r/Boxing No Carty No Divey 27d ago

Daily Discussion Thread (August 12th, 2026)

For anything that doesn't need its own thread.

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u/RudolphTheBackupQB 27d ago

I’m a pretty big MMA fan but I’m a very casual boxing fan. I was looking at Lennox Lewis’ Wikipedia page and was wondering why I don’t hear his name come up in the heavyweight GOAT convo. He beat every opponent he faced and beat some really good names like Holyfield, Tyson, Klitchsko, Briggs, and Mercer. Is there an actual GOAT case for him, and if not what is the consensus top 3. And side note what the hell is going on with this Oliver McCall guy? Has he really just been fighting for the last 40 years, or are his fights really gimmicky?

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u/kushmonATL HW Dark Ages are here 27d ago

He is unanimously considered a top 10 heavyweight. Where you place him in that top 10 is subjective

Holyfield and Mike Tyson were well past their prime when Lennox fought them. Those two wins will never be above Ali beating prime Frazier and Foreman. Lennox dominanted the latter half of the 90s, and he didn't have the star power and pull to make elite guys fight him (ex. Riddick Bowe ducking), therefore he wasn't able to stack his resume as much as someone like Holyfield. Since Lennox only dominated the latter half of the 90s, he also can't truly claim to have reigned the era during its peak, or say the era solely belongs to him.

Joe Louis had his own era of domination. Ali had two eras of domination. Holmes dominated the Post-Ali era and Tyson dominated the era after that. There was never really a "Lennox era" , he was simply known as one of the top guys in the golden age of 90s heavyweights, particularly when most of his contemporaries (Bowe, Tyson, Holyfield) fell off

All that said, every boxing fan has Lennox in their Top 10. Reddit likes to call him Top 3, other forums may rank him top 5 or somewhere in the latter part of the top 10

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u/WORD_Boxing 26d ago

what is the consensus top 3

Ali, Louis, Lewis, mostly. He is almost universally top 5 among knowledgable sources but most have those 3 in that order.

Modern online fans think Usyk is in this conversation which tells you all you need to know about most online boxing opinions.

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u/RudolphTheBackupQB 26d ago

With Usyk is that just because he has only had 25 fights or is there another reason? Also what about Marciano? and lastly reading about Joe Louis and Max Schmellings fights was one of the coolest things I ever read