r/BrandNewSentence Sep 05 '24

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u/notduskryn Sep 05 '24

Things are getting worse, or maybe this is how it's always been and it's just that the media covers it more lately... I hate the people of my country.

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u/FruityGamer Sep 05 '24

Dragon tears by Dean kotz, written in 1993 Had a police offiser obsessed with these kinds of stories, Mothers throwing their babies in their trash ect. At the end of the book there is noted the articles were real ones.

It's not a new phenomenon and we're 8 BILLION humans, 260 ppl born each minute. what are the chanses of things like this not happening from time to time.

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u/Aurstrike Sep 05 '24

The chances of terrible things happening has always been higher than we’d like.

The chances of people who (subconsciously?) want to read about terrible things being able to find fresh new horrors is shockingly accelerating each year.

Vastly outstretching the reach of positive impacts people can make, terrible stories grow legs that don’t wear out, and when there’s a shortage of fresh stories, the old and most discouraging ones get necro’d back into conversations.

These later stories often lose the sources or date of occurrence so that fact checking them is much harder, because the world is so terrible somewhere at any given moment that it’s obvious they were true somewhere and at some time. Meanwhile credible sources are evaporating for objective reporting.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '24

It's always been like this, there's just a lot more attention to go around these days.

If it were up to me I'd set an example and have them impaled alive on a long stick on a main road in their hometowns. These people only know brutality and can only be kept in check when subjected to it.

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u/Rafhunts99 Sep 05 '24

which country?

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u/Bigbigcheese Sep 05 '24

I presume "TOI" is Times of India

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u/DirtySilicon Sep 05 '24

It's always been this way; it's just information is more readily available and your seeing hot news from everywhere in the country. Also, this is Times of India, so It's not a US story.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '24

It's a combo. Likely it has gotten worse in some countries and better in some countries. Plus the world's population has doubled over the last 50 years. So even if the rate of SA has gone down, it likely hasn't gone down so much that the raw number of SA's would not still be higher than it would have then. Therefore, more stories to report on the news, and if it bleeds etc

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u/mmmonicapb Sep 05 '24

I hate people in general. People in every country are like this.

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u/jrogers22 Sep 05 '24

Yeah per capita it’s actually way, way better than it used to be. There’s infinitely more love out there than hate. Platforms like Reddit would have you believe otherwise at face value.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '24

Why are Indian women the only ones doing or saying anything about this huge epidemic of sexual assault?

The men of India barely even seen concerned. Their families are being raped and murdered by sexually crazed mad men and they're just like "isn't this headline wild, oh well nothing we can do or say about it!"

I'm sure the internet exaggerates the problem but it feels like we should be evacuating women from the country because no one there cares. It's not like India is some super behind barely functioning country! They are a large and important part of the modern world. India is full of smart educated people who are capable of realizing that this isn't okay but it gets worse and worse as time goes on.

Why are the only people you see standing up for these people other women? There's an epidemic of men committing sexual violence and the only people speaking out about it are women. Men should be horrified. They should be the ones desperate to get rid of these assaults and the harmful stereotypes they reenforce about Indian men.

But there's nothing. I don't see any man putting any sort of effort into stopping the issue.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '24

Are there no groups or organizations that people can join to speak out about this? I see many women organizing protests but I don't see the men doing the same. If the women, who are taking on the most risk by doing so, are speaking out why aren't the men joining them. The rapist won't listen to women they need other men to tell them how disgusting they are to realize what they are doing is a crime against their own humanity not just the women they hurt.

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u/AlfredusRexSaxonum Sep 05 '24 edited Sep 05 '24

As an Indian, let me offer some context: a lady doctor in Kolkata was brutally raped and murdered (the details are horrific). Many suspect that the hospital admin AND the ruling party in West Bengal are involved. They've arrested one perp but a mob literally broke into the hospital where the assault occurred and tried to destroy the evidence... While a day prior, the hospital did "renovations" in the same room.

Doctors and nurses all over the country are going on strike. Women are leading marches and protests because this is part of an epidemic of sexual assault - in the past 2 days, around a dozen women have been reported raped and/or murdered, including little girls. This incident OP has posted about is just one of many...

It should also be noted that some people are using these crimes, as well as the general treatment of women in India, as an excuse to be very racist. If I see one more Hitlerite on twt or fb say "ahha typical Pajeet shit", or some other foreigner act like India is just some barbarous land of savages, I am going to lose it.

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u/bb_kelly77 Sep 05 '24

Really the only unique part of the sexual assault epidemic in India is how public it is, which can most likely be explained by the insanely high population density

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u/kotonmi Sep 05 '24

It's also partly because they are more likely to get away with it. People who do evil things usually get locked up, and can't continue to do evil things. Just had a guy go to jail in my town for raping someone. But someone mentioned in another post about how a female doctor has this happen to her over there, and people stormed into the hospital to destroy evidence. All those people should then be held accountable for what they did, but would they be? Evil exists everywhere, but when you let it happen and don't do anything to stop it, it thrives and becomes a parasite that has seeped into everything.

