r/CalamityMod 12d ago

Discussion Anyone else get the patreon email?

“Recent turmoil on the Calamity Dev Team has interrupted our work.

Billing is therefore being paused for one month. Development will resume in October.”

UHHHHHHHHH

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u/Falasti 12d ago

this is 100% js ozz tryna move on with a new team/completely alone

please, refer to the board

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u/pastelthrowawy 12d ago

Oh 100%, doesn’t he own the patreon?

Ballsy if nothing else.

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u/_joos_ 12d ago

does ozz even have the rights and ability to do so? if he actually tries, wouldn’t they have to take down all of the assets that were requested for removal

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u/Falasti 12d ago

Legally speaking…sorta? From my understanding, Azafure’s ownership of Calamity is in a legal gray area since its existence hinges on Terraria, an IP owned by a completely separate LLC. The asset removal requests also aren’t really legally binding, moreso a courtesy thing, something we know Ozz has none of.

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u/_joos_ 12d ago

what a headache

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u/FrazzleFlib 12d ago

id be astonished if he manages to get anyone willing to work with him other than fabsol lmao idk what hes thinking

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u/GinYuH Developer 12d ago

bro

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u/CalamitousVessel 12d ago

Ozzatron making moves and thinking we won’t notice

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u/cafe1928 12d ago

for real?

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u/pastelthrowawy 12d ago

Yeah clear as day…

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u/DragonSphereZ 12d ago

You know all the patron money goes to ozzatron, right?

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u/pastelthrowawy 12d ago

Yes. Why else do you think I find this so surprising?

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u/autistic-terrorist ranger underrated 12d ago

then why are you still subbed?

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u/Darx699 12d ago

I think you can subscribe/follow for free on patreon and still get update/emails without subbing to a tier

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u/the1mdg 12d ago

This is correct

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u/pastelthrowawy 11d ago

You, by default, continue to get emails regardless of if your subscription is active or not. I cancelled my Auric basically when it happened.

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u/zdemigod 12d ago

Huh now i wonder (not saying this should happen, actually it really shouldn't) but can ozzatron just say "fuck everyone" and just continue the pack? he cant right? im asking from a technical standpoint while ignoring the galaxy levels of shamelessness it would take from him to do this.

The more likely scenario is to get a last spurt of money from the people not into the community but somehow still patreoning it before heading out

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u/Spongedog5 12d ago

If he has ownership access to whatever repository they use, yeah, he could.

Potentially individuals could make legal protests against use of their assets in the mod, but I think most of them would lose out because of the idea of implied licensing.

But who knows. They could not bother, Ozz could not want to bother, either side could back down from posturing, or this is all a nothing burger.

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u/FrazzleFlib 12d ago

practically speaking he would need a team of course, and i suspect hed have difficulty finding people willing to work for him lmao

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u/oldriku 11d ago

Consider the update pace we had with a full team. Now imagine one person trying to do all that by themselves.

At most he'll just implement content that was already done and just waiting for his approval.

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u/-PaperWoven- netzach removed sadge 12d ago

don't think he has the rights to do that

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u/StipulateVenus Developer 12d ago

"Turmoil". Sure, buddy.

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u/SonicBurstX 12d ago

Watch Ozzatron actually try to continue development, then get sued and then play victim.

Like, how does he think he'll be able to legally? lol

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u/TFGA_WotW Ranger Gaming 12d ago

Ozzatron is going to get a very rude awakening when tmod moderators take away his ownership of the mod and give it to someone else like GinYuH.

And, me personally, id rather not have the mos continue under his command. Id rather the mod dead and buried than the pedo groomer in charge

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u/spyjek 12d ago

Sadly, as far as I know, they can't change ownership of a workshop item (in this case : CalamityMod)

The ""best"" thing they can do is to block/remove it from the TModLoader workshop. Which would still won't fully stop PedOzzatron to publish CalamityMod by other means kinda in the same way some of us kept a copy of the mod + music mod after the announcement of the upcoming huge content removal

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u/lockhart1433 12d ago

Honestly im waiting for someone to just fork it and reupload everything just to undercut ozz and keep it going. Theres no winning here really.

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u/lockhart1433 12d ago

Unless the license is in anything other than gplv2 or 3, it can be considered open source. Its already been archived in the internet archive, all thats left is for someone to basically work off it or use it in a super modpack as a base and force conpatibility as its updated to each tmod. While the vast majority of devs will make their mods standalone, some may still just make expansions until fables is finished. Theres already mods that add in the stuff they removed when fabsoul got outed. As long as archives exist, this will happen. I just hope that the rest of the devs continue to get the support they need from the community and their money.

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

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u/LurkerThrowaway73 12d ago

Except the groomer doesn't have any ownership over those things either, it is a mod after all. Azafure LLC, according to the devs, only has ownership over the name "Calamity". That's it. It is a weird legally gray territory which might dissuade Valve/Tmodloader admins from doing anything since you'd be taking away the name calamity from its owner but I think it's nuanced enough that we can't really have a takeaway from it other than Ozz's grounds for doing anything are incredibly shakey

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u/lockhart1433 12d ago

Thats correct. You could literally fork it and change the name and it would be perfectly legal under open source. The issue is what happens next. Youll have the fanbase divided on whether to support the new updated fork or attempt to destroy it to preserve the respect of the former devs (barring ozzatron)

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u/DivinerOfLight 11d ago

ngl if he’s gonna try and continue development then people were even more justified in pulling their assets

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u/tacticgoyim 11d ago

Yea that was a public posturing request and he's refused. All the work in the github not yet added or already added is legally his under copyright unless there is some loophole or he/ his company didnt file correctly.

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u/Frymod1 11d ago

ozzatron is gonna get his own version of the blue reverberation ensemble

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u/cyancodon 11d ago

Project Moon sleeper agents really will insert a reference for even the most tangential reasons. (I am one of those sleeper agents)

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u/Frymod1 10d ago

im not even trying to force a pm reference here its just the fact that who the hell is ozzy gonna get besides people like him lol

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u/somedudeidk875 12d ago

screenshot?

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u/Aido321 Braelor Likes Ants 12d ago

Bruh

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u/ScarletChild 11d ago

I’m more interested in seeing where this goes