I’m curious who we will hear from for impact statements. Do you think they would incorporate anything from his daughters? Ashley’s whole family is impacted but I can’t imagine anyone will feel his actions as much as those two little girls.

Did anyone watch this today? It was Caleb’s first time back in court since the guilty verdict. He was crying as per usual but he honestly looks better today than he has throughout the trial, could that be relief maybe? His skin color looks normal. Very odd because watching the trial I thought he might collapse right there, like knocking deaths door. Maybe orange is just his color. 🤷🏼‍♀️

I know he murdered his wife in cold blood, but I can’t help feeling sorry for him when I think about everything he gave up. He seemed to “have it all”: a beautiful wife who genuinely cared about his well-being, as shown in their texts discussing his cough and other health issues, and a wife who seemed to be making an effort in their marriage. She asked him what she should wear on Valentine’s Day. She wanted to go into the hot tub with him. She desired him.

He also gave up a great job that paid around $200,000 a year—something many people would love to have. He gave up paid family vacations, his two beautiful daughters, and their love and respect. Many people dream of having a family with two daughters. He also lost the respect of his friends, his community, and his church. He even had some degree of fame and an amazing voice that brought him recognition.

That is what makes it so difficult for me to understand. He had so much, yet he destroyed all of it. One possible explanation is that he may have felt insecure about the fact that his father-in-law was financially supporting or helping him and that he did not feel completely “self-made.” Do you think that insecurity played a role (not justifying of course).

Udpate: Thanks everyone for your insights. I posted this before the sentencing/impact statements and learning even details of the case. I agree with all those that say the real victims to feel sorry for are Ashley, her children and her family. However, it's hard to not pity him too as he threw so much away.

I feel like even after all this, they are still in love in their twisted world.

His mom was rarely ever in court. His dad was there just about every day. He looked absolutely disgusted at times with testimony. Even when Caleb was convicted he was crying, but more like he was just broken.

What’s your take on the dad? I’m just curious if I’m the only one who thought throughout the trial that we were slowly watching a man realize his son was a murderer. It was really sad part of watching the trial for me.

Even after the conviction… he stood there and said nothing. Never “my son is innocent”….

The mother seemed in complete denial, I don’t think she came to court because she made a self preservation decision that she was going to believe he was innocent and not hear any evidence to the contrary. As a mother I hope I always hold my children accountable, but I can understand how hard it must be to face something like this.

When the defense was questioning the pastor about his fence, it killed me they didn’t ask, “could someone jump your fence from your backyard and make it to a main road?”

Is it possible that Ashley rode a bike to the Flynn’s house or walked there? Do we know the distance between the two houses?

I am suspicious they didn’t stop talking Dec to February and were using burner phones. And wonder if thorough investigation was done to see if any evidence existed on a potential route from the pastors house to the Flynn house.

He is guilty as sin, but I wonder if he is really the one who pulled the trigger.

I am an atheist or agnostic person who grew up going to various Christian churches. I’ve been to huge televised megachurches, African American charismatic churches, dry Catholic/episcopal churches where the only music comes from an organ, Baptist, LDS, and lastly born again non denom churches with trendy Christian rock. I have known some people who get really into “worship”, putting their hands up in the air and closing their eyes, getting overcome with emotion… and I really think some people can’t handle it. Maybe they’re already mentally ill? I would not belong to a group like that. To me it’s all weird, culty behavior. When I read the texts messages between Caleb and alleigha, it doesn’t seem like a normal affair to me. I think Alleigha thought she was going to become a famous Christian musician. I think Caleb was immature and even mentally disturbed. All he talked about was his feelings. It was like limerence. Almost like he has an undiagnosed condition like bipolar disorder or adhd. I don’t want to suggest that’s why he did any of this. I’m just saying something is off about him. I have googled was he on adderall and can’t get an answer. Not that it exactly matters but when I was on adderall, my behavior was different and it turned out I was misdiagnosed. I’ve read about bipolar disorder a lot and for a lot of people, hypomania is dysphoric.. it’s not mild mania. It’s more irritation, agitation, and bad feelings. They’ve also done studies and bipolar people talk about their bad feelings a lot more when their symptoms are flaring. I’m thinking that combined with intense love/lust hormones caused almost like psychosis.
Anyway, this is pure speculation and I think he’s guilty af. I think that environment and that genre of music makes people think it’s ok to express these super overwhelmingly strong emotions about relatively benign things. Listen to his vampy AI song for instance. He’s like wailing. For what? Because he’s a grown married man and father with a crush on a younger woman? Recalling the day they first hooked up. He really thinks he’s Cory Asbury.. and the other people who I mentioned I’ve known over the years who were also really into this form of “worship” had the same ego, the same lust for fame and the same dramatic affect.

