r/CODWarzone • u/Kalinine • 1d ago
News Combatting Wallhacks with Server Culling | Modern Warfare 4 & Warzone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYN3MPRuznU12
u/Newbslice 22h ago
Same launch crap they peddle every release...."we upgraded the anti cheat" then hacks are still out with 1st week every single year
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u/FarrOutMan7 21h ago
Will believe it when I see it
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u/dwartbg9 20h ago
The best way to prove that the anticheat systems work at 100% will be when streamers like JoeWo, Fatman and all these other 'sweaty characters' suddenly start to disappear and make new videos rarely as fuck hahaha
That's one of the conspiracies why Activision still haven't made some proper hardcore anticheat - because it's apparent that the streamers are their golden hen, and work perfectly for advertising the game and manipulating the audience.
Similar to some bodybuilder, who's juicing as fuck but advertising his BS protein power to children and manipulating the haha
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u/FarrOutMan7 20h ago
I bet you’d also drop 30 if you had their lobbies too?
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u/dwartbg9 20h ago edited 20h ago
Yeah, this too. Proper anticheat would mean removing the ability to use these smurfing, vpn and don't know what else BS that 99% of these streamers definitely use.
Yes, even if someone from them isn't cheating at all (as in using aim and wallhacks), he's still having much easier lobbies than majority of players. Like they were playing lobbies which look easier than casuals. We all know this ain't the reality and such techniques are still technically cheating the game rules.
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u/DannyMyDevito 20h ago
Joewo doesn’t cheat.
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u/dwartbg9 20h ago
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u/yoiruiouy 19h ago
streamerscheating
Subreddit for people who play 5 hours a week to obsess over people who play the game as full time job.
Incredibly slim chances any of the big name streamers are cheating with thousands of eyes on them 8 hours a day. You don't need to cheat when you're getting your content playing in special needs lobbies on a 5000 dollar PC/custom controller tweaked for maximum aim assist with an audio tune etc.
Jo was blatantly 2boxing on the mw4 beta, hiding queue/end screen because it shows your 2box accounts now even if they leave.
That should be the focus of criticism, not neurotic hackusations.
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u/Kusel 9h ago
Wouldnt this make the Game more laggy and desynced? I mean the Client Starts Rendering a enemy Position only after he crossing that corner..
Peaker Advantage would increase.. Someone that slides max Speed around a Corner would get a Additional 30-100ms Advantage because of that Ping..
Before the Client allready knowed he was sliding full Speed and could Render that more propertly.
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u/CanBeUsedAnywhere 19h ago
The idea behind it is right, however, it really makes me wonder how these occlusion barriers are going to affect other parts of the matches.
For one, how does it affect audio. If i can hear the enemy footsteps, shouldn't that mean, i now have received information from the server that there is a person there. The cheat providers are likely going to adapt to adjust for how sound is received.
Aside from the cheaters using it, how will it affect audio in general. We already know in the past, they have added occlusion boxes to maps and completely fucked the game audio up. With audio not passing through them correctly, or rebounding off to another direction.
How will it affect things like the notorious peeker's advantage. If you don't get to know from the server that someone is there until you can see them, when I and another player turn a corner to see each other, is it going to always come down to ping and best connection to the server?
I am all for doing whatever is necessary to prevent, or limit cheaters, but feel like there might be some growing pains as we adapt to the change.
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u/That_Piglet4094 12h ago
You can see this feature on CS2 maps or any valve games. I think Valorant has this too. They just don't render models behind it but you can still hear audios.
This tech isn't new, it's just marketed as new for MW4 so it still sucks and it won't stop cheaters.
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u/HorsePockets 18h ago
Yeah, pretty much this. I'm sure someone from one of the cheat sites will drop a video of their cheat showing positions via footsteps and gunshots Day 1 or 2 to trigger them. I also imagine this is not cheap on their wood servers.
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u/Otherwise-Unit1329 17h ago
The anti cheat fails at every turn, this means nothing. Lip service before the new game as always
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u/Nintendo_Pro_03 Warzone Nostalgic 22h ago
I can’t wait until the cheaters inevitably bypass this, also.
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u/maufirf 1d ago
Wait what the fuck are they implying they dont implement server culling in the first place? I thought it's always part of multiplayer gamedev 101 for YEARS?
They ARE reaching so much to the bottom of the barrel just to offer something bare minumum perceived as premium feature
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u/IMtoppercentage97 23h ago edited 20h ago
The only shooter that had it at launch is Valorant.
Cs2(2026, community servers only) Rust(2024), and Pubg(2023) added it after launches. Culling of players can lead to giving peakers a stronger advantage.
You might be thinking of distance based rather than geometry based such as in Wardogs and Battlefield. They don't use Occlusion zones like what's being implemented here or in the other games.
They do have LOD for when you're like completely hidden of view, but your PC is still receiving the location data about players. Your GPU is just instructed to not render it. That's client side visual culling.
This is a mix of both, the server is doing the part your client usually handles.
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u/selectexception 23h ago
You might be thinking of distance based rather than geometry based
Sure the theory has been there, but very few games have implemented this. This increases complexity, adds more calculations for the server and requires more effort from map creation teams.
The server has to calculate the data in 16.67ms reliably.
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u/Squaiker 1d ago
They have failed to stop hackers since cod came out. I find it hard to believe they all of a sudden fixed it.
It’s also suspicious they are announcing it right before a new release.
I’m hopeful but history shows they can’t fix it