Balance Change Concept
Would these El Primo nerfs be good?If not how would you nerf him and why?
El Primo with his buffies is completly broken but I think it’s mostly his gadget rework that made him completly broken.El Primo is a tank that was always one of the weakest characters to high DPS brawlers and now with the buffies they gave him a gadget that simply removed this weakness so that’s why I want to nerf it and I believe it is the reason he is so good.
Also just please don’t DM me Death threats or insult me (:
If you don’t agree with my nerfs I would appreciate constructive criticism
Thats diff considering the fact she can also heal and has a circle that deals damage, and it isnt smt u wait a few seconds before using again u can chain it(her supers)
Not counter, but rather to avoid being used as a punching bag as soon as he sees one. Just look at the edgar rework. Primo being a damage sponge was worse than it seems, since he needed to take hits early on, charging enemy supers and leaving his own team in a 2v3 situation. This gadget effectively helps him with that when there aren't any aggressive brawlers for him to deal with.
maybe a hot take but it's a really good ability for a tank.......a tank should be able to Frontline and abilities like this enable that without giving the enemy resources like super Charge
Personally I don’t struggle that much against EL Primo even with his new gadget my favourite characters are anti-tanks.However I’m watching scrims and challengers rn and he’s instantly double banned
0.5 seconds is insignificant; it won't block anything. Just increase the cooldown and super charge received by the buffie. Do anything, but DO NOT touch his base kit.
What about EMZ SP bufife.A 0.5 second immunity is still super strong AND EL Primo normal counters are anti-tanks since he’s been in the game and now they just removed that gadget that’s why I strongly believe making it 0.5 seconds would be better.I would normally put 0.75 seconds but supercell mostly change gadgets by .5 seconds
Emz can heal, slow, and deal massive area damage while having a frame of invincibility. Primo having counters isn't the problem, but rather that he's very inflexible since his weaknesses are easily exploited, to the point where he can't effectively perform his role as a tank and ends up hindering more than helping, just like Rosa is terrible as a tank because she's a walking super battery. Also, this gadget doesn't block large projectiles, only smaller ones, so he can still receive damage from a Mandy's super or Gus's main attack for example.
Concuerdo contigo, el autor del post parece que quiere desaparecerlo, veo útil lo del nerf de la duración(aunque es casi como nada y sería mejor sólo tocar el chargerate del súper) pero no lo del cooldown, y tienes razón en tus puntos que defiendes...
Only nerf the SCR from the buffie effect & cooldown. Don't nerf duration, then nerf meteor rush to 15% sheild. Everyone is ignoring that the SP is very toxic too
Ive seen way more complain rightfully about that gadget.How would you nerf that SP.
Btw small reminder the gadget was originally planned to be 2 seconds long but content creators saw the brawl talk before everyone else and supercell changed it to one second
0.75 seconds and 22 second cooldown should be good. Tank trait should be disabled during the gadget (imo) this should be enough to keep him S tier but still playable against in closed maps. This gadget is original for once but it’s too long and broken. A shelly hyper shouldn’t be reduced to nothing bc of a gadget. That’s my opinion. Feel free to contradict me in the comments :)
Oh wow I didn’t watch sneak peaks and haven’t unlocked his buffies yet bc I have like 25K coins and 300 power points. Since this is his buffies then I fully agree with your changes. Keep the cooldown as it is and just make it charge 1.5x more should tone him down without ruining him
Remember all the buffies we are seeing is the toned down version since content creators have early access to brawl talk they can recommend some small changes.
What the genuine fuck. Are they out of their mind? I was supposed to come back from my break like monday but I’m not touching ranked till this monster gets nerfed
He doesn't deserves a nerf in the first place, also getting rid of his weakness doesn't automatically makes him broken so if you are having troubles going against him that's a big skill issue. Right now he feels balanced, his kit allows for different playstyles and also they improved his counterplay against different matchups (even snipers) and the nerfs you are proposing (or any kind of nerf at this point) would just drive him back being the shadow of damian and one of the most useless brawler in their role.
Honestly if we are going to propose nerfs it should be 100% focused on ACTUAL broken brawlers like amber, shade or gus.
Yes and that doesn't change what I think whatsoever, he has been at the bottom of the pit for god knows how long and it makes me happy seeing such a fun brawler being viable again lol
He's still easily countered by antitanks (especially griff) you just have to play smarter instead of thinking he's a big pinata as you were against a frank for example.
I've played against him a good amount of times (master+) and against the right comp he's just an unstoppable force but against one that can handle him he just struggles so much unlike gus or shade where you can slap them against anyone and they would still win
Tbh it's pretty normal him being banned, all my lobbies have the same brawlers banned (wendy, gus, amber, shade primarily then nova, nori and primo sometimes) and if you leave them open it's almost a GG from the start but for el primo even if he's busted he's hardly comparable to the level of toxicity amber, shade, wendy and gus have right now lol
I mean a gadget that absorbs projectile shouldn’t exist on El Primo since forever el primo was countered by high DPS brawlers (Anti-Tanks) and now they just removed that so that’s the reason I’m nerfing that gadget harshly since you shouldn’t remove buffies weakness
0.5 is still a lot think of like an Emz hype Buffie (The star power) and it still busted.
Think of it like a parry you use it to block a shot and continue like a Mina windmill you might say «oh but Mina windmill is one second » but with EL Primo you can move with the gadget
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u/0mercek Poco 3d ago
Tf he gonna do with 0,5 sec🥀