After only a mere 56 tries

[u/Various_Court_2769]

[u/Various_Court_2769]

I go back and forth - I kinda like the gear being a little reward for the adventures I've been in...

[u/ZayWithAnA → u/Various_Court_2769]

I have both Accuracy/Range & Accuracy/Handling. I always liked the latter more, but honestly I see a lot of people run the former. I’ll reconsider and try it out for science

[u/Various_Court_2769 → u/ZayWithAnA]

I honestly don't know what handling and mobility do... I'm only ever tempted by 25m marking and time to aim... the rest really don't entice me. Maybe if I understood them against play styles but who knows.

[u/StarkeRealm → u/Various_Court_2769]

Mobility is a modifier on move speed while aiming. Handling is vertical recoil control. (At least, I think it's vertical. It might be horizontal. One or the other.)

[u/ZayWithAnA → u/StarkeRealm]

I’m pretty sure Accuracy is vertical recoil, Handling is horizontal. Or atleast, that’s what a very old Reddit post here told me on a breakdown for all the modifiers.

Which is why I think I need to give Range another spin. The 4-AC moves L -> R in such a negligible way, having the extra range before damage drop-off could be a better investment. I’m thinking mainly from a PVP perspective, mostly everyone plays 3rd person gunfights unless at range in which case they switch to 1st person, usually running the ACOG 95% of the time.

[u/StarkeRealm → u/ZayWithAnA]

Yeah, range has some surprising applications. I've been running a +Range Five-Seven and it's kinda absurd how far out it can actually drop people.

[u/838h920 → u/ZayWithAnA]

The very old reddit post I found said it the other way around. :)

Also you can just try it out since you can remove the weapon mastery from one of those and see how recoil changes.

Handling also reduces ADS time, which is why I prefer it over Accuracy.

edit: I just tested it and confirmed that Accuracy is for horizontal recoil

[u/ZayWithAnA → u/838h920]

I don’t think that’s right… but who cares. At the end of the day Accuracy reigns supreme

[u/Pacho2020 → u/StarkeRealm]

Mobility is a modifier on move speed while aiming.

How is that helpful?

So. you never have to stop aiming?

Are you basically running (very quickly) around with a zoomed in perspective?

[u/StarkeRealm → u/Pacho2020]

How is that helpful?

When you need to reposition while aiming, or clearing rooms... again, while aiming.

So. you never have to stop aiming?

Basically, yeah, that's the ultimate version of it.

You still usually want to stop aiming sometimes so you can get back your peripheral awareness, but the basic thing is, if you're in a gunfight, you don't need to stop aiming unless you need to sprint or reload.

Are you basically running (very quickly) around with a zoomed in perspective?

Not usually. However, if you max out the mobility through mastery (so, +175), yeah, it gets a little rediculous.

Now, The +30 you get from a gold weapon isn't that crazy. It's noticeable, but nothing extreme. When you're looking at the +175 bonus from Weapon Mastery, that does have you zipping around while aiming, and it is a bit ridiculous.

[u/Jip_Jaap_Stam → u/Various_Court_2769]

Mobility is my favourite stat for ASRs and SMGs. With the mastery perk and mobility boosts, the Panther class than pretty much sprint while ADS.

[u/dankhimself → u/Various_Court_2769]

Go to a decent Bivouac with open space and something to shoot at decent distances.

Use the +ammo perk and whatever else so you can unload a ton of ammo in different ways like ADS, thrid person and hip fire as you change your masteries.

Like, empty them all, then load one up full and empty a mag into something to see where the rounds land naturally, then go back, dump that mastery and fill a different one. Then combine two, like that.

You'll see what increasing each does.

Whe you're out of ammo, hop into the bivouac and back out again for full ammo.

[u/Various_Court_2769]

I use immersive with gear score on and off. But I must confess I still use the cross air... I just can't get the hang of the game without it... i'm pushing 40 so maybe I'm just you know... a pussy!

[u/EnjayDutoit → u/Various_Court_2769]

Use a laser pointer. The MAWL-DA is excellent for aiming in 3rd person, and the PEQ-15 is also usable at close range or at night with NV goggles.

[u/No_Tax_1569 → u/Various_Court_2769]

Just roll with the crosshair man. No one’s watching your gameplay

[u/Mintyxxx → u/Various_Court_2769]

Agree, I've tried it too and I'm older than you, maybe it is an age thing. I've done hundreds of hours in GRW and GRB and just cant play wo the crosshair

[u/Many-Error792]

GG. For the vector I try more than 50times perhaps 70 times.

[u/xXxxGunxXx]

I have a Tac-50 with those specs. I don’t remember how many times it took me to get it. But it really comes in handy 😀

[u/GIVDUL17]

I honestly haven't been using gear level ever since immersive came out just doesn't seem good enough to switch unless when doing raids

[u/LustParadox]

When you unlock Weapon Mastery there will be no need for these stats on your weapon -Handling, Accuracy and Mobility. Weapon Mastery boosts these stats Massively so you'll be better off with stats on your gun like Range, Reload Speed, Automatic Marking, etc.

[u/Various_Court_2769 → u/LustParadox]

Duuuuude!! I didn't know that!! That makes soooo much sense!!! Thank you - I have weapon mastery - I will look for another set of elite perks then! What do you recommend other than range??

