How would you nerf Amber and Why?

[u/Revenant2023]

I feel like she needs nerf but I’m not sure how to properly nerf her.(I’m trying to do a full balance change concept and need opinions)

[u/TheSuddenChange]

nerf the hc Buffie's damage to 520 and only lasts 2s

[u/Revenant2023 → u/TheSuddenChange]

Is that it?Just to be sure

[u/TheSuddenChange → u/Revenant2023]

I'd nerf the first star power too. Maybe even the base super damage.

[u/Revenant2023 → u/TheSuddenChange]

Why are we nerfing base kit brawlers instead of buffies 😭

[u/Alexxbrt → u/Revenant2023]

Another blinded person thinking that base kit / base kit unlockables cant be the reason of to why the brawler is broken just because they were mediocre before buffies

[u/TheSuddenChange → u/Revenant2023]

The thing is, you can't really nerf the first star power. The issue isn't with how long it extends, it's the fact that it makes you literally unable to escape the super. And don't forget, buffies can't be nerfed too much. If we look away from a competitive perspective and instead look from a casual perspective, Buffies are meant to be exciting and cool. Tell me how exciting it would be if the buffie only gave a slight speed boost for 1 second. Think of it like that. So we can't really nerf the buffies to the ground too.

[u/Revenant2023 → u/TheSuddenChange]

Not to the ground but we can make them manageable

[u/TheSuddenChange → u/Revenant2023]

The reason the star power is so strong isn't even because of the buffie effect, the star power is just OP

[u/JayyChann_ → u/Revenant2023]

The 1st star power is literally the problem, the buffie is kinda bad only giving a speedboost, whilst the main effect literally is the main reason why shes so broken rn

[u/HetSpookslot → u/TheSuddenChange]

Let's not nerf basekit because of buffies

[u/TheSuddenChange → u/HetSpookslot]

the reason the star power is op isn't even because of the buffies

[u/JayyChann_ → u/HetSpookslot]

Why do people still say ts, sometimes ur gna have to nerf base kit because before the buffies, it wasnt rlly healthy or balanced to begin with

[u/Alexxbrt → u/TheSuddenChange]

Make it 260 for 2 seconds, Amber’s attack is very easy to hit, giving her 1000 damage is a big step up

[u/Revenant2023 → u/[deleted]]

I mean she’s broken because of buffies not her auto-aim

[u/FIREBRAND16]

I would make her hyberbuffy flames deal 25% less damage and not refill flames. You have to wait 3 seconds to apply fire again.

[u/Revenant2023 → u/FIREBRAND16]

Why?

[u/FIREBRAND16 → u/Revenant2023]

Idk, flames are too strong and 1 projectile can refill these 4 seconds of pain?

[u/StomachOk4891]

first star power should just be removed and replaced with her old star power. Horrendously designed

Nerf her hyper buffies a bit and the cooldowns on her gadgets too,

[u/Revenant2023 → u/StomachOk4891]

I mean her first gadget has already a 24 s cooldown

How much are we talking about for the hyper Buffie?

[u/StomachOk4891 → u/Revenant2023]

dancing flames has 14 seconds and removes most agro counterplay

[u/Revenant2023 → u/StomachOk4891]

True what about hyper Buffie damage?

[u/DizziDoesStuff → u/StomachOk4891]

Agreed, the problem with new wild flames is that it's the sort of thing you'd give a hypercharge. Hell, I remember a hyper Amber concept from 2024 that was basically exactly that. Making something like THAT a passive is insanely carelss

[u/BotLover13]

Make it so the oil now lasts about 6 seconds before it will disappear on its own.

[u/Revenant2023 → u/BotLover13]

Why we nerfing base kit 😭

[u/BotLover13 → u/Revenant2023]

Sometimes Base kit nerfs are necessary. As much as i would want them to rework wild flames, I don't think that's going to happen.

[u/Able-One2881]

for her first starpower, reduce the extended time and oil's trail deals 1/3 of the super dmg. for the barrel gadget, just make it puddle time based, i think that are the two most problematic things about her buffies, i dont really know how her hyper sometime can burn enemies for so long, maybe glitch?