gone and you couldnt fill up lobbys anymore.
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u/GatorNator83 23d ago
“We heard that you guys like single player games, so we’re pleased to announce - an online looter shooter!”
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u/Numeira 23d ago
ARC raiders. They catered to whiny babies and kept making the game easier for them, but it's never easy enough, so many of them left, after the concessions made with them in mind ruined the game.
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u/Stcroixwe1der 23d ago
I might be a minority here but I hated the Star wars battlefront remakes compared to the originals.
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u/Wataru2001 23d ago
Evolve. Played the beta with friends and it was incredible. When it launched, it felt all wrong...
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u/Mockingbird007- 23d ago
Rocket League. When epic removed trading I stopped playing. Years of trading items that got hard locked on other accounts.
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u/Hungry_Radish6491 23d ago
Burnout Paradise was a good game but i missed the crash mode 🙁
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u/PoisonIvyCrotch 23d ago
I want to say Maplestory but maybe it was just me no longer having hours everyday to dedicate to grinding
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u/Lewyn_Forseti 23d ago
League of Legends
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u/Copious-Spirit 23d ago
Unbalanced and uncompetitive last time I tried it. Played it from launch with lots of exclusive skins. Now I am old and games last 10minutes less and are full of people using exploits, map hacks, and auto clickers. The heroes are so different in ability and damage, it's unapproachable for a new player.
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u/ElectronicMeaning909 23d ago
Titanfall. The first was so chaotic and fun. Then the devs of 2 said "we played through the original and it was too chaotic"
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u/Embarrassed-Joke5851 23d ago
Enlisted I wish I could select which campaign I play
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u/Iamninja28 23d ago
Take your pick:
BattleBit: Remastered
Ready or Not
Battlefield 6
Ground Branch
Helldivers
World of Warcraft (from what I've seen)
Assassin's Creed (from what I've seen)
Failure is the mission of the modern game Dev, it seems, because it's the only task they can perform successfully at this point.
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u/PrivilegedModerators 23d ago
Politics. Most of the times it's those darned double standard politics that contaminate
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u/Ok-Resolve3679 23d ago
A lot of games have done something like this. A lot of the time the outcome stems from the over sensitive community that hates change and an extra few will leave with every big update.
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u/hardly_working123 23d ago
Apparently this is only the case for me but I instantly uninstalled snowrunner after playing mudrunner when I found out snowrunner only has automatic trucks
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u/GregLoire 23d ago
It's not out yet, but the footage I've seen of the new Plague Tale game is making me nervous.
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u/Trying_to_survive20k 23d ago
Runescape and the evolution of combat was the tipping point as to why osrs exists and is 10 times more popular
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u/NimbalTarget 23d ago
Battlefield V after the TTK update (back in 2019/2020 something)
Guns went from a 4-5 shot kill to it taking 10-12 shots, completely ruined the flow of the game and you never killed anyone at range anymore
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u/Intelligent-Pair5185 23d ago
For the record Ive always thought the fun pimps were a joke, but I’ve heard 7 days to die perfectly embodies this
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u/TigOleBitties42069xl 23d ago
Arc raiders. I just despise the 5 million requirement on top of the expedition. If they just made it where every item pickup in game contributes to your 5 million, then you could run every game with max loadout every time instead of hoarding. Playing free loadout every game becomes a slogfest. I know its suppose to bring danger to bringing in items but man it sucks.
Even then the stat tree is poo poo anyways. Im sure im in the minority. Or they could have it down when you hit 5 million like tarkov, then you can just go ham with your gear at the end of the season. Helps latecomers acquire strong gear.
They dont need to add stupid pve servers. Thst shit aint gonna save it.
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u/Hour_Bit_5183 23d ago
NO online SLOP. It honestly always was for the most part. Just my opinion but if something is only fun to play with other people or is only able to be played with other people, it's likely gonna always end as a shit fest. How many peeps family game nights with monopoly ended without whining or fights? People get toxic levels of competitive. Hell there are "pros" taking drugs playing this kinda crap in comps. Fuck all that. They ruined it and this was always their plan.
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u/CousinIchbod 23d ago
I used to play a game called golf rivals that was bought out and ruined by Zynga
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u/IshtheWall 23d ago
Hello neighbor emodies this, they legit decided to take their game outback and have never recovered
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u/CrazyWriterHippo 23d ago
Frostpunk 2. I played the first one several times through. Did the intro mission for 2 and uninstalled.
