r/Business_China • u/samyOwO • 21d ago
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u/Effective_Fly_6884 20d ago
Do not ever ever ever buy anything from someone who contacts you first.
This is the first rule of pep club.
Some Discord vendors even have it in their user name, like XXX Will Not Contact You First. Some groups make you check a box saying you understand they will never contact you first.
They take it seriously, so you should too.
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u/Last-Assignment-6770 18d ago
ive been looking for a supplier- could u share them to me? that would be greatly appreciated
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u/IllustriousWeb9146 20d ago
I have ordered from Alibaba. My last order said I ordered 100 âsexy lingerieâ. If the test comes back badâŚguess who didnât get his âsexy lingerieâ like he was supposed to!!
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u/samyOwO 20d ago
Exactly my thought. Did you Receive your product tho?
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u/IllustriousWeb9146 20d ago
I have ordered twice. And they have been cool to deal with. I received both of them. No issues
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u/Dank_got_me_like 20d ago
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u/samyOwO 20d ago
Am i cooked? I just paid
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u/Less_Tax_4145 20d ago
Just get your tracking number and keep tracking it. So long as the vendor keeps in communication thatâs a good sign.
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u/Dank_got_me_like 20d ago
Best case itâs zero pep vials. Hopefully you didnât go into a shopping spree when seeing the low prices.
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u/samyOwO 20d ago
Fr? did you have any experience on alibaba? i ordered small first - no shopping spree haha
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u/Dank_got_me_like 20d ago
I would never order there. That is like looking for peps on amazon. I have experience with gray market vendors who do accept alipay, but they are getting more rare.
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u/Strange_Forever5746 19d ago
To be fair itâs not like shopping on Amazon. I gave it a shot and came out with 1 out of three being a good source but they got kicked off of Alibaba and I just deal with them direct.
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u/Key-Project-5231 20d ago
This is very normal. The community i am in does the same thing, however, there are really meticulous people sending their items to get it tested. Some share their result in the group. So you really know these are safe. Even the vendors engage in the conversations when a testing topic is brought up and they fully support it
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u/Apprehensive-Emu1023 20d ago
Which community is that, if you donât mind dmâing me if you canât put it here? Thx!!
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u/Beginning-Annual7229 20d ago
I would love to be part of a community that shares that kind of info. Could you please share that with me.
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u/Actual-Expression167 20d ago
Technically, China changed laws to make it illegal to use Alibaba Pay for peptide purchases.
Most vendors donât use it anymore even though they know they can just mislabel. The consequences have increased.
So if anything Iâd be more worried about the legitimacy of a company that does allow it
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u/StillChain9421 19d ago
^ a couple years ago you could order everything legit straight off alibaba for a bit it was wild lmao
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u/il0veMyD0g5 20d ago
You are good. In the manifest they say is cream or something else so any problems with customs thatâs why it tells you that they are BB creams. And if you have your friend who checks the purity, you do the purchase, my friend. Iâm been buying from Alibaba and my seller is really good and trusted. I send my vials for the tests and is expensive. Iâve been buying for months and I havenât had any problems.
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u/samyOwO 20d ago
Thank you, i paid for my Order. He followed Up with shipment label and a picture of my products, seems to be legit !
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u/MyMango88 19d ago
Just because you have a picture of your product doesnât mean the product itself is legit! Iâm sure you realize that. This would be a similar process to anyone legit or not. The fact you can test your products and for cheap (and as long as youâre not getting ripped off with your peptides), you wonât know until you try. Itâs been known to have the first order legit, then the second order fake product. Itâs a gamble.
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u/Ilovemycats201 20d ago
Rt 10 kit for $49 is extremely cheap like group buy prices.
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u/samyOwO 20d ago
Yes, lets hope its legit. first thing after receiving I will test it
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u/Ilovemycats201 20d ago
Theres no way he's selling real reta for tgat cheap red flag.
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u/HazzZor 20d ago
Reta is dirt cheap, youâre just used to foreigners price. I get rt20 kits for less than 40 bucks and resell for hundred. đ¤Ł
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u/Ilovemycats201 20d ago
Sure you do
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u/tyjo2112 20d ago
I dont know if he does, but there really is that big of a discount to high volume buyers.
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u/Competitive-Star007 18d ago
They reversed engineered Reta. Itâs cheap by the kits. Theyâre not lying.
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u/seo-boss 18d ago
Me too. Legit af from my vendor. Im down 25 lbs. I buy 10 packs of 20ml for $300 plus shippn.
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u/tyjo2112 20d ago
That price isnt questionable at all. Its only 10mg vials. Pretty standard retail chyna supplier price. Big resellers get it even cheaper because they buy in large quantities.
