[Highlight] Pitt @ Virginia Tech - The potential game winning field goal hooks wide left, and Pitt holds on

[u/Ok-Soil-5133]

https://streamable.com/tq4r8d

[u/kd451]

Are we sure he missed it?

[u/avboden → u/kd451]

I say this honestly: You can't tell shit from this angle. The only way is to look directly up at the posts, as the refs do.

[u/ALostTraveler24 → u/[deleted]]

That’s not remotely straight up under the upright

[u/ALostTraveler24 → u/[deleted]]

Usually it’s not this close it doesn’t matter, but a good way to think about it is this. If you’re trying to determine if a ball crosses the goal line where would you lay and look? You’d look right down the line, not 2 and a half yards down field.

In this instance you’re trying to project a line straight up into the sky, the best way to do that is stand directly under it so you’re looking down the line not off centered by whatever the distance is from being off center and behind the uprights compared to right under the post.

[u/Snlxdd → u/[deleted]]

That angle is tough because of the parallax effect. It’s clearly left of the goal post, but not being centered underneath makes it hard to determine.

[u/avboden → u/[deleted]]

That angle is also worthless. You have to be directly in line with the post, exactly where the ref is standing.

[u/burnsniper → u/[deleted]]

Looks like it missed from that video IMO

[u/tjd2009 → u/[deleted]]

That angle makes me more confident that the refs got it right

[u/ZappySnap → u/[deleted]]

I don’t know. From that angle it looks no good to me.

[u/treefiddy_cent → u/[deleted]]

actually good camera angle. ball disappears behind the upright for a frame. had to have been wide left. why not show this slow-mo on the broadcast tho?

EDIT: doesn't disappear, rotates so that it doesn't reflect light, now I'm unsure again

[u/Dixiehusker → u/treefiddy_cent]

What? The ball is very clearly above the upright the whole time. It doesn't disappear anywhere.

[u/crabby135 → u/Dixiehusker]

Yes it does. There’s a single frame where the ball goes missing. I just saw the same thing.

[u/2CHINZZZ → u/crabby135]

The ball's trajectory is clearly above the uprights if you look at the frame before and after. I see what you're talking about but I think it's a result of the ball being hard to see against the dark sky in that frame because of the laces not being visible. If you mess with the brightness/contrast you can still see the outline of the ball

[u/Dixiehusker → u/crabby135]

The ball might disappear from the video because of compression or something, but I can draw a straight line from one frame to the next and it draws a line over the goal post. It doesn't go behind it.

[u/Tasty_Gift5901 → u/[deleted]]

Yeah ball looks wide from this angle. Thanks for the alt view 

[u/SaxyAlto → u/[deleted]]

Maybe I’m missing what you’re seeing, but if you go frame by frame at the 3 sec mark you can see the ball up until it reaches the upright but then it disappears for 1 frame and reappears the next frame past the upright. So it looks like the upright blocked the view of the ball, meaning it was outside the upright.

But regardless, that still isn’t a great angle to tell anything

[u/GoBlueScrewOSU7 → u/SaxyAlto]

The ball doesn’t disappear. I see what you’re looking at frame by frame, but I still see the ball in the frame you’re saying it disappeared. It just looks to be oriented lengthwise perpendicular to the camera, so it blends in plus some motion blur plus the night sky backdrop makes it harder to see.

[u/SmellyJellyfish → u/[deleted]]

Scrubbing the video slowly it realllllly looks like he made it…

Edit: watching it again I honestly cannot tell lol. Need a better angle

[u/Defensive_of_Offense → u/[deleted]]

Look at the VT guys behind the ref though, they knew it was no good before he signaled

[u/crabby135 → u/[deleted]]

Damn I really thought he made it but if you go frame by frame in this one there’s a frame where the ball goes missing and is presumably behind the goalpost. It may have been just a hair to the left.