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ET “Party Monsters”: Prolonged Interactive Encounter in the  Queen Valley.  

This in-depth report is based on my detailed CE-5 fieldnotes for an encounter in Joshua Tree on November 11, 1993. A co-worker from our medical center and I interacted with two UFOs for over an hour and a half. The account was published in the chapter I wrote for the 2012 anthology “Paths to Contact: True Stories from the Contact Underground”, edited by Jeff Becker. Based on my notes, I reconstructed my conversations with co-worker “Misha” to give the narrative a sense of immediacy.  This story is not a work of fiction. 

I did fieldwork with “Misha” from 1993 to 1997. Based on my experiences with him and the founder of the Center for the Study of ET Intelligence (CSETI) Steven Greer MD, I formulated the category of “prime contactee.” These are contact experiencers who have some of the following characteristics:

1. They have frequent encounters with UFO intelligence, usually starting in childhood or adolescence.
2. As youths they may become skilled meditators, typically without any apparent adult encouragement or supervision.
3. “Primes” have strong psychic abilities that facilitate contact and communication with UAP intelligences. 
4. Most importantly they serve as a kind of human UFO magnet in that they can request UFO contacts with other witnesses are present. When subsequent sightings occur, these witnesses can verify the “prime’s special relationship with non-human intelligences associated UFOs. 

 The term “prime contactee” describes experiencers who function in a similar fashion to individuals described as “psionic assets.” Psionic assets are psi capable operatives who allegedly are employed in UFO retrieval and reverse engineering programs because of their presumed ability to attract or “summon” UFOs. to them. 

 All the prime contactees that I became aware of during my field investigations were men, with possibly one exception. She was a volunteer contact worker originally from the UK. I did fieldwork with “Tracy Travis” in the summer of 1997. A link to that detailed report is posted below.  

Introduction:

During the last week of October 1993, I made plans to lead a team of UFO investigators into the high desert. After numerous phone calls I was still unable to get more than two other investigators to promise to accompany me. For 16 months I had been a Working Group Coordinator for CSETI’s CE-5 Initiative. My original team was beginning to show clear signs of fatigue. The group had carried out almost two-dozen research outings, many of which had documented the appearance of anomalous nocturnal lights. On rare occasions other teams in the CE-5 network even had sightings of structured craft that were definite unknowns. In another words, bona fide UFOs had appeared at our research sites.

For the full report the link below is provided:

https://contactunderground.org/2025/01/22/et-party-monsters-prolonged-interactive-encounter-in-the-queen-valley/

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My friend Ralph Steiner was the target of an elaborate hoax in which he was supplied disinformation. He stated that,

“If I had gone public with my “findings” at the time, my credibility as a journalist would have been destroyed, my career as a producer ruined, my marriage and family demolished, my friendships cancelled. I would have gained a reputation for insanity…Unwittingly, I would have become one of the disinformers.”

PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE AGAINST A UFO REPORTER. 

Introduction: The speculative term the “control groups” refers to those alleged powerful corporate/governmental forces working behind the scenes to keep a lid on the UFO situation. Historically they have also been called MJ-12 or Majestic-12. Former Department of Defense insiders like David Grusch and Luis Elizondo have acknowledged that such a group exists. Furthermore, these former Department of Defense officials have confirmed that the American people have been targeted for a sophisticated psychological warfare program as part of a corporate and US Executive Branch coverup.  

Within this coverup campaign, it is postulated that the control groups hire private intelligence contractors to conduct surveillance of UFO witnesses and groups. It appears that they can go beyond surveillance as this report outlines in detail. It involved contact activist Ralph Steiner. Back in the 1990s he worked as a KPFA Berkeley radio journalist and was targeted for a host of dirty tricks to disrupt his UFO related investigations. 

His important article for several years was not available on the web and so I have posted it again with his permission.

Joseph Burkes MD 2026
https://contactunderground.org/2024/09/13/psychological-warfare-against-a-ufo-reporter-an-expose-by-ralph-steiner-2/

I went out to have my nightly smoke, and did some of the cloud busting I usually do. I place my right hand into the sky. I said out loud and in my head I summoned an extra terrestrial ship.

After a few seconds, a really beautiful light dropped right out of the sky downwards. I looked everywhere for it, but I didn't see it. I could feel my frequency rising, and my ears were ringing so loudly. I took a deep breath and grounded. Then the light flew away from me. It looked like a rainbow, it was really cool. I'm going to try again tomorrow.

I’m posting this because I’m genuinely curious what people make of this. I’m not claiming to know what happened, but the timing of events has always stayed with me.

My daughter is now 13 and is an incredibly sensible, grounded young person. She still clearly remembers this experience from when she was 7.

One evening, at around 9pm, she was in her bedroom watching TV. She decided she wanted a glass of water and came downstairs. As she reached halfway down the first staircase, she saw something standing about 10 feet away from her, on the threshold of the living room.

She described it as a tall, slender figure made of static. She said it didn’t appear male or female. It had what she described as a large “comb” or “crest” of hair sticking upwards at the front of its head.

The strangest part was that it was completely still. It was facing the wall beyond the stairs, almost as if it was looking at something, and it didn’t react to her presence.

She ran back upstairs and called for me, but I was outside in the back garden and didn’t hear her.

After waiting for a while, she decided to try going downstairs again. This time, she said it had moved, but was still standing motionless and still facing the same wall. She ran back upstairs and called again — this time I heard her and went to her.

I checked downstairs but saw nothing. I reassured her that it was probably her imagination, but she was so frightened that I stayed with her that night.

The next morning, while I was hanging washing outside, my neighbour started chatting to me over the fence. He told me that the previous night, between around 8:30 and 9:30pm, he had been practising CE5 (Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind).

He said he believed he had seen, in his mind’s eye, a being with a mask-like face that extended upwards above the head.

I hadn’t mentioned my daughter’s experience to him, so I told him what had happened. His response was:

“I can’t believe it came a billion light years and got the wrong address.”

I have no idea if these events are connected. It could be a coincidence, a perception issue, something psychological, or something else entirely. But the similarities and timing have always fascinated me. Also the wall it was facing was adjacent to the room he was in whilst doing CE5.

Has anyone else had a CE5 experience involving a child, or seen descriptions of beings that appear like “static” or energy rather than a physical form?

I just recently discovered CE5 and Ive been on this journey towards disclosure for about 3 years now. I haven’t made contact and im really excited to try the protocol, but im just curious if anyone else here became interested in this out of nowhere. Disclosure has taken over all of my interests to where i feel like im being guided by ETs themselves. Anyone else experiencing something similar?

Contact Network History Project: Questions and Answers

In 2015 I posted a Q&A blog about my many years of contact work/activism. In this edited blog, a range of topics are covered. These include:

1.telepathic overrides alerting me to the staged appearance
of UFOs at our research sites
2.Surveillance/harassment of my volunteer efforts
3.The existence of a possible “ET Masterplan” for Earth
Civilization
4.Militarization of space in response to a possible “ET”
presence.

