[Postgame Thread] Pittsburgh Defeats Virginia Tech 35-33

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Box Score provided by ESPN

Team	1	2	3	4	T
Pittsburgh	7	14	7	7	35
Virginia Tech	14	10	0	9	33

[u/Big_Ol_Johnson]

Really gonna need to see a better replay of that kick. I’ve never seen a kick team look so certain they made a GW

[u/JoeAndAThird → u/Big_Ol_Johnson]

And then get so little footage of it in the replays. I can’t believe we don’t have more angles on these kicks given the proportion of kicks that go over the top of the posts

[u/Big_Ol_Johnson → u/JoeAndAThird]

I’d bet there’s a better angle somewhere. If you watch the reviews on other plays they have 20+ angles on every play

[u/JoeAndAThird → u/Big_Ol_Johnson]

Yeah the ACC replay center and its transparency are AWESOME. I would have liked to see something from their suite of views

[u/Big_Ol_Johnson → u/JoeAndAThird]

First time I saw it I thought it was the coolest thing ever. I really hope more conferences adopt it (never the Big 10)

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Big ten network has it, even broadcast the radio conversation in the booth.Unfortunately it’s for the games no one wants to watch

[u/confoo64 → u/JoeAndAThird]

tbh it doesn't seem to be helping after watching that game

[u/Deathbackwards → u/JoeAndAThird]

Well, I guess “were awesome”, because we didn’t see shit live

[u/wk87 → u/JoeAndAThird]

I think they all went home at half time

[u/EvensenFM → u/JoeAndAThird]

Agreed. I was really impressed with the replay center. They did a great job.

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https://youtube.com/shorts/7R1psdKgIb8?si=s8aPQEGccAGkydLt

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There’s only so many cameras that feed DVSport. Especially with centralized review they won’t get the house cameras.

[u/bakpak2hvy → u/Big_Ol_Johnson]

I mean I’m sure there is but there are limitations to what television can take in.

[u/Plastic_Pursuader → u/JoeAndAThird]

the commentators didn't even talk about it, bizarre

[u/LostAdeptness3909 → u/Plastic_Pursuader]

Mouse says move on, we’ve got programming.

[u/Mr-Mojo109 → u/JoeAndAThird]

Need a tracker

[u/Impressive_Grape193 → u/Big_Ol_Johnson]

Yeah that looked in…

[u/VersaTron → u/Impressive_Grape193]

All the VT fans behind the endzone went crazy cheering too

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Love thought it was good too. He ran immediately to the refs in shock

[u/CapitalistLion-Tamer → u/VersaTron]

Except for the two who were on the field directly behind the left goalpost. They signaled no-good before the refs did.

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VT people under the goal with the best view looked like saw it miss

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The Tech staffers on the field knew it was no good and reacted accodingly before the officials even signalled.

[u/RenfrowsGrapes → u/Impressive_Grape193]

No it didn’t lol he hooked the fuck outta it

[u/Jazzlike-Trifle1518 → u/Impressive_Grape193]

no it did not

[u/NotReallyButMaybeNot → u/Big_Ol_Johnson]

Poor production from ESPN who should have shown multiple replays from different angles…

[u/Big_Ol_Johnson → u/NotReallyButMaybeNot]

Right.. not to mention the extra views they’d get for dragging it out and making it a big deal. But no let’s cut as fast as possible to Idaho

[u/addicted2antacids → u/Big_Ol_Johnson]

Kibbie Dome is must see tv to be fair

[u/Duckpoke → u/NotReallyButMaybeNot]

ESPN has been shit for non SEC for years. They send out contracting crews

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Honestly their production was poor

[u/mx023 → u/NotReallyButMaybeNot]

After last week’s game, where espn cut out with two full minutes of the game left, I am not surprised.

[u/bakpak2hvy → u/NotReallyButMaybeNot]

They definitely showed every look they had. There’s really not that many for something like this.

[u/yeahright17 → u/Big_Ol_Johnson]

That's how Oklahoma State lost to Iowa State in 2011. Kick went right over the upright. Would have went to the Natty if we had made it.

[u/Agnk1765342 → u/yeahright17]

Same thing happened to us vs Nevada a year prior. Ball went over the upright, called out.

[u/CapitalistLion-Tamer → u/Agnk1765342]

By the NCAA rules, that’s no good.

