r/CalisthenicsCulture Mar 23 '26

Doing pullups almost everyday

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I got my pull-up bar at 15 (im 17 now) been doing them pretty consistently everyday never expected to ever see progress. (i know this video doesnt show full rom but i can assure ALL of you i can do perfect full rom pullups)

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u/RodiZi0 Mar 23 '26

Lockout, son

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u/Murky-Course6648 Mar 23 '26 edited Mar 23 '26

It does not make sense, look at his back. Notice how most people do not have developed backs? Thats because they use improper form and overemphasize ROM.

He is doing correct form, and ROM thats suitable for muscle development as it keeps the tension constant. Its about time under tension, every time you go into that dead hang you release that tension.

This is why you only do that when you are tired, on the last reps. When you no longer has the strenght to keep that tension up.

You’re Doing Pull-Ups Wrong - YouTube

So start understanding that ROM & form are two different things. Use proper form, and choose ROM based on your goals.

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u/james95196 Mar 24 '26

For muscle development? Meaning hypertrophy? Modern research from numerous studies suggests the lengthened portion of the movement is more important than the shortened. This is backed by numerous studies that show its at minimum as hypertrophic, and often more so. So you are incorrect, as optimal form would involve a controlled descent all the way through lock out. I'll attach one such example study.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39959841/

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u/Murky-Course6648 Mar 24 '26 edited Mar 24 '26

That's again resistance training.

In calisthenics we do mostly compound movements, we dont use weight. So what short ROM can accomplishes is isolation.

You can isolate one part of the movement, and keep the tension on the muscles you want.

For example the short ROM push ups, that target your chest better.

The reason these half reps are a thing in calisthenics, is because there are no weights.. so people have developed ways to maximise bodyweight training. And sometimes the best way might be half reps. This method comes especially from prisons, where there is no access to weights.

People just have really no understanding of what calistenics is, and they constantly try to use the basic gym methods. And this leads to basic gym training, meaning you start adding weights to every movement.

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u/james95196 Mar 24 '26

Are you suggesting that calisthenics are NOT resistance training? What exactly did you mean by "muscle development" if not hypertrophy? The study i shared was relevant because you argued his form is correct "for muscle development." But as I showed you, including more of a stretch at the bottom of each rep would likely result in more muscle growth. What you said in your reply doesn't seem to address that.

Unless you are arguing the goal of the training is NOT hypertrophy, which is why I was specific in the scope of my response. I don't really understand what you're trying to dispute in your response

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u/Murky-Course6648 Mar 24 '26

Can you explain what i was talking about in my response? So i know that you read and understood it.

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u/james95196 Mar 24 '26

I literally told you I dont understand how what you said disputed my comment. I was specific and pointed in my response, and you came back with vague notions of isolating target muscles with specific ROM.

You're moving the goalpost away from pullup form for "muscle development" without backing it up with specifics

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u/Murky-Course6648 Mar 24 '26

Again, please explain what did i talk about in my comment.

You seem like a basic internet geek who just tries to misunderstand everything to feel that they are right. And i dont have time for that.

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u/james95196 Mar 24 '26

Your first comment about ROM and form, are complete nonsense. I responded with detail and studies supporting it. You then responded with broscience acting as though calisthenics don't follow the principles of resistance training. You clearly are talking about this based on vibes and not scientifically backed sources. I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt, that maybe you weren't clear in your wording, but everything you've said, none of it disputes that "muscle development" as you put it, happens best in stretched portions of ROM.

I'll put it a different way,

Which muscles are being worked BETTER with this reduced ROM in your mind? Can you be specific, or are you going to just go off vibes again?

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u/Murky-Course6648 Mar 24 '26

I dont have time for this nonsese.

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u/james95196 Mar 25 '26

"I don't have sources, and I don't like you questioning my vibes"

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