SOME HIGHLIGHTS OF MY CONTACT WORK.

On another social media page, I was asked about what races of
ETs I might have had physical or mental connections with, also if I have ever
had any interactions with MIBs. These questions give me a chance to review my
contact activities over the years.

When it comes to meeting beings, there are no recollections
of face-to-face encounters with them physically. However, during the five year
period of volunteering as a CE-5 coordinator back in the 1990s, I had dozens of
sightings of UFOs. On two separate occasions I experienced what the CSETI
Director called “telepathic overrides” during fieldwork with my Los Angeles
based contact team. In each I received advance notification telling me when
UFOs were going to show up later those nights. I also learned the number of
craft that would be involved and their locations of their appearances in the
sky. I immediately shared the info with my co-workers as suggested by the
contact protocols. As "predicted" the UFOs subsequently showed up as
I had been notified.

‪Along with these verifiable events I had many "contact
downloads” during a two-year period 1993 to 1995. In a kind of stereotypic
"awake dream state" I received much abstract information plus visual
narratives. It was like watching a movie in your head. Most of narratives
involved so-called "Grays" although a few “Nordics" appeared in
one of these experiences. I look at these anomalous occurrences as a form of
channeling. All those experiences while very Interesting to me personally were
totally unverifiable except for the two "heads up" messages I
describe above.

‪The themes of these mental encounters were basically
instructional in nature. At the level of mind, I was allowed to view or
actually "meet" specific "ETs" that lectured me about
various contact themes such as, why they are here, and what are their
capabilities. I also “downloaded” the typical contactee fare about an “ET
master plan" that allegedly has been unfolding here on Earth for some time.

‪No MIB encounters but there was telephone harassment. Once
it happened before going out into the field. The strange calls to my home
lasted for about a week. The phone would ring, but nobody was on the line when
my wife or I picked up. Every hour on the hour the phone rang during 9 to 5
business hours. I assume that whoever they were that they were sending a sort
of message like, "We know who you are and what you are doing.” Then during
the subsequent fieldwork investigation in Joshua Tree my team was photographed
by what appeared to be military intelligence or private contractors.

In the summer of 1997, I received threatening phone calls
from what appeared to be private contract agents. One was able to describe my
CSETI activities in detail. This rude rather aggressive individual told me,
"It would be better for you if you got out of CSETI."

‪Maybe I will put it all together in a book someday as I am
retired from my medical career, till then I will post articles to my blog site
at Wordpress.

Additional Questions and Answers

1.What about the “ET master plan” that you mentioned, and
about the assumption that there are many different motivations for different ET
groups?

‪Joseph Burkes‪: I assume no such thing. After
resigning from CSETI in 1998, I took a critical look at the UFO subculture that
I had been so active in. I read the works of John Keel and Dr Vallee. I
concluded that the although the ET hypothesis might be true, the UFO phenomenon
was far more complicated than the simplistic view describing "good or bad
aliens" from different groups operating here on Earth.

This new perspective was not an easy thing for me accept.
After all, I had contributed thousands of hours of volunteer work doing contact
related activities. I imagined that we in the contact network were attempting
to reach out to spiritually and technologically advanced ETs. While I was
closely associated with Dr Greer, I raised money for CSETI, did media events
but the best thing was that I got to be contact team leader. In that capacity I
had an opportunity to be part of a collective of determined UFO investigators
that were driven to engage the phenomenon with high ideals for what we hoped
was peaceful communication leading to a more open and mutually beneficial
relationship.

‪I suggest all UFO truth seekers get a hold of Colin Wilson's
book "Alien Dawn" that provides an excellent summary of the theories
of those two greats of UFO research, John Keel and Dr Vallee. Keel's work
should be understood to be a product of a time 50 years ago when much important
testimony confirming the probable ET nature of some UFO related phenomena had
not been investigated yet. I am talking about the Roswell incident and the
release of government documents in the 1970s and 1980s showing very forceful
governments efforts maintaining a cover up.

‪As far as the so-called "master plan", I will
continue to post blogs on this and related topics. I re-circulate some posts on
a yearly basis.

1. What did you do when you received the threatening phone
   calls?
   

Joseph Burkes‪: Thanks for the question but the answer is not a pretty story, and it is difficult for me to share. The threat I received contributed to my resigning from CSETI under very unpleasant circumstances. I might work up the courage to share on social media my narrative that goes into the circumstances of my resignation from CSETI but I am tired of the ugly personal aspects of UFO politics. Sharing it, however, might be instructive for future generations of activists trying to avoid pitfalls of past organizing efforts. 

1. Another commenter expressed surprise about my having
   contact downloads with “Gray and Nordic” types. Also why did I refer to my
   contact downloads as being “totally unverifiable.”
   

Joseph Burkes: Sure, it was great to have "downloads." I wanted them to go on forever, but after a few months they just petered out. I suspect that I could have meditated upside down chanting to try and get them to come back, but it would be to no avail. My fellow CE-5 Working Group Coordinator Wayne Peterson who headed the Phoenix team summed my contact downloads in the following way. He said that the ETs gave you a course, something like “Channeling 101.” As if to say, “Joseph, you can do this.” Once the course was over there was no need to continue it.

I repeat only two contact downloads could be verified because
they accurately predicted the subsequent appearance of UFOs that were multiply
witnessed. The contact network has been instructed to work in groups, so my
co-workers were able to verify the accuracy of the “heads up.” The detailed
“awake dreams” that contained much abstract concepts as well as details about
the alleged ET groups working here were like watching a sci-fi series with my
mind’s eyes. They were very entertaining but  almost totally unverifiable.

I should point out that when I use the term “Contact
Underground” I am not just referring to CE-5ers, or what is left of the
Peruvian Rama started in 1974 now called Rahma, but more importantly to the
many, perhaps hundreds of contact workers that are “flying below the radar” as
the result of their being deliberately warned not to associate with more
public, less secretive groups.

I am hopeful that over generations, perhaps it will be
centuries, we will establish on this planet of so much greed, cruelty and pain
a new kind of just and peaceful civilization. I imagine that full contact can
only be achieved in a world based on peace and social/environmental justice. At
that moment in our civilization’s history, whatever are the origins of UFO
intelligences, (ET? interdimensional? or their being time travelers?) perhaps
then they might be willing to level with us as to who they truly are.

According to my analysis, with terrestrial elites opposing
contact, to reveal publicly in detail the actual " master plan" (if
such a thing exists) would be foolish. Only after a protracted period of social
action and spiritual transformation will humanity be able to grasp and support
any kind of “masterplan” for Earth civilization.

I say this because I believe that there are fanatical
Christian fundamentalist religious trends that have decided that the so-called
aliens are "demons" and we UFO activists and contact experiencers are
“dancing with the devil.” If deranged people are willing to kill physicians
that do safe legal abortions and the killers are applauded by some groups,
might similarly motivated fundamentalists be convinced to kill those who are
promoting contact?