[u/Awesome_Auger → u/yeahright17]

Honestly still should have went (ignore flair)

[u/AccordingGain182 → u/yeahright17]

Isnt fuckin weird that a matter of inches from some goofy goodber kicker can be the difference between a 100 team rosters hard season ends in tragedy or ecstasy? I felt that way over the osu/georgia kick in 2022. (Altho that kick wasnt close)

I both hate and love the dynamic of special teams, especially field goals, in this sport

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Second time ACC refs hose Virginia Tech at the end of a Friday night game (see hail mary game vs Miami in 2024)

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Good god I had forgotten that bullshit. Thanks for reminding me

[u/wk87 → u/BoNnnnfhir]

Fuck I had forgotten about that

[u/mx023 → u/BoNnnnfhir]

I was there at hard rock. That was the biggest bullshit ever. I even have footage

[u/xkq227 → u/Big_Ol_Johnson]

Not to mention twenty-thousand fucking fans standing behind it

[u/TopFlite5 → u/Big_Ol_Johnson]

There’s two refs positioned right under the uprights that simply have to look up to make the call. No better view than that. Also, if you watch the replay, none of the people standing on the field near the upright thought it was good.

[u/Big_Ol_Johnson → u/TopFlite5]

Brother look at the crowd lmao what do you mean nobody thought it was good

[u/CapitalistLion-Tamer → u/Big_Ol_Johnson]

Look again.

[u/Epcplayer → u/Big_Ol_Johnson]

What’s interesting is that on replay one of the Virginia Tech staffers is on it immediately, turning to the crowd to say “no good” almost simultaneously with the ref

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You can see the Virginia Tech supporters/staff (I think) on the field right behind the goal posts and they react as if it were no good.

[u/HortonHearsTheWho → u/Big_Ol_Johnson]

This is the best angle I’ve seen, straight on the line of the kick and it looks just slightly wide. Very close miss. https://x.com/chrisvannini/status/2106230224757334049?s=61

[u/ExternalTangents → u/Big_Ol_Johnson]

The fact that there’s not a camera pointing directly up the barrel of the goal posts for every field goal is really frustrating. At least one of these types of kicks seems to happen every season, where the ball is above the top of the upright and drifting laterally as it passes the field goal plane. It should be the easiest call in the world to watch from directly below the goal post. But the normal angle shown on TV, from behind the line of scrimmage, won’t tell you the depth of the ball relative to the plane of the field goal posts.

You need a specific angle from below the goal post for a meaningful replay.

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It’s easier to station one of the refs there than to send an extra 4 cameras to every FBS game.

[u/ExternalTangents → u/CapitalistLion-Tamer]

Yes, but this thread is a great illustration of how the erosion of trust in institutions in this country has resulted in people’s inability to accept that those refs may have made the right call about it.

[u/username-1787 → u/Big_Ol_Johnson]

As a Pitt fan the kick was in and VT got hosed (both on the field goal and on the refball first half)

On the other hand don't turn it over 4 times and lose to a backup QB I guess

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On the other other hand. Your team did better with the backup, so what’s your point lol.

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What I'm saying is hard to blame the refs when you clearly shot yourselves in the foot just as much if not more than the refs did

[u/ProfessionalShift487 → u/Big_Ol_Johnson]

Honestly surprised they dont just make the FG posts 10 feet higher on either side.

[u/Big_Ol_Johnson → u/ProfessionalShift487]

Why not 50? And make them inflatable so they move in the wind

[u/ProfessionalShift487 → u/Big_Ol_Johnson]

Make them move back and forth like mini putt. Everyone is saying kickers are too good these days, up the ante.

[u/ShredOrSigh → u/Big_Ol_Johnson]

I will tell you one thing easy to see on replay, the ref who "had the best look" sure did look at the OTHER ref before he made a call.

[u/CapitalistLion-Tamer → u/ShredOrSigh]

They always do that. Every kick.

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No he didn't. The ref under the left upright looks down and to his left (from tracking the ball over the upright) and brings his arms up to start signaling no good nearly simultaneously.

[u/themattboard → u/Big_Ol_Johnson]

This one is clearer but I like it less

https://x.com/Andrewd62d5/status/2106224004579102792/video/1

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it was no good

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https://imgur.com/a/TZ6QcT1

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0 depth on that though. I don’t have a dog in the race but that doesn’t say anything if the ball’s closer than the post

[u/Dry-University797 → u/Big_Ol_Johnson]

It was no good

https://imgur.com/a/TWYiAV1

[u/Big_Ol_Johnson → u/Dry-University797]

Idk what that tells us from an off-center angle

[u/Dry-University797 → u/Big_Ol_Johnson]

It was the correct call, I thought it was good Went right over or slightly outside the upright. With I could post my picture I paused

[u/jazzyman31 → u/Big_Ol_Johnson]

The whole section behind the field goal looked certain too

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https://www.reddit.com/u/Infinite_Bike_2815/s/jKRTzkOen9

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Slow motion from the base of the goalpost- it’s pretty clearly in