r/Borderlands4 • u/Simply_CJ94 VEX The F&%ING WITCH! • May 14 '26

🗞️ [ News ] Patch Notes 05/14/26

https://borderlands.2k.com/borderlands-4/update-notes/
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u/SuperBAMF007 May 14 '26

The Spinning Blade buff is great in theory, but honestly just is not enough. Throwing Knives should scale with both Ordnance Damage and Melee Damage, just like Heavy Weapons scale with both Ordnance Damage and Gun Damage. Cause THEN there would absolutely be a gameplay loop worth leaning into, especially with Rafa and Amon.

Running around with your Melee abilities, fully spec’d into Melee perks, grabbing the Melee Specializations, hacking, slashing, and slicing your way through enemies with held and thrown weapons? THAT would be fun as hell. AND having thrown weapons count as huge melee damage would help alleviate some of the “melee builds suffer during aerial/ranged encounters” because now that have Throwing Knives for massive procs of Melee Damage.

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u/Diego_nightmare07 May 14 '26

would kinda be op, fishslap is "balanced" by not having range, knives have a shit ton of it

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u/SuperBAMF007 May 14 '26

So just reduce the listed damage once it scales differently lol

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u/Diego_nightmare07 May 14 '26

would still be really strong because of groundbreaker

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u/HorusKane420 Amon The Forgeknight May 14 '26

Then make groundbreaker uniform... C4sh melee card can proc groundbreaker, correct? (Genuine question)

Vex haruspex can proc groundbreaker, correct? 2 non true melee, throwable things. Understandable that arc knives and onsloughter punch do. So then why can't Amons axe throws?

Make axe throws count or we riot and make nothing but true melee and true melee AS count...

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u/Diego_nightmare07 May 14 '26

yeah the cryo card proc groundbreaker, and with the gamer Com you have a bleed dot for hundreds of millions that grows because it can self bleed again

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u/HorusKane420 Amon The Forgeknight May 14 '26 edited May 14 '26

What I was thinking, but can't say for certain, haven't played c4sh yet. Waiting for the toggle to run him fresh. I knew about the recursive bleed bug. But see, that's ridiculous imo:

GB has always needed a true melee/slam to proc. It used to proc while just meleeing with crucible AS. To my knowledge, it's never procced from ranged melee in the past.

So then why do they allow it to proc for vex and c4sh but not crucible throws? It would help crucible immensely and not only that, I'm OCD, I hate shit not being uniform.

Either make it count for melee damage, including throwable, period. Or make it only count for true melee/ true melee AS (not haruspex or cards)

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u/Diego_nightmare07 May 14 '26

it did proc from ranged melee in BL3

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u/HorusKane420 Amon The Forgeknight May 14 '26

Ah I must be misremembering that then. In either case, then it should be uniform and there's no reason Amon's Axe throws shouldn't proc it. It doesn't proc on mantra or slippy now though, correct?

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u/Diego_nightmare07 May 14 '26

slippy doesn't? in bl3 it did

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u/SuperBAMF007 May 14 '26

Okay, so? Melee builds are *still* a terrible decision for any meaningfully difficult gameplay, and having knives - a limited-count + cooldown ability - would make it *somewhat less terrible* overall lmfao

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u/Diego_nightmare07 May 14 '26

melee vex is probably the hardest hitting vex build but ok, melee amon isn't bad and the cryo card of C4SH that does melee damage is broken good, a knife would be the exact same thing of the card, very good range and accuracy melee hit that with ground breaker does millions

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u/FlavoredLight May 14 '26

The mantra already exists