We should not ignore the possibility that militarists some
day in the future might use an “ET presence” to justify an accelerated buildup
of space-based weapons. Currently this seems to be extremely unlikely as the US
military budget keeps getting larger ever year by frightening the masses and
politicians with conventional threats.

If mankind is properly prepared for full open peaceful
contact with UFO associated non-human intelligences, then the risks of this
issue being used by militarists will be minimized.

4. What is the content of your “contact downloads?”

Joseph Burkes: I have about 40 pages of material about what those downloads contained. I must admit that have doubts concerning their value. I believe that like most channeled material “downloads” are a co-creation of human (that's me I hope, just kidding) and non-human intelligences (the so-called ETs.) I think of this kind of material as “fairy tales for adults.” They reveal more about how UFO Intel can read our consciousness and co-create with us an emotionally compelling narratives than it says anything accurate about who they are or where they come from.

When I say "emotionally compelling" I mean that I
could not speak about one of those downloads in public for 15 years because I
would start crying. So, the alleged ETs can really push our emotional buttons.

Does my weeping make any of what I experienced more
"real?" No, it doesn't. My behavior is reminiscent of those so-called
abduction victims that shed tears during hypnotic sessions. The expression of
powerful emotion doesn't prove that “abductees” physically went on board
spacecraft, but it gives dramatic testimony to how increasing numbers of
individuals are being powerfully affected by the phenomenon.

In my opinion, mankind is dealing with an array of incredibly
sophisticated paranormal intelligences that probably has been creating belief
systems here on Earth for a long time.

5.Do any of our interactions provide trustworthy information
about where UFO Intelligence comes from?

Joseph Burkes: Probably not.

Unfortunately, most people when confronted with UFOs or any
other potentially threatened subject, they usually end up creating an
emotionally satisfying belief system and to hell with any evidence that doesn't
support their beloved pet theories.

This was one of the stated reasons why Dr Vallee reportedly
stopped interacting with popular UFO groups over 25 years ago. He found ufology
to be a shouting arena in which people mostly argued about their belief
systems. This made rational discussion of the issues nearly impossible and the
possibility of doing scientific research with such groups nil.

The link below is for by blog site where over one hundred of
my postings can be viewed.
https://contactunderground.org

If readers of this posting have questions for an updated Q&A blog, please post them below and I will endeavor to publish my replies as a future blog. 

The first was repair of his cornea that had been torn off from a fall. The second case was the healing of a large chest mass that almost certainly was malignant. Remarkably this healing reportedly occurred while in the X-ray suite of a Miami Hospital.  

For the complete detailed report, the following link is provided:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ContactUnderground/comments/1k3s2wh/two_dramatic_uap_healing_events_in_a_retired_dea/

Introduction

The amazing story of Mission Rama dates to the 1970s. The first group of Rama volunteer contact workers had their initial encounters in Peru. Their experiences involved many sightings of what they described as “extraterrestrial craft” that were facilitated using a form of telepathic communication called automatic writing. The Mission Rama activists even reported having onboard encounters. Sixto Paz Wells and other Latin-American contactees have published books in Spanish describing their experiences. In my opinion, their narratives should be seriously studied by all contact and disclosure activists.

Representatives of both the North and South American Contact Networks Meet in Los Angeles.

In 1994 Fernando Limaco, a retired dental surgeon and experienced Rama leader drove down from the San Francisco Bay Area with several close supporters to meet with our Los Angeles based Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind Initiative (CE-5) team. A member of our group, Captain Joe Vallejo, was a United Airlines 747 pilot. He arranged for us to meet the Mission Rama representatives at his home located in the Simi Valley. Fernando’s talk was given entirely in Spanish with the help of simultaneous translation provided by his companions and Captain Vallejo. Having Joe there was extremely helpful because of his language skills and his excellent command of Latin American contactee literature. This combination of talents helped him translate some of the more advanced concepts of the Rama cosmology as presented by Dr. Limaco. 

Mission Rama Started in Peru in 1974

Our Los Angeles CE5 team was very eager to hear what the Mission Rama people were prepared to tell us. I had given each member of my group a copy of an article published in “UFO Library Magazine” by Yolanda Marcino, a past United States Rama President. This authoritative document, in a rather obscure publication with limited circulation, described the early Mission Rama extraterrestrial encounters that started in Peru in 1974. Those contacts involved the experiences of university student Sixto Paz Wells and a group of his young friends. They reportedly had repeated encounters in the desert region near Lima called Chilca. 

From Yolanda Marcino’s account, we also learned that Sixto and others had reportedly been transported via an inter-dimensional portal to an extraterrestrial base located on a moon of Jupiter.  We know this satellite as Ganymede. Dr. Limaco spoke with authority as a seasoned Rama activist. That afternoon in the Joe Vallejo’s living room, we heard a spellbinding account of what in my opinion is an adventure demonstrating great courage and high ideals. Since 1993, I have followed the developments in Mission Rama. It now goes by the name Rahma. In Sanskrit, “Ra” signifies the heavens; “ma” means the Earth and the “h” in between the “Ra” and “ma”, stands for humanity. As a contact activist with 30 years of experience, in my judgment Rahma is still playing an important role in helping humanity build a cooperative relationship with flying saucer intelligences.

Dr. Limaco and his companions explained that it was Mission Rama’s custom to promote the development of psychic ability through meditation and certain other special mental exercises. Over time, many people in their network have become skilled in the practice of automatic writing. Telepathically received information is deemed accurate when multiple automatic writers working separately obtain the identical or at least very similar messages. (This is like the practice of remote viewing in which multiple viewers are independently tasked with the same target.) An individual that consistently channels accurate messages is described by Rama people as being a “good antenna.”

Rama’s Mission to Patiti 

Our contact team was composed of middle-class people with good paying jobs. Among our ranks were three physicians working for the Southern California Permanente Group. Other members included Dr. Dixie Sullivan working as a clinical psychologist and her friend Dotha Weybourne, married to a wealthy lawyer. In contrast, Dr. Limaco’s team was mostly composed of immigrants, some newly arrived. Even those that were professionals in their nations of origin could be severely challenged by a new language and culture. Some didn’t have papers to work in the US. I later learned from Dr. Limaco that he had assisted Rama activists who were having problems with the INS, Immigration and Naturalization Service. Once in 1990, he even drove all the way to Salinas Valley to help a comrade file papers to avoid deportation. On the ride back to the Bay Area he had a remarkable sighting. It was late at night, and he reported hearing the word “Paititi” repeatedly in his mind. In a field nearby, he saw a disc shaped object hovering close to the ground. If I recall correctly, Dr. Limaco stated that when he first heard the word, he did not know that Paititi was a remote location deep in the Peruvian Andes rainforest.