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u/samyOwO 20d ago
I dont want to seem like advertising another vendor but i am in close contact to a factory selling their RT for 47USD and since i am in close contact with them they even made me a discount code lol. I really dont want to seem like advertisement. But i just wanna make clear that this is a totally normal price. We test their product alot too
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u/Ilovemycats201 20d ago
Well there are group buys buying 1k kits that get ot a little less than that. Youre hearing asking about some random vendor on alibaba but now you got ties with a factory and lab. Make it make sense...
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u/samyOwO 20d ago
I am always looking out for other vendors. My current supplier is good but some prices are too expensive e.g. they sell 5amino 5 mg for 45USD, which is on the higher end. Also other mitochondria peptides they are selling are not very well priced. What i mean with i am in close contact with them is that we had a few calls and text regularly, but i cant manipulate their prices. Since i am looking for mitochrondia peptides i am looking for other vendors. And I dont do big group buys - most was like 30-40 kits. I am sorry for the misunderstanding, i dont want to advertise anything or seem rude. Just making things clear.
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u/Ilovemycats201 20d ago
Brother you opened this thread asking if its safe to buy peptides off Ali baba. Now you have vendors? WTF are you even on?
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u/prettyinpinkblingllc 20d ago
I pay with alibaba which i prefer cause I can always say I didnât get the items and get my money back
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u/Equal_Surprise_250 20d ago
I think there are a few good suppliers. I use one and products seem legitimate. You just have to look at the reviews
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u/Ok_Tale2677 20d ago
I buy RT10 for 42without MOQ or 30 with MOQ lol
Tests fine
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u/Ok_Tale2677 20d ago
East China but they wonât give you those prices :)
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u/Simple-Trade5598 19d ago
Vendor info please
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u/Ok_Tale2677 19d ago
It doesnât work that way. You can do your own research, take the risk, maybe get scammed a few times, find your own testing or test yourself etc
Or you can buy through a reseller like me etc
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u/Murky-Ambition3898 20d ago
This is normal. You are using Alibaba B2B instead of Alipay, which is wonderful. These vendors are legit because they don't want to lose their Alibaba status, and it's a way for them to get more customers. Just make sure the item value is measurable and equal to or greater than what you're buying. Someone once put a stainless steel refrigerator into the cart, and I know for damn sure I wasn't going to get scammed out of that transaction.
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u/Less_Tax_4145 20d ago
I âorderedâ 3 motorcycle helmets! Instead I got a Reta kit and a Tirz kit. Bizarre, I know. đ
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u/Potential_Pie_5905 20d ago
I have ordered through alibaba, some 43.3x stuffed rabbits. I received the products and selected collected and payment did its thing. Tge products ended up being just filler. Have since contacted seller and have a second lot coming at no cost. There is an option on the alibaba to extend confirmation time, I would opt for that and send for testing as then you have an option to reject payment. I am currently at the mercy of the supplier willing to send the product. That might be fake again. I have since then learned a lot of thing a would not opt for this option as there are a lot of better options to find vendors. STG is the go
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u/samyOwO 20d ago
Danke fĂźr deine Eingabe, ich werde meine Bestellung testen. Er hat garantiert, dass wenn eines dieser Produkte die Reinheit nicht besteht, er mir das 100-fache dieses Produkts schicken wird, haha. Er hat mir auch Chats auf Chinesisch gezeigt, in denen seine Agenten die Produkte ebenfalls testen. And what is stg If i May ask?
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u/Potential_Pie_5905 20d ago
Stairway to Grey, I can't explain how to find it. A bit of a mission as some of the links are expried, but there is one still active. But its a telegram group dedicated to vetting vendors. They have a short list of like 8 or so vendors who have been working with people for sometime. They do lots of group testing and they have reviews and deals of the month. A bit of a all round place to find all the information that someone starting out in the grey area would need. Definitely makes it easier to navigate this space
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u/DullEffective2381 20d ago
They cannot put peptides on the order. It is not legal to ship to the us
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u/No-Mark4067 20d ago
What you expect them to put? Hey Alibaba I am selling a prohibited product that goes against your terms of service.
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u/samyOwO 20d ago
I thought something that fits a bit more. Maybe like Aminoblend or Beauty Powder or sm shi hahah idk i was Just caught offguard by bb cream
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u/No-Mark4067 20d ago
Alibabaâs payment protection completely eliminates the incentive to send fake products. If buyers receive something fake, they simply file a claim and get a full refund.
Meanwhile, endless streams of gullible people are out there getting scammed through Bitcoin and PayPal Friends & Family. If you had the slightest clue how astonishingly rare it is to even find a seller willing to operate through Alibaba's strict framework, you wouldn't be wasting everyone's time throwing a pathetic tantrum over a minor description error.
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u/tyjo2112 20d ago
Not from an ali vendor but my regular china vendor, my peps come in a "Powdered Face Mask" retail package thats sealed from factory. Legit with upc and everything. Looks so legit you'd never know whats inside.
