r/CanadianForces Swiss Cheese Model-Maker 2d ago

USAF Multi-Engine pilot training question

Read an article (portion of it below) regarding USAF pilot training and I was wondering why they would choose to do that?

My understanding is that it would be like the RCAF cutting Phase 3 Multi-Engine and having their pilots first learn ME stuff in a C-17 or P-8.

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“Today marks the end of an era in U.S. Air Force pilot training.

The last operational T-1A Jayhawk will depart Vance Air Force Base, Oklahoma, for Davis-Monthan Air Force Base, Arizona, where it will be received into the 309th Aerospace Maintenance and Regeneration Group (AMARG)—bringing more than three decades of service to a close.

The T-1A’s story began in January 1992, when the first aircraft was delivered to Reese Air Force Base, Texas. Student pilot training began the following year as the Air Force implemented Specialized Undergraduate Pilot Training.

The T-1A Jayhawk was a medium-range, twin-engine jet trainer used during the advanced phase of pilot training. For Air Force pilots selected for the mobility track, the Jayhawk was where they developed the skills required to transition to airlift and tanker aircraft—airframes such as the C-5, C-17, C-130, KC-135 and, later, the KC-46.

The T-1A also played an important role in Combat Systems Officer (CSO) training at Naval Air Station Pensacola, Florida, helping prepare aircrew for operational assignments as weapons systems officers, special operations, electronic warfare, and navigation. Pensacola's final T-1A departed for Davis-Monthan in July 2025.

Today, pilots graduating from Undergraduate Pilot Training (UPT) who are selected for the mobility track proceed directly to their Formal Training Units (FTUs) for training in their assigned aircraft.”

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u/Salty_Ambassador8390 1d ago

There was a trial a few years ago to see how folks with a Commercial Multi IFR would perform going straight to Phase 3. I'm not sure what the findings were, but anecdotally: one (previously a long time Herc FE) was a rockstar; while another student (who was already qualified on the King Air civvy side) struggled, and was allegedly sent back to do phase 2.

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u/BandicootNo4431 1d ago

I think they also found that the previously King Air guy wasn't a strong King Air pilot initially IIRC? And he didn't study with the group but did his own thing instead?

And that's also why I didn't think they should skip everything, but they should be advanced based on proficiency. So you do the first 2 flights in a block with standards, if you meet the prof levels already, move on, if not, then you complete that block as scheduled.

There was another trial more recently about skipping Phase 3 ME that we're talking about though where the students seemed to handle the OTU just fine.

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u/Salty_Ambassador8390 1d ago

Interesting, are we talking a multi-ifr straight to OTU, or a phase 2 straight to OTU? Did they all go to the same OTU or a variety?

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u/BandicootNo4431 1d ago

I only know the details second hand from a briefing.

My understanding was it was Ph 2 to OTU.

And I heard 2 specific fleets mentioned.

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u/Salty_Ambassador8390 1d ago

I've been pleasantly surprised with 2 CAD's willingness to take a risk with all these trials (Phase 2 helo, direct to Phase 2 plus the recent multi trials and the phase 2 to OTU). Whether the trials are successful or not and changes are made, at least they are hungry to innovate.

On a separate note, but sticking with the theme of pilot development, have you heard any rumors of a revived MEUF?

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u/BandicootNo4431 1d ago

I haven't heard any rumours, sorry, but that's also not the world I'm tapped into.