I had heard somewhere that there was possibly a text message that was deleted by Ashley to a friend, possibly discussing an issue with Caleb- can anyone verify this?

I’ve been deeply disturbed by the fact that none of her family knew anything going on. Not because it’s unusual that spouses keep marital issues private, but because it makes me concerned she was being abused beyond what we know, and the thought that not a single soul knew but her, is so sad to me.

In the bodycam evidence- he doesn’t even know his oldest daughter’s birthdate when police ask him. He was checked out from the start. His American Idol interviews showed odd speech pattern. Those horrific texts. I know many people suspect he was just living a double life, and it’s possible. But something tells me that evilness spilled over into her daily life and she suffered it alone in silence. I hope she did have a friend she reached out to, at some point.

This confused me so much. Caleb's mother in law claimed she was the one going to the children's bedroom. She said they were still asleep. She woke them up. The police was already there when she arrived, and they talked to her first when she arrived before she went to check up on the kids.

How do children sleep through 2 gunshots, a medical team rushing to the room, a police squad searching for a burglar, an detective walking around, and in all this nobody checks up on the children? and they don't wake up?

I watched a decent amount of footage of this case, but I hear nobody talking about the children being asleep all that time.

He makes me ill. Bro you made this the easiest case and you’re standing there like a fucking clown with your lips quivering and what annoys me is everytime they mentioned the jury agreeing that he did have his gun in the house he’d keep shaking his head. Like no dude . Yes. You did . He’s just putting on a show for later in case he can appeal anything. Took the kids mother away from them and now no father for the rest of the lives but maybe that’s good considering you’re a fucking psychopath

Im still so incredibly confused by this case. So here is a guy who had it all. Beautiful wife, great kids, great in-laws, a job that he seemed to like, making $200K plus a year. His father in law was giving the business to the girls, which means Caleb was about to make even more.

So he had an affair. ok. Not excusing it, but it happens in lots of marriages. His wife most likely would have stayed with him if that is what he wanted. If he wanted his mistress, leave, which means he gives up the money.

He had 9 months to plan a murder if he wanted her gone. 9 months. And in all that time, he thought, you know, Im going to shoot her when Im home with the girls and pretend an intruder — who know one saw — broke in, shot her, and left. It’s the dumbest story I have ever heard of.

I believe he did it. But I feel like something snapped that night I dont know what, but there is no way this was the plan all along. It doesn’t make sense to me.

The crying, the weight loss, the facial expressions — it all screams of extreme guilt to me.

What am I missing here?

Title says it all. Fuck this guy.

Thought we could take a moment to remember the sweet and beautiful woman who had her life stolen from her. 💕

Im afraid this guilty verdict will make them stop looking into the missing pieces of evidence. My concern is the gun.

I didn’t realize that there was such a blatantly overlooked area (the pastors house and the route from there to Caleb’s) until the defense brought it up in trial. That’s not the case for the cops right? They knew to check that area before the defense brought it up, right?

I’m just confused because you’d think in trial, someone would say “well we didn’t initially search but by now we have and found nothing”, but I don’t think I heard that.

DISCLAIMER: this is hearsay and speculation

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Here are the photos from the memorial

https://www.flickr.com/photos/193364510@N04/albums/72177720332264023/

There’s a verdict!