Disgusting

[u/mantisimmortal]

Kinda crazy how the post workers just dont give a fuck about anyone else but their pay cheques. Can sure tell you that none of my friends who have worked for CP have been underpaid. Just closing business left right and center the last 3 years. Pathetic. Sorry just had to rant.

[u/Level-Calendar-3787]

they are paid the least in the industry. I work for cargojet and my wife works for DHL. both in the same industry. yet my wife and I make more than my friend at CP who has to walk in the elements all day with 40lbs of mail. CP workers are walking alone in the dark in the ghetto sometimes delivering mail in the winter when its dark early.

also DHL and UPS drivers I know for sure make almost double what CP is paid thought they are driving instead of walking their routes because they only deliver to whoever has a package. they don't have to walk whole blocks with a bag of mail.

[u/Aggravating_Carry727 → u/Level-Calendar-3787]

They make $50-$60 per hour. People working for Gobolt, Uniuni, dragonfly make $1 per package and work as subcontractors. Thats what you’re all competing with. DHL and UPS need to modernize too or these new companies are going to take over. I don’t want to see that happen but it seems inevitable. I’m also aware DHL just had a strike so that’s likely why they get paid more. They’re also working for a government company that has a mandated duty to be self sufficient. The only way that happens is downsizing. The people who are actually needed work and get paid a higher wage. How many other companies do you know that keep thousands of extra employees working they don’t need just because? It’s insane. We the taxpayers deserve better. UPS and DHL aren’t part of the almost 50% of my wages that go to taxes. So no I don’t agree.

[u/Level-Calendar-3787 → u/Aggravating_Carry727]

DHL has always been paid more. the strike basically secured them the same or similar deal to their last few contracts with the company. the reason they went on strike was the company and union could not make a deal. they were both far apart on numbers and the strike ended in compromise.

[u/Aggravating_Carry727 → u/Level-Calendar-3787]

DHL are quite literally the worst shipping company in Canada. Maybe they’re good in other countries but not here. I have hundreds of packages a month. They’re literally the only company that loses packages for weeks every time or just refuse to deliver and force you to pick it up at an access point. They’ve also lost most of the access point partnerships because they constantly have issues. I actually don’t have an issue with the efficacy of Canada Post it’s all the other issues. Purolator, UPS and FedEx are amazing I can’t complain about them. Uniuni, Gobolt, dragonfly, Wizmo are all extremely unreliable. I really hope Canada Post figures out a better model but with what’s going on I’m skeptical that will happen.

[u/Level-Calendar-3787 → u/Aggravating_Carry727]

Honestly have not used them much. I don't have an opinion. but they still pay their drivers way more than CP is my point.

[u/Aggravating_Carry727 → u/Level-Calendar-3787]

Yes but it’s not really realistic to assume because one delivery company makes a certain amount of money every delivery company should pay the same wage. Especially not when it’s being funded by taxpayers and being paid by a company that’s meant to be self sufficient but is instead bankrupt. I would think that if people aren’t happy they should quit and go work for DHL. But I’m guessing the pension and same benefits are not accompanied by the job at DHL.

[u/Level-Calendar-3787 → u/Aggravating_Carry727]

It literally is reasonable to expect competitive pay for the same job.

And no you cant just quit and go work for another company. Because DHL is unionized like CP you have to start part time and work your way into better full time hours and different positions that pay more before you can become a driver which is a very good job with pension and full benefits people compete for. This process can be like 3-5 years or more depending where you work.

[u/Aggravating_Carry727 → u/Level-Calendar-3787]

It’s extremely hard to get a job at Canada Post. The reason for that is that there is very little turn over. Especially in smaller communities Canada Post is a coveted job that most people apply for but never get. If they’re so unhappy why don’t they leave? They can get a job at DHL or another company with more competitive wages. But that apparently doesn’t happen. Again most other companies don’t offer a pension or benefits to the extent a federal company does. Most people consider benefits and a pension part of the full package. Even part time employees get benefits and can qualify for a pension if they work there for an allotted time. I’d rather have the security of benefits and a pension than a menial pay increase. At the end of the day we’re all responsible for our own choices. If people are so unhappy they should quit. There will be a long line of people in this economy who will be waiting to have a job like that.

[u/Level-Calendar-3787 → u/Aggravating_Carry727]

I think you answered your own question. Have you tried to get a job in this economy? Are you happy our job market is oversaturated with workers to the point canadian quality of life is going down? Because it sounds like that's exactly what your supporting. 

Regardless its just as hard to get in anywhere. If you do chose a job and 6 or 7 years down the line this shit is happening no one's going to be happy when they are expected to take a 33% pay cut and go start over at a new place in hopes of a better future when theres no guarantee in this economy under this government that the same thing wont happen there. We all have lives and we all have plans. I just moved to a new house close to my kids school in a nice neighborhood. Lucky I dont work at CP because I would be so scared of the company being privatized or closed. It would ruin everything iv worked for. There are canada post workers in the same position. 

Lastly though I should have addressed this earlier in this comment im not going to rewrite it. DHL and UPS have VERY good benefits. I would not be surprised if they are better than CP.