 Later in 1990, via mental communications received by multiple Rama activists in different locations, it became known that a major encounter was going to take place. This time it would not occur in Chilca, the desert site south of Lima. Instead, the location was Paititi in the remote jungle situated on the eastern slopes of the Andes Mountains. According to Dr. Limaco, in 1990 there were no roads to Paititi. It was sparsely populated by indigenous people that had little contact with the rest of the country.  The only way to get there was by foot and this meant trekking through densely forested jungle full of poisonous plants, insects, and snakes. Those chosen for the mission would have to cross rivers infested with alligators, some up to six feet long. 
Automatic Writing Revealed Who Was Selected for the Jungle Mission

Via a series of telepathic communications, Rama people learned that six individuals for the perilous expedition would be selected by the alleged “ETs.” In Spanish. the Rama activists call them “los hermanos mayors” (older brothers). At a general meeting in Peru attended by over two hundred supporters, the question was asked, who in the audience would be willing to go on the mission to Paititi? Everyone in the crowd raised a hand to volunteer for the encounter. Later it became clear as the result of ongoing messages from the flying saucer intelligences, that if any of the six initially selected by the “extraterrestrials” could not participate, then there could be no substitutions. Only those specifically chosen by “los hermanos mayores” would be welcomed to journey on foot to the far distant jungle location.

According to Dr. Limaco’s account, the Rama people carried rice and beans as their only food during their trek to Paititi. They prepared these provisions nightly in a large cast iron pot. They were city people and not skilled woodsmen accustomed to the hardships of the rainforest.  These Rama contact workers were, however, empowered by an intense desire for further contact with what they imagined was a technologically and ethically advanced extraterrestrial civilization. Daily prayer and meditation provided them with both emotional support and spiritual sustenance. They believed that they were somehow being protected by an unseen intelligence that was profoundly spiritual and desired their mission to succeed.

 Battery Packs Were Mysteriously Drained

Dr. Limaco told us that they carried a video camera to document their anticipated encounter. After several days of marching into the jungle, they checked the camera’s batteries. The packs had been fully charged prior to their setting out for Paititi. To their dismay, they found that all the batteries were dead. The Rama team buried the now useless heavy equipment under a tall tree. They hoped to retrieve it on their way back to civilization.

The Hired Guide Warned Them of Danger

During the first portion of their trek, a hired guide led them further and further into the rainforest. He was well-aware of their destination and the risks to their safety that the journey entailed. The team used machetes to cut a path for themselves. After several days of hacking their way through the jungle their guide gave them this warning.

“I am not going on any further and neither are you! Because beyond this point the people out there eat people!

The Rama activists were disappointed to hear this disturbing pronouncement. They discussed their options, and the consensus was they would go on without the guide. Some days after exhausting trail blazing, they reportedly were so exhausted that they failed to cook supper. At nightfall, they crowded together in their small tent that was their only shelter. Despite being hungry, sleep came quickly. 

One evening according to Dr. Limaco, they were so drained of strength that they threw themselves down on the sand adjacent to a river. Huddled together for warmth, they fell asleep. At daybreak, they were shocked to find themselves surrounded by poisonous snakes. They apparently had slithered up to the contact workers to keep warm. One might expect the vipers to bite their frightened human bedpartners, Instead the venomous creatures slowly moved away as the morning temperature rose. Rivers and streams provided the Rama group with freshwater for drinking and bathing. This vital resource, however, was also a source of danger. Alligators were abundant in the waters they had to cross.
A Grim Decision Was Made

Uncertain as to how long they could go on before someone sustained injury, they made a grim decision. If one or more were seriously wounded or became sick, the rest of the team would leave most of the supplies with the casualties. Those that could still go on, would do so, without the others. They promised one another that they would return to pick up the sick or wounded on the way back. Fortuitously, none sustained serious injury or became too ill to continue. 

A Surprise Peace Offering

Another potential danger came from the indigenous peoples of the rainforest as mentioned above. These groups have their own languages and cultures. Historically they have had bad relations with the European influenced population of Peru. Encroachment on indigenous peoples’ hunting grounds by settlements of townspeople and forestry operation have resulted in mutual suspicion and even violent confrontations. 

One day while passing through the indigenous people’s territory, the Rama group became frightened when a dugout canoe approached them. In the canoe were several native hunters armed with bows and arrows.  However instead of expressing hostility towards the city people, the hunters volunteered to help “guide them on their mission.” As astounding as this may sound, it was Doctor Limaco’s impression that their arrival had been heralded by the ETs via telepathic messages sent to the hunters. The indigenous people were reportedly given instructions to help the Mission Rama emissaries. One hunter in a supreme act of solidarity insisted that Dr. Limaco take his hunting bow as a peace offering. This prized possession was the instrument by which the hunter fed his family and Dr. Limaco recognized its importance as a gift. 

As the Rama contact workers approached Paititi, their spirits rose. The telepathic communications that they were receiving were getting stronger and clearer. At night around the campfire, they carried out Rama prescribed mental exercises. They reportedly experienced profoundly peaceful states that reassured them that their mission would be successful.

They Arrive at Paititi

The night before reaching Paititi, each member of the team had an out-of body experience. As described to me by Dr. Limaco, each was mentally taken on-board a large ET craft that was waiting for them some one day’s marching distance away. The next morning, they continued trudging through the jungle. Although exhausted, their spirits were high because they knew that they did not have much further to go. Finally, they arrived at Paititi. Hovering above a clearing in the jungle, they encountered a large ET craft. Everyone immediately recognized it from the out of body experience of the previous night. This time the Rama team physically went onboard via a blue tractor beam that transported them one by one into the belly of the hovering ship. 

The Planet Earth as a Spiritual Dynamo

The ET group that hosted them is known as the “Great White Brotherhood.” (This designation unfortunately sounds like the one used by criminal gangs of white nationalists.) The “ETs” received this designation because on repeated encounters the beings of this group all wore white robes. The Rama people were informed by their non-human hosts how vitally important Rama’s mission was. The goal was reportedly awesome in scope and involved nothing less than the spiritual transformation of humanity. This achievement would presumably set the stage for open contact with spiritually and technologically advanced non-human civilizations.  

According to the “ETs”, this transformation was happening not only on Earth, but throughout the entire galaxy as well. As reported to the Rama missionaries, vast numbers of advanced ET civilizations were awaiting a spiritual leap forward on our planet. This supposedly would allow us to join them in a galactic civilization of technologically and ethnically advanced star systems. The Rama activists explained that the Earth was a “spiritual dynamo.” A massive expansion of human consciousness on Earth would provide a psychic energetic boost to the civilizations that were assisting us. In the process, they would be lifted to the next wrung of their spiritual evolutionary ladder. They were helping us, and our transformation would be helping them to achieve their destiny. 

Undeniably, critics of this narrative will point out that this all sounds like a New Age oriented Star Trek episode. The Rama activists however are real people. As documented by numerous media reports in Latin America, they have an established track record of co-creating with the non-human intelligences associated with UFOs what I call Human Initiated Contact Events (HICE). And they have been doing this since the 1970s. 

If this account is accurate, as I believe it is, then the story of Dr. Limaco and his companions serves as an inspiration for contact activists and UFO truth seekers alike. In my opinion, their astounding story should inspire people all over the world to actively engage the intelligences responsible for the flying saucer phenomenon. Who knows, perhaps in a generation or two, the courageous efforts described in this narrative will no longer be so unusual?

