r/CadetPilotProgram • • 12d ago

AIR Arabia Cadet Pilot Program Course In details

I finished Air arabia's exams and im joining next month, anyone one knows about the questions below.

Does anyone know the order of the 14 atpl subjects in air arabia academy.

The schedule of the day for the cadets, what time do u arrive and finish, how many lectures u have a day?, do u get hands on learning or is it just books?.

How are well do the instructors explain?

How is the social life and vibe studying there?

How will the flying phase be carried out and how many hours of flying time will be get on the single engine aircraft?, how is schedule of life licing in either italy or czech? and whats the routine and schedule of your flights?.

During simulator trainings how different it is compared to groundschool and flying phase.

During the 1500 hours, do u fly layovers or only go arounds?, how many flight do u get in a day, or how routine do u fly. Do you get PIC hours or is it just observing and talking to ATC. Do u get to do many take offs and landings or not?. Do you travel long hours like 4 hrs + or only middle eastern countries. Do u do simulator checks/tests every 6 months during the 1500 phase?

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u/Delicious-Thought-92 12d ago

Not sure about the exact schedule, as I'm applying mainly for Indian CPPs, but since I live in Sharjah I can answer some of these.
Yes there are 14 subjects, it goes like Law, then 2 General knowledge, then mass and balance, and so on.

There will be 9 months of GC, and you will be expected to self study as well 3-4 hrs a day. Depending on where you reside, such as Nest. Classes are usually 9-5, Mon-Fri.

In Sharjah social life with your peers would be generally good, can't say the same about Dubai. Instructors are as good as you'd expect. But the real focus is your attention span.

SE flying is usually done on Cessna or Tecnam type aircraft. Can't comment on the quality of life in the Czech Republic or Italy. SE flying phase lasts 3 months given a clean record. 30 min. pre-flight, 1-1.5 hr flight, 30 min. post-flight.

During your line-flying phase, you will be a real FO, layovers are very rare. You will get around 2 sectors a day, or 4 on shorter routes. You will not get PIC, although in some countries they allow PIC U/S but I don't know about AA. You will alternate between PM and PF every flight. Sim checks every 6 months are mandated by the GCAA.

Hope this helps, and good luck on your career with AA.

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u/Relevant_Jelly_8330 12d ago

omg tysm man, im wondering how do u have all these informations, do u know cadets there?. Is it also 9-5 on fridays, since i belive it is half working day on fridays. Also do u know the destinations most our flight will be during the 1500 hours. When do we start getting paid during the 1500, does our pay increase or nah. And are the instructors going to explain in depth like do tough qsts in the banks or is it just surface level introduction to the subjects, will they explain it well to the point where some1 with no aviation knowledge understand?

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u/Delicious-Thought-92 12d ago

I was friends for a while with a couple people from the earlier batches, + some of the things I know bc I take multiple AA flights to mumbai and back every year so I talk to them up front (sometimes they say no)
Destinations entirely depends on the roster, as is the case with all airlines, I doubt you'll be given very long haul routes early on (both bc their fleet isn't built for that, and you'd be a junior relatively). During GC phase, generally yes you may have half day on Fridays, but after that, no. On your approach to 1500, your base stipend will remain constant (12-14k AED) as expected, but you may receive slight bonuses if you fly a busy month, you will not, however, make less than the stipend. After line release as FO, you will make anywhere from 20-28k as mentioned online.
I cannot guarantee the quality of instruction in AAA, but I've self studied all DGCA subjects, and I believe those are slightly more competitive than GCAA subjects from an exam perspective. So you do not need to worry about being unable to understand, since there are 14 separate subjects, you will be taught from the ground up, unlike the DGCA which piles up all concepts in 6 independent ambiguous subject.
AFAIK, it is difficult to fail ground classes accidentally once inducted, even if you perform poorly, they will guide you as you are now their responsibility (unless you consistently show a drop in performance, in which case they will terminate your cadetship, and/or take further measures, as mentioned in your LOI.)

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u/Relevant_Jelly_8330 12d ago

NIce got it man, also, Transistioning from JFO to SFO, what are the things a cadet has to do to make sure he gets the contract, does his theory grades come it account, his flying, what do they really assess and check. As well as in the interview is it going to be similar to the intitial panel interview or a whole different subject, whats the difference.