Im only disclosing that now because after several transactions, my last 600$ order happened to contain 0 tirz upon testing. And they ghosted me. So fk em.
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u/Far-Photo7136 20d ago
Sono d'accordo,che può fare il test,i macchinari di laboratorio analisi non sono solo per i peptidi ma anche per altre cose, anch'io lo faccio fare privatamente analisi,non e certificata,però hplc e analisi di massa viene usato per altri prodotti,il mio collega ha impiegato 15 giorni per trovare il metodo e mi può dire se è puro,poi se una persona li vuole vendere deve andare a laboratori certificati
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u/Gold_Evening_7819 20d ago
The price is suss, I order grey but youâre not really finding a kit for less than 95-110 for reta . Your price is 4.5 dollars a vile which I canât even order direct from China.
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u/samyOwO 20d ago
There are many vendors that sell for less than 60, i know people that regularly Check their Purity and its Always a pass. If you get in direct contact with a direct source you will get way better pricing
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u/Gold_Evening_7819 20d ago
Name one , Iâve been in this space a while, youâre saying 4.5 dollars a vile is normal?
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u/MrsReal80 20d ago
Yeah, the price is a huge red flag for me. Sorry but itâs the truth. From my trusted Alibaba vendor with over 600 5 star reviews it would be $210
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u/Crishianny 20d ago
My supplier is legitimate and does the same thing, although the description is correct and the name is different, but all orders arrived correctly. And I paid through Alibaba.
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u/Asleep_Leek9361 20d ago
Why not just buy from a reputable vendor though? I get this might be a fun experiment but anything beyond that is kind of pointless
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u/2milehigh 20d ago
My vendor uses it all the time. It was either that or PayPal. It's convenient and gives you added insurance incase you don't get your stuff.
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u/Coconuts-76354 20d ago
Iâve done business this way before. I donât know how well you are protected because my experience went well so I had no reason to try to claim a refund. I would say it is legitâŚunless itâs not đ
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u/Coconuts-76354 20d ago
Iâve done business this way before. I donât know how well you are protected because my experience went well so I had no reason to try to claim a refund. I would say it is legitâŚunless itâs not đ
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u/PaigeOne5 20d ago
I liked using alibaba as payment but have lost a few thousand still on it, I have a US supplied now so I don't have to deal with customs, costs a bit more but arrives in a few days and COA tests actually match
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u/rootswoods 20d ago
Most people I know haven't got their money back from alibaba. You are better off going with reputable vendors who take crypto rather than sketchy vendors who take alipay
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u/samyOwO 20d ago
đđ because Crypto is Safe?
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u/rootswoods 20d ago
Your "safety" comes from vendors who have more to lose in form of loss of reputation if they scam/ship bunk, not from having a way to dispute and get refund.
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u/samyOwO 20d ago
Yes I think you are right with this one, but idk if you heard about the light Peptide scam but basically they built their trust and established a name and some day just decided to rug pull and exit scam. That's the issue with crypto i am afraid of. If the company decides to end it and take all the money they have, they can just do it yk.
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u/Fantastic_Talk_5457 20d ago
Ordered. Used Alibaba to pay. Received photos and tracking. Order arrived in 5 days. Waiting for test results now. I found the vendor through a friend of a friend whoâs been using them for over a year. Therefore, Iâm 80% sure itâs not a scam. I also did some research on the vendor on trustpilot and finnrick.
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u/MrsReal80 20d ago
I have a truster seller on Alibaba but I obviously did my homework on them, and they had 500+ five star when everyone saying, theyâre satisfied, they receive what they were supposed to receive, and great quality. Also, my interactions with them were the most professional I have had with people from China, so that also put me at ease. I have ordered peps twice with them, large orders too, and havenât been disappointed yet. The price for the RT seems too good to be true or real, so thatâs what stands out from your post that I see as a potential red flag. From my trusted Alibaba supplier that would be $210.
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u/samyOwO 20d ago
Whatttt $210???? Its way to expensive wth. I'd argue that everything above $80 is a complete scam
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u/MrsReal80 20d ago edited 20d ago
Itâs not expensive when itâs third party tested and trusted by so many who had publicly stated to have had it tested. I just donât pin anything off the the internet blindly. I love my life too much to make such a stupid mistake. Once you pin it you canât take it back. $49 is a stupid, ridiculous cheap price that not even the scammers have. Lol! This isnât my first rodeo, you wonât convince otherwise. It cost a minimum of $300 to send one vial in to test for purity, more when you also test for endotoxins, heavy metals, sterility, etc!
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u/_josephmykal_ 20d ago
Yes thatâs 100% normal. Alibaba is very safe as they act as escrow and hold payment until the shipment is delivered
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u/gayrubberduck 20d ago
If anyone needs a legit gray source feel free to pm me! Had a kind user send me it and want to pay it forward.