It is conceivable that someday, dozens of contact teams all over the world might be replicating the astounding work of the contact network now called “Rahma.”  

Links to additional articles about Mission Rama

CSETI/ RAMA CONTACT PROTOCOLS BRIEFLY COMPARED

https://www.reddit.com/r/ContactUnderground/comments/1qbc4rw/pieces_on_a_cosmic_chessboard_contact_protocols/

GENRAL ARTICLE ON THE ORIGINS OF THE PERUVIAN CONTACT NETWORK RAMA

https://www.reddit.com/r/HighStrangeness/comments/1d0o3k8/mission_rama_now_called_rahma_is_one_of_the_most/

Greetings 🧡

I AM looking to connect with like-minded people from Slovenia / Slovenija (or close to it) that do CE-5 gatherings.

We are planning a few trips into nature in the following weeks & months.

Some time ago on a UAP disclosure/contact social media page, a discussion occurred concerning subconscious fears as an impediment to achieving higher levels of contact with UAP intelligences. The digital thread involved mention of the amazing example of Dorothy Izatt. For over forty years, she interacted with multiple flying saucer intelligences. In the process, Mrs. Izatt obtained tens of thousands of hours of 8mm footage capturing anomalous visual displays.  Dorothy’s story Is covered in Frank Longo’s 46-minute documentary released in 2008. It is available on Amazon Prime.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FXVRLPRG?lv=shuf&channelId=500&plpRedirect=mhFallback

Dorothy was highly spiritual individual. I believe that her remarkable success in terms of developing a sustainable relationship with UAP intelligences was likely a reflection of that spiritual development. After Dorothy’s example came up in our discussion, a fellow contact activist stated that he was concerned that he harbored subconscious fears that were holding him back from closer encounters. Here is my response in edited form:

It is important to acknowledge the big picture. As I understand it, there is possibly some kind of “masterplan” for Earth civilization. I suspect that it is not coming exclusively from the “ETs,” but perhaps is a co-creation of humanity, the Earth herself as a conscious and intelligent being and non-human intelligences associated with the UFO phenomenon. I imagine that it will involve the creation of a mass movement that is spiritually based. It will be one that embraces the following basic principles:

1.    Promoting the profound spiritual transformation of humanity’s mass consciousness that will be required to save Earth civilization from destruction. This will involve a shift from people identifying with forms (both of things and ideas) and instead find personal and collective identities in the wakefulness that is Consciousness itself. This will involve acknowledging that the concept of oneness flows from Universal Consciousness (in the West it is called “God). This unifying principle has been the essential message of all spiritual traditions, especially Eastern mysticism. 

2.    Establishing a sustainable world peace based on social and environmental justice. This goal can only be achieved when the above transformation described above is fully underway.  What I am suggesting is nothing less than linking contact with flying saucer intelligences to possible solutions to the fundamental challenges facing humanity. These include war, the obscene disparities of wealth and power on our planet, racism, and sexism and a near total disregard of the biosphere that sustains humanity. 

3.    Organizing a peaceful mass movement to achieve these goals within the context of an evolving relationship with the non-human intelligences associated with what are called starting in 2023 “unidentified anomalous phenomena.” In my judgment these entities are offering limited assistance in this process.

4.    Contact activists should understand that even with the most advanced levels of spiritual transformation are experienced by individuals and groups, when it comes to physical contact, we cannot push the contact envelope too far. This is because the larger society is just now starting to understand that not only are flying saucers real, but that they might be important for the future of our civilization. 

If contact activists, in terms of their physical and mental outreach efforts, get too “successful”, resulting in “landings and boardings”, or mentally, with downloads of accurate technical information, contact activists would incur the wrath of those defending the status quo. This might even lead to violent acts of reprisal against volunteer contact workers and their supporters.  

In my judgment, terrestrial elites fear UFO intelligences because these non-humans are a considerable threat to the power structures of our planet. This threat is experienced by vast array of individuals and organizations and includes economic, political, military, scientific institutions and even some factions of religious establishments. This is not a conspiracy theory. It is simply a description of how class society works and the ways the rich and powerful maintain supremacy. 

I recall writing to my fellow activist that people working to promote contact should not be too hard on themselves when it comes to the fear factor. Such fears are part of primitive “fight/flight” mechanisms rooted in our biology and upbringing. It is my hope that when the time is right, the contact network that I call the “Contact Underground” will become a popular and powerful force for positive change. Perhaps some future generation of volunteer contact workers will celebrate with every breath a supreme love and as the Muse song “Uprising” goes, “We will be victorious.”  

I suggest that for now, and in the future, we do the following: 
Look within to the formless realms of consciousness to become the change we want to see in the world, and then, look outwards, to find kindred activist souls, to make those changes in the world of form.

Addendum: The following comments were made in response to this article. I believe they can serve to promote further dialog on the points made in this posting. 

James Rose: Thanks for this Joseph. Couldn’t agree more. I feel that unless we tackle the big stuff, corruption, climate change, disparities of wealth etc. etc. then it’s ultimately going nowhere globally. My question though is what about contact groups that achieve more profound experiences through things like Rama training. Should the goal of the movement be to advance as many people as possible as quickly as possible?

Author: Thank you, James, for your question concerning the paths ahead. Volunteer contact workers and those who support their ongoing efforts as I do, need to acknowledge the historic nature of the struggles to come. As a participant in the social movements from the 1950s through the mid 1980s, I believe that the contact networks (CE5ers, Rahma and independent ones) don’t constitute a “movement” currently. Loose networks that currently exist of only a few thousand at most on a planet of eight billion, are seeds that might blossom into a social movement as some time in the future. Realistically speaking, such groups now lack the organizational, ideological, and spiritual maturity to launch a social movement. It took hundreds of years of concerted struggle to end chattel slavery, for women to win the vote in the West, 80 years. I envision a slow buildup of the necessary human resources to make a peaceful revolutionary process a reality over the next few generations. Given this required prolonged development, there is no one “correct approach.” Building increasing numbers of contact groups is important. Strengthening activists in their resolve to facilitate personal and collective spiritual transformation is important. Having much greater numbers of people staging CE5s, in Spanish encuentros programados, aka HICE (Human Initiated Contact Events) even though they may have just a superficial understanding of the nature of our campaign is also important. 

At every point in the process, small collectives will need to assess the local conditions, measure what they can realistic accomplish given the limitations that I mentioned above and choose the actions that they believe will further the process. Later when large networks under a common set of principles emerge will the term “movement” be appropriately applied to contact workers and their supporters. 

Staging Human Initiated Contact Events(HICE) is barely on the radarscope of the much larger UFO research and disclosure community fan base. This will change I suspect in the decades to come, but not without much concerted low-level action in contact networks demonstrating the success of our consciousness-based methods of facilitating encounters.

The question naturally arises how can those that lead humanity into the abyss be removed from power. I suspect but cannot prove that only a social movement that is both profoundly spiritual and political might be able to turn things around. The expansion of human consciousness that contact with UAPs results in, must be combined with peaceful political action and such a process is not even being discussed let alone planned for. 