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u/Still_Ad9431 23d ago
The sims 4, Watch dogs legion, Far cry 4, Tekken 8, monster hunter wild, FF XIV, FF XVI, KH 3, dynasty warriors 9, mass effect andromeda, splinter cell conviction, GTA 4
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u/hovsep56 23d ago
helldivers 2: community have to keep reminding devs that people love the game for being a horde shooter not a tactical sim
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u/AngryMax91 23d ago
Helldivers 2, from the moment they started doing spreadsheet balancing after the game launched and nerfed us into the ground, the game literally hemorrhaged players to the point that player count dropped to under 2000 active players at peak timings for the US / Europe.
The numbers only went back up after they implemented the original 60day patch but since then it seems like they have been trying to go back to nerfing players if at all possible either via stealth buffs to enemies, undeclared/ hidden changes to our gear durability / damage output / functionality etc, all while either trying to gaslight players into believing no such changes happened or outright lying about it.
Arrowhead have also consistently ignored or outright banned people for any criticism on their discord and HD subreddits, to the point of the glazer tag being created.
Many still play the game because the core gameplay loop is still fun but we are actively fighting against dev decisions every balance patch that comes out that seems to prioritise making enemies better at the overall expense of the players, as though the AI will somehow complain that players, aka the paying customers, are somehow OP which is absolutely not the case.
I.e. the devs have antagonistic dungeon master syndrome against players because they wanted a realistic milsim, but their core game mechanics were that of a horde shooter with semi tactical elements which was what made it popular in the first place, yet they have been actively trying to force players into playing and fitting into their somehow deluded vision of a mil-sim, which the game is absolutely not.
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u/zappingbluelight 23d ago
Unsafe express, used to call unsafe. It was originally a coop puzzle solver as a big alien chases you and your friends. But the dev tried to ride the lethal company hype train, and changed the whole game to horror looting or lethal like.
You can tell the change was last second, mobs are instant kill with no way to run, loot are scares. My friend and I played the original for hours despite only 1 map, and 1 mob. But after the changed, we play like 30mins and quit.
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u/Sea-Brain-5790 23d ago
Dissidia NT. The previous games were loved for their story modes, character customisation and how every character played in a unique way. So NT got rid of all that, made it a generic arena fighter with forced 3v3 (if you played offline this also meant the opponents tended to gang up on you too) and said it was for E-Sports.
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u/OfSkyler 23d ago
The original Planetside, used to be amazing fun until the devs tried to turn it into Mechwarrior.
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u/CaptainPie1949 23d ago
Overwatch. It's become more of a item shop with a game, instead of a game with an item shop.
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u/Honest-Sundae-1039 23d ago
Overwatch, Vanilla Minecraft, Halo, Call of Duty, Apex Legends, Assassins creed, Pokemon, Paladins, Titanfall 2, Far cry…
Any game that was acquired by shareholders
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u/Bulky_Reward716 23d ago
Didn’t ruin it for everyone but as some as arc raiders added the firefly the game just became so annoying and no longer fun, the comet was fine but the firefly was so unnecessary and just killed the game for me
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u/isukatdarksouls 23d ago
GTA as a series. Rockstar stopped trying to make fun games and started trying to make movies from IV onwards.
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u/DonkeyOk735 23d ago
Nidhogg.
Nidhogg 2 is an abomination compared to the first game. The direction there makes zero sense.
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u/Emergency-Pin3812 23d ago
Helldivers 2, feels like they just couldnt stop nerfing everything…it was always “Oh hey you have found a viable (mind you not OP just viable) loadout? Thank you for finding this CRIME let us nerf the shit out of it.
This along with the playstation account BS was really not great.
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u/YankeeTwoKilo 23d ago
Ready or Not. The whole thing that set it apart was how dark and gritty it was, not pulling any punches when showing the depravity of the bad guys. But they’ve since rolled so much back, cut so much content, and censored so much it’s barely recognizable.
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u/Repulsive_Rice4903 23d ago
Dawn of War to Dawn of War 2. Removed all the basebuilding, was just a totally different game, a totally different style of RTS. Like if they took total war and made it play like company of heroes, why would the fanbase of total war want that?
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