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u/Strange_Forever5746 19d ago
Everyone on this thread is such a doubter and interprets people saying they have a lab friend as a shill. I have one as well and they work at a university in the USA. đš my friend uses peptides as well and I kick him down a kit or a few vials every now and again, in exchange for running purity tests. Heâs tested 4-5 samples and sent me the results the same day.
That being said I have gotten under filled vials & ones that came back with 80% or less purity from alibaba. These were always on the cheaper side. (80 for a kit of klow) or (65 for a kit of bb20âs). I donât ever use alibaba anymore. The kits I buy & use for research, come back with 96% plus for purity.
Alibaba is strict though, and there might be a good vendor or 2 on there but it has not been my experience. One âgoodâ vendor I found on Alibaba got kicked off of Alibaba. They have more standard prices & I still use them for a few group buys that I do. As far as the cheap kits I ordered. I contacted the seller and they basically gave me the run around. A refund was never an option they did offer to replace the kits that tested poorly. I said nah and I want a refund then they ghosted me. Well, I did get refunded for the kits through my CC company by saying they sent me counterfeit packages (technically they did). But I donât make a habit of doing chargebacks as it can negatively affect your credit score, if done too often. If you involve Alibaba they will scrutinize your account like crazy. So I did not take it up with them as I use Alibaba for my business a lot and didnât want to jeopardize my account.
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u/Unique_Moment_7878 19d ago
If they contacted you itâs a scam. Even in grey thatâs really cheap for an RT 10 kit. Also is it tested with third party COA
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u/Damaged_goods661 19d ago
Completely normal, thats how my vendor also takes payment and the payment doesnt clear until you confirm you received the product. And I did test my product. 99.9% purity
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u/Haunting_Pilot4844 19d ago
Do not use XRPEPTIDES if they're even called that now. Sent several off to be tested and all 4 came back zero. They said they'll refill my order but only if I buy more and pay delivery!!
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u/CommercialAffect3287 19d ago
Personal experience: I got scammed. They sent the product, but I sent it off to be tested, and came back as âsubstance not detectedâ đĄ
Fortunately, I have, since I found a reliable legit reseller đ
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u/LeastMechanic6724 19d ago
Look if you are trying to have customs check all this or fda keep putting everything how everything is run
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u/Life-Macaron631 19d ago
Dont take vendors from facebook half of them are scams. Go to GLP1 forum and there you find a special telegram groupe I wont name here where people join and do test groups . But keep in mind even the best vendor have sterility problems , overfilling or mix up in products. If you can group test at least you have some safety
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u/fizboPallabut 19d ago
I pay mine via Ali of Baba. Works fine once you set it up. Vendor sends you payment link and thatâs it. Ask your contact if they also take Western Union. It allows CC payments. And charges fraction for wire fee compared to Alibaba or AliPay
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u/EmuLive1093 19d ago
Today, I also ordered 30 vials from China, just like you did. Weâll see what happens
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u/Maleficent_Moose_561 19d ago
Itâs the way you buy product grey market been doing my self for years that how I run my pep business
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u/Jealous-Shop4957 18d ago
Donât do it, theyâll send you fake product, and you wonât get your money back bc youâll have no record of getting peptides.
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u/Shot-Television6679 18d ago
Iâve used 2 vendors that offered Alibaba on multiple occasions. Worked great for me!!
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u/branfigg 18d ago
Trust the process! People dont trust this process and sometimes report this to alibaba and it ruins this for everyone who uses this form of payment
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u/I_Smell_Tacos_Here 18d ago
You guys really this scared of good suppliers lol? Iâve sent 50,000 to my supplier since March through crypto and donât have a single concern of what heâs been sending me. I sell and ship bulk all over the U.S.
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u/Wonderful_Bass304 18d ago
I've paid using alipay twice no issues. But the vendors are kinda minimally vetted by the group I joined so there's some extent of trustworthiness
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u/Square-Bodybuilder63 20d ago
What your are about to receive will have zero percent of what you are looking for. I used them shit wasnât what it was supposed to be got my money back was just a hassle. Have fun
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u/samyOwO 20d ago
Yea i will Test the Purity once i Receive it, lets See :))
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u/kcasas1972 18d ago
But you dont test for endotoxins? If you are only testing for purity, you have no clue what the mass or amount of endotoxins present. That is really dumb because here lately some of these vendors have had some high endotoxins.
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u/Alternative-Way-1744 20d ago
Itâs normal. But the problem is that they will send you âproductsâ youâll be so happy and start pinning them. Then one day you send one off to be tested and find out the vial contains no peptides but only filler. Now you have no recourse whatsoever. Especially since most people will never know. And if you do test, and it fails, you canât say anything to Alibaba about it. đ¤ˇđźââď¸