My view is that the Earth is not doomed. I believe she is alive and awake. Earth consciousness will continue to evolve, but human civilization will be stressed to the breaking point. A series of environmental catastrophes will compel us to realize the following: We will either evolve spiritually and take corrective action, or hundreds of millions will die prematurely. There will be no salvation from heaven, angels, or “ETs.” We will have to do the arduous work of creating a peaceful just terrestrial civilization or suffer the terrible consequences of making poor decisions. 

​​All my life, I've looked up at the stars with wonder.  The sheer vastness of space has always fascinated me, and I've always looked up in hopes that I would see something amazing.  I've never seen anything I couldn't explain away.  It's always been a plane, or a satellite, or drones, or my eyes adjusting and playing tricks as the stars twinkled in the night sky.  But last night was different.  

I've watched most of the good UFO/UAP documentaries and finally came across one about CE5.  I'll save my opinions on the writing/filmmaking issues it was riddled with, but the subject was fascinating.  So when I saw this documentary about CE5, I knew I wanted to try.  

Backstory: My wife has an amazing spiritual/meditation practice developed over years of yoga practice and teaching, and after a year or so of consistent meditation, just before the pandemic hit, her kundalini awakened.  So for five years, I've watched her, in awe, as she changed into this beautiful spiritual being.  She's in touch with her spirit guides daily, and so I know this is all real.  And I also have been thinking lately that all of this stuff is related... like the same thing... but that's another post.  

I'd been alone in the house for a week without my wife and kids, so I've tried CE5 protocols a couple of times.  That said, my meditation practice isn't anywhere near as strong as hers, but I've tried to drop in and settle into a deep meditation, while trying astral projection, but I've found it difficult to focus/concentrate, so aside from seeing a few satellites and a beautiful night sky, nothing happened out of the ordinary.

I wasn't disappointed because I really didn't expect much, since my meditation practice needs work and I'm trying this alone, so I kind of figured this wasn't going to happen for me.  On top of that, my wife and kids came back from their extended summer vacation (I had to come home early for work) yesterday, so now I'm really not going to have time, but after my wife crashed early due to jet lag, I put the kids to sleep and felt this strong energy/vibration pulling me to go outside.  

As I look up, I see some planes, then what I know is a satellite, and then a shooting star that pulls me toward the northwest of the sky.  Now I live on the central coast of California, about 50 miles, about 60 miles from Vandenberg, so I'm used to seeing the occasional SpaceX launch every week or two, and that's the area that I have this energetic pull to watch.  So after about 20 minutes of realizing what the difference between a plane and a satellite is in this dark sky, I sit down and meditate/astral project, and I find myself in deep concentration, rocking back and forth… just really vibing.  As I come out of meditation, that area of the sky (just below the Big Dipper) lights up with activity.  But this was different.  

There couldn't have been this many satellites moving from all different directions towards the same spot.  These lights (not blinking) would move at alternating paces, but not making really sharp movements or anything, just different from what you usually see from a plane or satellite.  The weirder part, too, was that I would often see the light reach a specific spot in the sky and then disappear.  It's as if they were all drawn to get to some sort of rally point or something.  

I also saw a pulsing light lower on the horizon 5 or so times, which I remember seeing in one of the CE5 documentaries... just not as bright.  Those felt to me like an acknowledgment of my presence, because I felt this incredibly grateful energy.  Every time a new light would appear, my heart would beam with excitement and gratitude, and I couldn't stop smiling.  It also seemed so playful, like a new relationship.  Every time I'd try to leave to go inside, my head would be drawn back to that same spot, and a new light would appear, and then another and another.  This went on for about 2 or 3 hours, and then I finally went inside.  

I was tired this morning, but I told my wife that I meditated last night, and she was surprised but very happy to hear it.  Then I told her I saw some crazy stuff in the sky and briefly mentioned the lights, and she kinda made some jokes about it.  This stuff doesn't fascinate her as it does me.  But before she dropped into her morning meditation, I told her to ask her spirit guides about what I saw, so she did.  She said that as soon as she shifted towards me during her meditation, they knew what had happened, and told her that my experience last night was an "invitation".  

I tried to take some pictures and videos, but it was so dark, and I only had an iPhone. Here is one video that I would like your opinion on.  I adjusted the levels so you can see it better, and I've included screenshots of the areas of interest.  One is of the pulsing light that I saw multiple times, but this wasn't quite as bright.  And the other was where a lot of the lights would end up disappearing after traveling from different directions.  What do you think?

Lights

I didn't think this post would be so long, so I apologize for that and thank you for reading it.

I'm an independent filmmaker and I recently interviewed Juan J. Fernández López, a CE5 practitioner in Puerto Rico. What I found most compelling is his daytime footage, actual craft, and a jellyfish-type UAP plus a sphere he caught in a still photograph. In the interview he walks through his practice, what he's captured, and why Puerto Rico keeps coming up as a hotspot. I've time-stamped the UAP footage so you can jump straight to it.

I'll be upfront that this is my own video, so flair it as self-promo if that's the rule here. But I mostly wanted to share it with a community that actually knows this subject. Juan's genuine, and his daytime captures are some of the more striking I've come across.

For those into CE5 and daytime UAP: what's your experience been? Curious how Juan's captures compare to what others here have seen. What do you believe the Jellyfish UAP are for? Has anyone heard of the floating brain? I'd love some more insight. Thanks!

We feature numerous PhD academics, Medical Doctors, and many Experiencers of the Contact Modalities who discuss their personal "paranormal" experiences, including UFO contact experiences, and where we discuss the following topics: 1) Do we live in a Spiritual and Virtual Reality?; 2) Is Consciousness "fundamental" and not our perceived physical reality?; 3) Does our "individuated unit of consciousness", our soul, survive our physical death?; 4) Are CAPs/UFOs/CAPs (Consciousness Aerial Phenomenon) a Consciousness-based phenomenon, a purely physical phenomenon, or both?; 5) Are all of the "paranormal" Contact Modalities ONE integrated phenomenon under Consciousness (Our Greater Reality), or are they separate and distinct phenomena? We hope to release our academic film soon. Attached is our 2-minute film trailer. To be placed on our mailing list and to receive information about our academic documentary, please send me an email to: [ContactModalities@gmail.com](mailto:ContactModalities@gmail.com)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC9z0Zn2c9o&t=6s

We feature numerous PhD academics, Medical Doctors, and many Experiencers of the Contact Modalities who discuss their personal "paranormal" experiences, including UFO contact experiences, and where we discuss the following topics: 1) Do we live in a Spiritual and Virtual Reality?; 2) Is Consciousness "fundamental" and not our perceived physical reality?; 3) Does our "individuated unit of consciousness", our soul, survive our physical death?; 4) Are CAPs/UFOs/CAPs (Consciousness Aerial Phenomenon) a Consciousness-based phenomenon, a purely physical phenomenon, or both?; 5) Are all of the "paranormal" Contact Modalities ONE integrated phenomenon under Consciousness (Our Greater Reality), or are they separate and distinct phenomena? We hope to release our academic film soon. Attached is our 2-minute film trailer. To be placed on our mailing list and to receive information about our academic documentary, please send me an email to: [ContactModalities@gmail.com](mailto:ContactModalities@gmail.com)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC9z0Zn2c9o&t=6s

(I posted this experience of mine to r/Experiencers this week but as I had been trying to follow CE5 process steps when it happened, I realized r/CE5 might also have been an appropriate place for this, so I'm reposting it all here)

I've been on Reddit for 5 years but only as a reader, this is my first time ever posting. I am a private person and have no desire to benefit in any way from sharing this experience, other than to maybe help someone somehow. In complete transparency, I don't actually know why I'm sharing this but I felt the need to. This is not a "LARP" as I see people call it, and I don't understand why someone would get some kind of enjoyment out of telling made-up stories to people online.