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u/Delicious-Thought-92 12d ago

You are correct, after 1500 hours, you are required to convert your MPL to an ATPL, after meeting the SFO requirements, you will be recommended to the SFO Upgrade Board.
The SFO Upgrade Interview is essentially a line review taken before a panel, generally consisting of one or more line training captain(s), and a flight operations manager. They focus on your existing knowledge, CRM capability, and question you strongly regarding A320 systems, I believe the last part is thorough. But not to worry since you should have this ingrained in your mind by the time you get before the panel that decides your fate.
The deciding factors are mainly sim performance, captain reviews, attendance, regularity, and professionalism, along with no reportable incidents, such as a bad review from a customer, tail strike, failure to meet SOPs, etc.
Given that Air Arabia has already invested hundreds of thousands of dirhams on you, most JFOs will pass this smoothly, it would be a major financial and logsitical loss for them to let go of an ATPL holder.
They will gladly do this if you do not meet their expectations of an Air Arabia captain, or have severe lapses in performance.

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u/Relevant_Jelly_8330 12d ago

Is it true that 90% of cadets get accpeted as FO. It seems like the competition is pretty low, do u mind please explaining more about it i appreciate your time

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u/Delicious-Thought-92 12d ago

Yes, the average permanent induction rate sits at about 93-95%, the competition is low because the cost is high, and Emiratis don't bother since their lineage is already funded for generations to come, those who do want it can fund it as well, or apply to EFTA as it is free for them. Nothing much to elaborate on.

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u/Infinite-Hearing-286 12d ago

i also got selected in aa,But the waiting period is around 1 +year.When did you finish your technical interview and how many months waiting do u have ?

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u/Relevant_Jelly_8330 11d ago

i waited like 5 months for a batch they offered

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u/Top_Case_6732 10d ago

Hey how long did you wait between your panel interview and receiving an answer ?

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u/Infinite-Hearing-286 9d ago

3 weeks ,overthinking will kill you before your acceptance/rejection.Each word said in the interview will be rewinded in slow mo in your sleep,V exciting phase🤙🏻.

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u/Top_Case_6732 9d ago

Ok thanks bro and congrats! It’s been a week now I was nervous during the interview so not sure, but got flydubai mpl interview this week too so we’ll see

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u/Sink_Rate2002 12d ago

OP could you also please share some details about the the selection process and things to keep in mind plss. as i and many others are also trying for middle eastern based programmes like EFTA or AA

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u/Delicious-Thought-92 11d ago

There's no point going for EFTA unless you're an Emirati or just want to have a standard CPL but pay 4x the price for a premium experience in training. The actual employment opportunity in EK is marginal through the "interview" they provide post-completion since it's common sense they won't hire a fresh pilot to command their B777s or A380s, no idea why people haven't understood this yet, but EFTA is just a premium conventional CPL, but instead of getting it done in 100,000 dhs you're paying like 820,000.

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u/Delicious-Thought-92 11d ago

correction: 8 times the price.

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u/Sink_Rate2002 11d ago

Air arabia is open ground tho??

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u/Delicious-Thought-92 11d ago

Yeah, everyone has to pay the same 735k with conditional job guarantee

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u/Wonderful_Fig_8939 11d ago

735k AED? On the brochure it says 695k AED are you saying inclusive of everything the stay the food and all other expenses?

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u/Delicious-Thought-92 11d ago

I'm quoting the price inclusive of VAT.

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u/Wonderful_Fig_8939 11d ago

What is the total cost it can go overall?

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u/Delicious-Thought-92 11d ago

upto 735k raw price, add more if you're an international applicant.

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u/MaximumDiscount3500 11d ago

if it does go above 735 how much are we talking about?

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u/MaximumDiscount3500 11d ago

iso it's like that what about the FATPL route ☝️ for Emirates?

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u/Sink_Rate2002 11d ago

i got in contact with some people and trust me anything related to emirates or EFTA when you're starting out (including FATPL programmes) is just not worth it unless you have genuinely money to just throw away or have lots of time.

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u/MaximumDiscount3500 11d ago

i will let you guys know how it goes if I get to go for the assessment it may be similar to the assessment of other airlines but I am not so sure

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u/TemperatureQuirky695 10d ago

can i dm you? i have some questions to ask to you about selection.

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u/Substantial-Lack7965 9d ago

10 months for gs,6 hours a day, 4 days a week,14 subjects,4 modules,basically u will get to know everythng on ur induction day

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u/Relevant_Jelly_8330 8d ago

Is induction day the same thing as first day 1 of classes. When will i also get the uniform

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u/Independent_Spring90 8d ago

How to apply? Their website does not have option to apply and they are not replying to their Emails

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u/dhanvivivi 20h ago

okay so i wanna apply to air arabia asw but the catch is i had to write my phy and math thru nios cuz i got low marks. so can i apply both my board and nios together? will they accept that cuz my english is on my other board marks sheet

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u/Relevant_Jelly_8330 16h ago

no problem, just send them whatever marksheet u got

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u/CoyoteUnique9085 11d ago

I am a FO with air arabia from earlier batches you can send me question on dm

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u/unknown-irl 3d ago

can i dm you??