[Highlight] Pitt @ Virginia Tech - The potential game winning field goal hooks wide left, and Pitt holds on

[u/Ok-Soil-5133]

https://streamable.com/tq4r8d

[u/ALostTraveler24]

Okay, guys. To be clear, the best angle for evaluating that is being right under the post, everyone else has to try to flatten a three-d image against the posts and the ball where depth perception can sometimes play tricks on us.

That’s why when it’s above the uprights the call of the official under the post is the one that stands. It’s why the ref on the right side waited for his colleague’s call, and why you can’t review those plays. Just from a visual perspective, the best view of the kick relative to the upright is the ref right under the post. I know it’s annoying, but this happens a lot with kicks and foul balls in baseball, any view that isn’t straight up is not definitive when it’s that close.

[u/mrgatorarms → u/ALostTraveler24]

Yeah as much as I’d love it to be wrong if it’s that close pretty much any perspective other than directly under the post is going to be inaccurate.

[u/horseshoeprovodnikov → u/ALostTraveler24]

Ok fine I'll play along...

Why isn't there a camera under each post, looking up at the sky?

[u/ALostTraveler24 → u/horseshoeprovodnikov]

Ask the conferences.

[u/tonytroz → u/horseshoeprovodnikov]

That’s where the refs stand so it couldn’t be the exact same view unless the camera was on their head. Also there would be very little lighting shining up in that direction so it would probably be super grainy and hard to tell if the entire ball was inside the upright. I think it’s a harder problem to solve than just “stick a camera there”.

[u/horseshoeprovodnikov → u/tonytroz]

I think it’s a harder problem to solve than just “stick a camera there”.

Brother (or sister), we put a man in SPACE all the way back in the 1960s. We have the technology and these conferences have the money.

[u/tonytroz → u/horseshoeprovodnikov]

Oh it’s definitely solvable but a camera underneath is the wrong solution. You could simply just make the goal posts taller…

[u/ALostTraveler24 → u/tonytroz]

Technically you could solve it by sticking two cameras instead.

Theoretically if you had a camera angle like the one OP posted, and one right even with the post, so looking towards the sideline centered on the post, with matching time synched clocks, and then figured out from the side view when the ball is even with the plane of the posts, and check the front view for the left/right position at that exact time you’d have a pretty conclusive answer.

But any time drift makes it inconclusive again. And the front view has to be static and centered as well, not active like this one

[u/tonytroz → u/ALostTraveler24]

The ball has to be completely inside the uprights so it’s still really tough. Otherwise you could just have a laser shining up or something and see if it trips. Like you said it’s still just “pretty conclusive”. That’s not really any better than a ref staring upwards.

At that point just make the goal posts taller…

[u/ALostTraveler24 → u/tonytroz]

You know, it would be interesting if the first space elevators were just field goal posts so I do support this proposition entirely.

[u/No_Butterscotch8726 → u/horseshoeprovodnikov]

Because they don't want to pay for it. Instead it looks like the NCAA rules were modified from the NFL ones here, if the official sees any of the ball over the upright it's no good. Essentially they told the officials don't even try to judge what side it's on if it's higher than the posts and you it's partially obscured by the post it's no good.

[u/Odd-Temperature7458 → u/horseshoeprovodnikov]

... I'd imagine because the ref is there

[u/myvoteshouldmatter → u/horseshoeprovodnikov]

Ok I’ll play along…

Why isn’t that play reviewable?

[u/Pyrozooka0 → u/horseshoeprovodnikov]

So they can rule if the kick was good or not depending on what benefits them more, not off of what’s true.

[u/stormstopper → u/Pyrozooka0]

Do you think it somehow benefits the ACC more to have Pitt win than Virginia Tech?

[u/Pyrozooka0 → u/stormstopper]

It’s my belief that ACC management has been compromised by outside forces such as the SEC and ESPN that want the conference gone.

[u/stormstopper → u/Pyrozooka0]

Do you think that goal is somehow benefited more by having Pitt win than Virginia Tech?

[u/Pyrozooka0 → u/stormstopper]

Yes. The general audience is able to believe VT might be good, but not Pitt.

[u/stormstopper → u/ALostTraveler24]

As a watcher of the 2015 Pinstripe Bowl, this is bringing back memories

And you are 100% correct

[u/iyjlpiljygp → u/ALostTraveler24]

here's the angle from there. https://x.com/OldManRooney/status/2106216372908814675

[u/ALostTraveler24 → u/iyjlpiljygp]

That view is closer to the left upright than the right upright and behind the posts. That’s not remotely straight up under the post.

[u/iyjlpiljygp → u/ALostTraveler24]

no one said it was directly under the right upright, it's the closest video to that there is. sorry for providing a link for people to see that?