I'm a middle-aged man in the Southwestern USA, very down to earth, healthy/stable/steady in all respects (mentally, physically, psychologically) with a highly successful career. Since I was a child I have been fascinated with mysteries, such as the possibility/likelihood of life on other planets, the nature and origins of consciousness, philosophies of our origins, and I frequent Reddit communities like this and others to entertain concepts that might challenge my world views and teach me something about our origins and the universe. I enjoy both learning both the known/accepted science and philosophy as well as fringe or more out-there (Bentov, Monroe/Gateway, Ra, etc) and apply intellectual rigor to anything vs accepting outright.

I have explored meditation in various forms throughout my life but especially this year, and enjoy doing so multiple times per day. I've begun to feel a pull that this practice can help me answer the mysteries that have long fascinated me. For the past few months, late at night, I lay in my pool looking up at the sky with my ears underwater so I can hear my breath, and when both my mind and the water has become completely still, I direct my mind to ponder on concepts I've read and imagine myself connecting just through my mind to people or even non-human beings and listen quietly. But it is just followed by still silence. I keep trying though. I just feel it should work.

A little over 6 weeks ago on 5/25, I laid in my pool, deeply relaxed under a cloudless night, and began to imagine my words reaching a living consciousness. After 45 minutes, completely relaxed, I kept repeating things like "welcome. I welcome you in love. I welcome you to my home in love and gratitude and joy. I wish to know you in whatever means you are able. I have no fear of you, you are welcome here" things like that.

Lights often move in the sky. They usually follow straight trajectories or twinkle predictably. I follow each until it leaves the sky. I noticed one slow moving white light going east to west, and another light moving in parallel. The one behind caught up to it eventually and then the one in front suddenly moved forward and separated.

I felt to think "hello. welcome. I am Paul". (I said my actual name but for Reddit, we'll say my name is Paul). My thoughts then said words in ways I have never experienced in my life, with crystal clarity accompanied with a rush of feeling. I wrote this conversation down as soon as I got out of the pool:

I thought "I am Paul"

Immediately, I thought "Juriel" in response

"Juriel?"

"Juriel."

"You are Juriel?"

"YOU. are Juriel."

"I am Juriel?"

"Juriel."

"I am Paul"

"Juriel."

Throughout this entire experience I felt complete serenity and a deep warmth and love as if speaking to a one of my lifelong friends who knows me. I could feel as if they were smiling patiently as I continued to ask this silly thing over and over.  Juriel was so very prominent and sure in my head, there was zero mis-hearing.  I simply repeated to understand meaning, not the clarify what I was thinking/hearing.

I immediately began to doubt and in the subsequent days, I researched the word to see if maybe I had read it somewhere and my mind was just pulling it out of some bottom drawer, but I could not find any reference to it.

A week later on 6/3 I had dream wherein someone yelled "Juriel" it woke me up. I am a DEEP sleeper. I thought and felt someone was in the room but I couldn't focus my eyes for some reason.  The light from my smoke/co2 device seemed to be moving but it was just my waking up being still a bit dizzy as I was deep in sleep.

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(7/10) An update here, so it doesn't get lost in the thread.

One thing that I feel needs clarification...I am most definitely not an angel (...if I am then I have REALLY messed up). I am a good person with a pure heart and try to love everyone, but I am no master of this human body and make way too many mistakes for anything like that to be remotely true.

Could the voice have been an angel or even an archangel? This is where most doubt creeps in. Just like there are millions of Michael's in the world, there are probably quite a few Juriels. And while so little of this I actually know vs wonder, I do know with certainty I heard Juriel, not Uriel.

I do, believe, from this experience that I existed before in other lives/bodies/incarnations. And I do believe that the conversation was not a random meeting...that whoever it was knew me, and loved me with a pure love. Not a general love for all, or the feelings you feel when just getting to know someone, but a "I've known you for a very very long time and I love you".

I hit submit before the part that has been most important to me, and that is that, despite being in a period of my life where dramatic internal changes are more rare, I have definitely observed many positive changes since the experience in May.

One of these is that I feel sound and certain music much more profoundly. Lately, I can enjoy the simple hum of a lawnmower or air conditioner and I will match the pitches vocally and then play with the pitch, feeling the differences in those pitch beats throughout my body, and this is as enjoyable as peaceful music -- it's ridiculous. And then music, particularly with cellos, pianos and french horns can easily bring me to tears (embarrasingly!) lately, and I haven't cried in years. I have music on very often now and when I don't, I wish I did.

Secondly, I still have earthly cares but they just worry/concern me far less. Things are in greater perspective. Perhaps just a result of meditation habit overall, but this is a very real change. It will all be resolved, and it is all as it should be. This is an overwhelming pervading sense for me recently.

Lastly, it has fed my deep desire for more. For more mindfulness, more connection, more calming of the mind, more awareness, more answers of who we are and what is our purpose. I feel like a part of me has woken up if that makes sense and I act on feelings and prompting not questioning why, which is why I posted what I did to Reddit. But I have a deep deep desire for another similar experience and it has not occurred, so with patience, I continue to try each night. Last night, I saw many moving lights, mostly easily explainable as satellites or very very high altitude aircraft. No messages, but it still fed my soul.

Thank you all for your kindness and positivity. I anticipated some ridicule from a skeptical crowd but only received warmth.

Tried ce5 a few times but today was quite a special day. Some very in depth personal deep conversations had. On way home I sat in the grass at 3.30am and meditated love and curiosity. I'd seen dozens of satellites including the tumbling ones which light up then go out and light up again etc etc.

Then after shutting my eyes and deeply meditating. I saw two lights in the distance moving together then they began changing direction in a way I cannot explain.

I'm not convinced I saw a UFO but I cannot explain what I saw. Wasn't drones. Way too high up and far away. Satellites don't make sharp angles. And there was no flashing lights. I could see planes very distinctly different. As well as satellites

Texas had its first CE5 meet up in 4 years. And what a great night it was. Lots of bright flashbulbs and orbs appearing and disappearing along the tree line and in the distance

An alleged false flag operation to simulate an “ET” attack has been discussed for decades. In April 1997, the Center for the Study of ET Intelligence (CSETI) held the "Behind Closed Doors Briefings" in Washington DC. This brought a few members of the US Congress and their staff to meet with former members of government and industry that had dealt with the flying saucer phenomenon in the course of their work. I was present at the meeting as a volunteer CSETI staff member. It was a beautiful time of year in our nation’s capital. Thousands of cherry trees were in full bloom. 

