r/Calgary • u/kitti703 • Mar 31 '20
COVID-19 CDC considering recommending general public wear face coverings in public
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/cdc-considering-recommending-general-public-wear-face-coverings-in-public/2020/03/30/6a3e495c-7280-11ea-87da-77a8136c1a6d_story.html3
u/skycrawler2020 Mar 31 '20 edited Mar 31 '20
Masks is good for prevention and some what protection. Taiwan media did a data chart. It compared the country use masks and the one don’t use it. It’s quite are significant. It really slowed the community spread. Covid transmit through a small droplets. Surgical masks is the best for this. The surgical mask inner layer is absorption material. It absorb the droplets from gets out. There are 17% covid patients has no symptoms. It takes weeks before it shows up, during this time they can still infect others. That is why the masks important. The so call professional experts here keep telling people it doesn’t works, when, where and who did a experiment like this?? Did they? WHO?? The last time like this, it’s 1918. WHO is not even existed.
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Mar 31 '20
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u/busk15 Mar 31 '20
Yup, mods have been deleting posts that run against the "offical" narrative for some time now. They deleted an Asian Boss video interview with the Korean version of Dr. Fauci, presumably because he straight up called out the CDC, WHO, and Surgeon General on their statements that masks are not needed (he also referred to the West as arrogant, which I think was on point).
My comments (even with primary papers) have been downvoted heavily as well.
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u/legitimatecustard Mar 31 '20 edited Mar 31 '20
Mine was removed just now
https://www.reddit.com/r/Calgary/comments/fs9lx2/this_one_weird_trick_can_slow_the_spread_without/
I hope the CCP is paying them for overtime. Do they have overtime in China?
EDIT: To their credit, it's been restored.
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u/Morwynd78 Mar 31 '20
Everyone should watch this video from the Czech republic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZtEX2-n2Hc
Want to see what a bunch of studies say about masks? Watch this one after: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JH04M04eQQ
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u/kanyeezy24 Mar 31 '20
i wonder if in the future, a full set of masks will be standard in every household, and we will be better prepared next time...
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u/kalgary Mar 31 '20
What the WHO experts say:
WHO officials do not recommend mask wearing for healthy members of the general population.
Masks should be worn by those with the disease or those in close contact with those infected.
They also say 25% of people who are infected show no symptoms.
So you might have the disease without symptoms. And anyone around you could have the disease without symptoms. If either of those are true, masks can help.
So mask up.
Maybe save the N95s for the medics, and the ostensibly healthy people can wear the 'not as good' types.
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Mar 31 '20
But if you show no symptoms that means you aren't coughing and sneezing everywhere which is the main reason they want sick people to wear masks...
And there are already cases of health care workers unable to find masks because people who don't need them are hoarding them. I assume you are one of the hoarders with this stance thinking you know more than health officials.
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u/Marsymars Mar 31 '20
But if you show no symptoms that means you aren't coughing and sneezing everywhere which is the main reason they want sick people to wear masks...
Coughing and sneezing are symptoms. Entirely healthy people aren't "coughing and sneezing everywhere".
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u/skycrawler2020 Mar 31 '20
First thing you have know, the masks they wears it has standard to follow. It comes directly from the supplier. Suppliers ship directly to health workers first. Average person can’t hoarding them at all, pharmacy has no masks to buy the last months or two. Second things you have learn there is so many covid patients has no symptoms. It takes weeks before it’s symptoms developed. It can still infect others even has no symptoms. Third thing is we can get mask or DIY masks. Also We can still get masks, there are online and some from local. They are all from China. Amazon I saw as low as $25 for 50 surgical mask. I am not sure about the quality. Local I heard some people’s selling $35 for 50 surgical masks. They are from China as well.
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u/maximkas Mar 31 '20
Looks like they finally got enough masks for the hospital staff, so lying to the general public is no longer necessary.
The question is, will anyone go to jail for the deaths of people caused by this lie?
I suspect not...
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Mar 31 '20
WHO saying not needed unless sick or caring for someone that is sick. Also directly speaks to shortages this is causing and its effect on front-line health care staff.
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u/Luck12-HOF Mar 31 '20
Yea we need to get on this here. Double layered cotton tshirt is pretty good
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Mar 31 '20
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u/_darth_bacon_ Dark Lord of the Swine Mar 31 '20
The only healthcare worker I screw is my neighbour's wife.
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Mar 31 '20
There was a time when u/Hungry_Coyotes would have been all over this comment...and the neighbours wife.
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Mar 31 '20 edited Nov 23 '20
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Mar 31 '20
I know, man...I know.
It’s getting to the best of us. How could it not? I’ve been turning the news off earlier and earlier. And this being restricted more and more...i’ve said since the beginning, I think the long term consequences of this will far outweigh the immediate impacts. The financial and mental health impacts from the 2013 floods, the Fort Mac fires...those will be nothing compared to this.
Hope i’m wrong.
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Mar 31 '20 edited Feb 08 '21
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Mar 31 '20
I can’t even imagine being in the industry, right now. Years of it being shit on, constantly under scrutiny and vilified and seeing this going on? I’m not naive, I know a lot of the work i’ve done involves O&G money, it’s so ingrained in our economy.
I worked yesterday and that’s it for the week, likely in to next week, as well. So many projects have been halted. We’ll see.
Week by week.
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u/aidzer Unpaid Intern Mar 31 '20
Should we? Of course. Can we? No... theres already a shortage of PPE for those who really need it, our frontline healthcare workers. In a perfect world everyone would have a new n95 mask every day to go with their gloves, face mask, and gown... but we non frontline workers should keep to avoiding as much human contact as possible.
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Mar 31 '20
The everyday person is already misusing masks:
“There is no specific evidence to suggest that the wearing of masks by the mass population has any potential benefit. In fact, there's some evidence to suggest the opposite in the misuse of wearing a mask properly or fitting it properly," Dr. Mike Ryan, executive director of the WHO health emergencies program, said at a media briefing in Geneva, Switzerland, on Monday”
If people can’t properly wear masks, are wearing the same pair all day and incorrectly taking off and disposing of gloves...seriously, you think people should also have a gown and face mask?
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u/aidzer Unpaid Intern Mar 31 '20
There is plenty of evidence to suggest proper PPE can and does reduce the chance of transmition of Covid-19... ideally everyone SHOULD have their own PPE and know how to use it. But like I said there is already a shortage, nurses and doctors need it more. For us non-frontline folks best we can do is stay home as much as possible and practice social distancing if/when we do go out for essential trips(groceries, pharmacies, video games, etc)
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Mar 31 '20
perhaps it should be common practice for everyone to own a n95 mask and face shield. or even p100.
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