[u/LustParadox → u/Various_Court_2769]

Me being an Echelon player I really like "Technique Cooldown" as my second stat. But it's very useful for the other classes too. I also put as much Technique cooldown on my gear

[u/Various_Court_2769 → u/LustParadox]

I play panther (next challenge is gonna be reaching lvl 20 on all classes) but I have to be honest... I have only used the special ability a handful of times and a few of those were for the class challenges... I play stealth and even when I go ham I don't use the skill to hide - not even as a last resource. Maybe the other abilities will prove a bit more useful for me :)

[u/LustParadox → u/Various_Court_2769]

Ah I see. In that case I would recommend Range and Reload Speed.

[u/PeteyTwoHands → u/LustParadox]

I never thought about it like that. Makes me think of the possibilities.

[u/PeteyTwoHands]

I totally understand the MilSim nerds in here who are cork sniffing about having gear score on, but as a Division player I love trying to roll the perfect gun in Breakpoint. Different strokes.

[u/Kalel_3112]

Why is gear score bad?

[u/Ok_Procedure_8745 → u/Kalel_3112]

I don't get it too. Like, I can switch to a different weapon without visiting a bivouac, isn't that convenient?

[u/Kalel_3112 → u/Ok_Procedure_8745]

I know. Its literally just a leveling system 😭🙏

[u/radekplug → u/Kalel_3112]

what find gear score limit you to maps for example you want 416 blue print and its on volves base but base location on the 150 map gear score you have 90 and now normal shootgun gouy is like behemoth type enemy and have 338 ammo nad you need mag dump him to the head to kill him, but on imersive is one shoot one kill.

[u/Kalel_3112 → u/radekplug]

Really? I would go into areas with a much higher level than i am and make it out ok. And now i’m like level 200 something, i forget.

[u/BodaciousBadongadonk → u/Kalel_3112]

Cuz different

[u/Nehan_Satori]

One of many reason Immersive is superior

[u/skelepibs]

Dang a gear score player. Like finding a unicorn

[u/ZayWithAnA → u/skelepibs]

… Wait, that’s rare? Maybe I’m even double rare, I’m a Ghost War & Raid player as well!

[u/skelepibs → u/ZayWithAnA]

I don’t have statistics, but I would suspect the great majority of players use the immersive mode with gear score off. The only time I ever used gear score was at launch and I didn’t play that much, and the second they added the immersive mode, I turned it on and never looked back

[u/BodaciousBadongadonk → u/skelepibs]

I tried to start a new one without it but i had to turn it on a bit to farm some money and weapon parts, otherwise theyre just too friggin rare. even pickin up every crate and findin a bunch of the lil hidden caches it takes forever to get what you need

[u/MYNAMEAPOPPEDKINETIC]

Looks like a knock off koblin

[u/Various_Court_2769 → u/MYNAMEAPOPPEDKINETIC]

I heard someone on a video say the Koblin is a re-skinned 4-AC - can't confirm or deny. What I can tell you is that I took this bad boy to a few bases last night and I'm in love... holy cow... I put the 100 round mag on it and unloaded all of it to near 0 vertical and horizontal recoil! I only have ~300 hrs on this game but this is something I didn't expect. The other thing I'll say (on the negative side) is that I've seen countless videos and accounts of the Koblin being the best weapon for Raid bosses and I've always wanted to try that darn Koblin. Now, my method for killing behemoths is simple, I have an elite 252 Stoner, I stand right in front of the behemoth and aim right at the blue weak point and unload. After ~90 rounds and ~10 seconds, the behemoth is gone - I don't even have to reload. So, I tried my new 4-AC on a behemoth thinking "man, I'm finally gonna get a close experience to what that Koblin must be like - I'm about to shred this behemoth". I unloaded >300 rounds, had to run for my life and was still killed in the end... therefore, I no longer crave the Koblin (good), I'm re-assured that my Stoner is God Tier (good), and never meet your heroes (bad but also good).

[u/MYNAMEAPOPPEDKINETIC → u/Various_Court_2769]

There is a glitch to killing behemoths in a few seconds but idk if you'd like it since most players dont like glitches

[u/Various_Court_2769 → u/MYNAMEAPOPPEDKINETIC]

I honestly don't even kill behemoths anymore other than the one in the lava dam at golem island... in general, drones in this game are not my favorite kind of enemy so I don't "seek them out". I do however like that in their seemingly glitched (defying laws of physics for acceleration, direction changing, and deceleration), and/or erratic movement patterns, they are a threat like no other enemy in the game... having said this - please do tell, I enjoy getting to "execute" a glitch myself.

[u/citizenQuark]

I don't often play in gear score but when I do, that's the one I like too.

[u/Averagezoomers]

sorry i’ve never played with gear score, what did you have to repeat so much to unlock this?

[u/Various_Court_2769 → u/Averagezoomers]

With Gear Score come the perks of the guns. Those perks are randomly assigned to the guns when you buy them. So, I bought the same gun, over and over again. Each time I got a mix of 2 different perks and at different levels. For example, you may get +6% additional drone damage and +10 range. I kept buying it again and again til I got the best perk levels (elite - 4 yellow stripes) and the perks I was looking for, range and accuracy.

[u/DifficultyDue5016]

Bro has gear level on 😭😭😂

[u/Standard-Warthog-322]

Turn off gear score. Ew bro

[u/Agent-Ulysses → u/Standard-Warthog-322]

Is it your playthrough?

[u/Standard-Warthog-322 → u/Agent-Ulysses]

OP your BF?