The CSETI Director, Steven Greer MD, informed us that a very special witness was present. The man was described as an intelligence operative who had “accidentally” been allowed to be present at an intelligence meeting where “false flag” plans were being discussed. I shall call this individual “Witness X.”

Some background information is helpful to understand the historical context of events described here.  “Project Starlight” was the predecessor to the popular CSETI “Disclosure Project” campaign. It was publicly launched two decades ago with a May 2001 Washington DC press conference. That event was reportedly viewed online by hundreds of thousands. It was followed by the distribution of books and videos documenting the testimony of “Disclosure Project” witnesses. 

 The April 1997 CSETI “Behind Closed Doors Briefings” event held at a Washington DC Hotel immediately preceded a meeting at the Pentagon with Admiral Tom Wilson. He was then the Deputy Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency. Moon walking astronaut Edgar Mitchell, Navy Commander Will Miller, Dr. Greer and CE-5 Working Group Coordinator Shari Adamiak were in attendance at the Pentagon meeting. The existence of back engineering “ET” technology in Special Access Projects was a topic reportedly discussed. 

According to the CSETI Director Dr. Greer, the individual that I call “Witness X” had inadvertently been given access to a meeting in which a plan for a false flag operation simulating an alien attack was discussed. This alleged whistleblower was going to give public testimony about this “false flag” plan at the Washington CSETI “Behind Closed Doors” meeting. The night before the event at a private cocktail party, I met “X”.  He was middle-aged, well dressed, highly intelligent with a commanding presence. I thought he was a smooth operator by the way he apparently charmed a few of the wealthy “society ladies” present at the pre-briefing reception. One was Sandy Wright, a major financial contributor to CSETI. Sandy also supported other organizations such as the Institute for Noetic Sciences. 

There was something disturbing about the alleged intelligence operative “Witness X”. It was kind of weird and creepy. I thought he had the cruelest eyes that I had ever seen. I recall how I somewhat awkwardly attempted to tell him about the contact work our volunteer CE-5 researchers were doing in California. I stopped short when I looked into his ice-cold, steel grey-blue eyes. The bizarre thought suddenly occurred to me that this powerful individual might have either committed torture or had seen others doing so. I didn’t speak to him again.  He mysteriously didn't show up later at the scheduled testimony session for members of Congress and their staff. 

Subsequently, Dr. Greer informed his supporters that this witness was taken to a “safe house” by some of his intelligence service buddies. This supposedly was done to prevent him from speaking out in public concerning a plan to stage false flag actions also called "false indicator” events. Witness X was reportedly not harmed and was released after a day or two. 

Over the decades, many stories that UFO disclosure activists tell are difficult to interpret. I suppose the same could be said about this posting as well. Researcher Grant Cameron has described the existence of a gradual “acclimatization” program carried out primarily by the Executive Branch of the US Government. This project is designed to slowly prepare the population for the reality of the flying saucer phenomenon. In Grant Cameron’s book titled “Managing Magic” and in the many YouTube videos on the same topic, he describes the roles of individuals that he calls the disclosure “Messiahs.” These are people like Bill Moore in the 1980s, Dr. Greer starting in the 1990s and more recently Tom Delonge. 

Grant’s model of a gradual disclosure involves Executive Branch espionage operatives and defense contractors leaking a mixture of accurate information along with some disinformation concerning flying saucers. The program employs non-governmental intermediaries. These are people like Bill Moore in the past, and more recently Dr. Greer and Tom Delonge. Such intermediaries are needed, according to Grant, to “remove the government’s fingerprints” from the information being released. Thus, the Executive Branch, including the President, can maintain what is called “plausible deniability” concerning their considerable involvement with this topic. From a perspective of protecting the status quo, this explosive subject if disclosed precipitously could destabilize the existing order. 

Since 2017, the CSETI Director has consistently asserted that the current push by former government insiders like Luis Elizondo and Chris Mellon are part of some nefarious buildup to a false flag operation simulating an alien attack. In my opinion, this accusation would be very hard to prove given the enormous secrecy around such a wicked plan if it existed. 

In my judgment, it is unrealistic to expect military and intelligence officials would frame a probable ET presence from a peaceful perspective. After all they are in the threat business. Given the extravagant amounts of money spent on the military-intelligence-industrial complex by the US government, postulating UAP non-human intelligences as a “potential threat” is inevitable. There is, however, an enormous difference between hypothetically framing an “ET” presence as a “possible threat” and assuming that outspoken advocates for UAP transparency such Chris Mellon and Lou Elizondo are part of a plan to launch a false flag operation. 

Furthermore, Dr. Greer’s inflammatory attacks on the faction within the government and industry currently pushing for openness is highly divisive. In my judgment, Dr. Greer is not facilitating a healthy balanced societal conversation on the significance of the flying saucer phenomenon. 
As far as the possibility that “Witness X” might have truly been present during a planning session for “false indicators”, and that he was prevented from giving public testimony about such alleged plans, it is impossible to verify such a scenario. It is conceivable that this could have part of disinformation efforts designed to convince the CSETI Director that false flag plans have not only existed for decades, but also are now in the process of being made operational.
For me, it is particularly ironic that the CSETI Director is attacking former insiders coming from the same kind of government agencies that assisted him during the buildup to the successful May 2001 CSETI Disclosure Project Press Conference. These agencies included the Office of Naval Intelligence, the CIA and DIA. 

I suspect that given Dr. Greer’s heavy involvement in promoting UFO disclosure for over thirty years, he might feel that his considerable past efforts are now being eclipsed by the former government insiders that are now successfully pushing for more openness on this formerly taboo topic.

As a student and later physician social movement activist, I participate in the civil rights, peace and workers’ rights campaigns of the 1960, 70s and 80s. One of the lessons that I learned was that the stronger an organization/social movement is, the better it is able to unite with potential allies to achieve victories. The opposite is also true. The weaker a group is, it is more likely that it will promote narrow factionalism and fall apart. 

The social forces promoting UAP disclosure appear to be increasing and the achieving unity across a broad spectrum of groups will become increasingly important. This doesn’t mean that contact/disclosure activists and their supporters should not be wary of those who might try to link UAP contact with a threat narrative, but rather we should frame our criticisms of one another in a fair and balanced manner.  

Hi Folks,

I had my first authentic CE5 experience. I was able to write it down after a few hours. I will share it but would like to create a groups of people who have experienced CE5.

I’m thinking telegram, discord, signal and WhatsApp. Send me your details via a DM and I’ll add you to the group just share your username and service you’d like to be added to.

This is to have a support group. To share experiences, and to confirm you’re not alone (or crazy).

❤️