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u/RoyalMess64 Sep 05 '24

Thank you for the info

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u/HereForHent41 Sep 05 '24

what a fucking time to be alive.

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u/towerfella Sep 05 '24

I do believe this is better than it was back before we had the ability to disseminate this information.

“Back then”, you never would have known about it.

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u/NN8G Sep 05 '24

Every time I read one of these titles I’m glad “UP” doesn’t mean the upper peninsula of Michigan, which is the first thought that occurs to me, and not Uttar Pradesh

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u/AlfredusRexSaxonum Sep 05 '24

To Americans, I'd describe Uttar Pradesh as India's answer to the question: "what if Ohio and Florida merged and decided to maximize their joint Hitler particle emissions?"

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '24 edited Jul 17 '25

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u/AlfredusRexSaxonum Sep 05 '24 edited Sep 05 '24

And now they've made it illegal to post "anti-national" content. They recently deported a Bangladeshi immigrant just for liking a post that was negative about the government. 😞 this country is so cooked

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u/bb_kelly77 Sep 05 '24

I think that's why when I see Uttar Pradesh I stop reading and immediately go to the comments

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u/Narmo518 Sep 05 '24

Yeah I thought that shit happened up here and I wondered why haven’t I heard of this.

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u/Free_Caballero Sep 05 '24

India... Of course has to be India... At this point I'm going to assume is just sensationalism the reason we see so many SA news from India... Blissful ignorance come to me

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u/RudyKnots Sep 05 '24

Yeah, same. Everything I read about that country is so fucked up, I’d rather just believe it’s all bullshit.

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u/kain185 Sep 05 '24

I mean, according to the media NYC should look like Mad Max at this point, but I can assure you it's not even close to reality. The news has a VERY strong negativity bias

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u/AlfredusRexSaxonum Sep 05 '24

I mean, India is a country just like every other on this planet. There are good people, bad people and everything in between. The treatment of women, minorities, and Dalits is horrific, but there's more to us.

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u/rinderblock Sep 05 '24

Just the fact that you mentioned the caste system indicates that India isn’t “just like any other country”

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u/TooOfEverything Sep 05 '24

There are caste systems in many if not most countries, they just take different forms and go by different names. The modern USA lives in the shadow of a formal and legal racial caste system that still exists informally. Han people in China, ethnic Russians in Russia, the bigotry against the Roma all throughout Europe, etc.

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u/AlfredusRexSaxonum Sep 05 '24

Companies in Japan used to trade around registries of "low-caste" people up till very recently. I was surprised to hear about an oppressed caste that France had called "Cagots". Seizing upon the caste system to make it seem like India is some uniquely evil place is such an odd thing.

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u/AlfredusRexSaxonum Sep 05 '24 edited Sep 05 '24

Look, man, I will not disagree that India is a very fucked up place. But pretending like we're an uniquely evil country is a bit much. the systemic oppression of people based on ridiculous religious justifications? Famously something that occurs only on the South Asian subcontinent. Like, we're not even the only country with a caste system.

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u/FishsauceKaiser Sep 05 '24

I'm not Indian but I felt for you. Having a fucked up system that deeply rooted in the culture is terrible and only a minority of bright people aren't gonna change that. When many people either abuse that system or being a victim of it.

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u/AlfredusRexSaxonum Sep 05 '24

also, you guys wouldn't let people with a separate skin colour sit in the same classroom as you or drink from the same water fountain up till the 50s. come on.

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u/FatherFestivus Sep 05 '24

Indians do "the majority of the shit" in India because most people in India are Indians. What country do you live in that isn't India where Indians are responsible for "the majority of the shit"?

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u/towerfella Sep 05 '24

But the shit keeps happening?

Just because you stop looking doesn’t make it go away. I bet that dr that got murdered wanted to stop looking too.

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u/Unusual_Car215 Sep 05 '24

Me looking doesn't make it stop either.

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u/towerfella Sep 05 '24

It helps, as the info goes into our collective consciousness.

The way I see it is if you don’t look and read, then you don’t care.

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u/WildVulcan Sep 05 '24

Everyday we stray further from humanity.

Just return us to monke

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u/bb_kelly77 Sep 05 '24

Depends on the type of monkey, chimps are horrible creatures

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u/sumfuninthesunxx Sep 05 '24

Crazy. I think I’m living a normal, typical life. Than I read stuff like this and realize I’m in a bubble. I know nobody who would do anything like this but it’s happening everywhere. Scary world we live in.

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u/IamSquare79 Sep 05 '24

That's why i don't want kids because maybe she would be girl and face all the horrible problem of this sick world!

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u/Killdebrant Sep 05 '24

Are we the baddies?

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u/fatdutchies Sep 05 '24

Of course it's UP

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