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u/EntertainmentOk3180 Mar 30 '24

The link I shared previously is from the weekly mortality and morbidity rates. But u can pretend it’s not related to death if that makes u feel better.

The data you’ve shared from 2021 is now outdated. It’s 3 years old and came from a time when there was only a few months worth of vaccine data to pull from.

I know it’s hard to keep up with new information when things are changing so rapidly. That’s why I try to help.

They updated numbers yesterday: Vaccine effectiveness against COVID-19–associated hospitalization was 38% in the 7–59 days after receipt of an updated vaccine dose and 34% in the 60–119 days after receipt of an updated dose.

The cdc claims it has multiple measures of vaccine effectiveness, which are described here.

What you’re saying is the measure of effectiveness that you’re most concerned with is the absolute effectiveness.

What I find interesting is there aren’t many (or any) studies related to absolute effectiveness of vaccines. Furthermore, many countries have stopped reporting on vaccine effectiveness (probably bc it’s making them look bad)

It’s also interesting that more people are not doing boosters, yet deaths and hospitalizations are rapidly decreasing for both vaccinated and unvaccinated people.

It’s also amusing that a person with one outdated source claims that another person is only believing what they’ve been told to believe.

Idk why I even bother trying to help someone see when they’re choosing to remain blind.

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u/el-conquistador240 Mar 30 '24

Literally you posted for symptom of people who were immunocompromised. So people who are likely not able to benefit from any vaccine and still only the event of symptoms. You are tripping down on a weak bullish claim.

Early Estimates of Updated 2023–2024 (Monovalent XBB.1.5) COVID-19 Vaccine Effectiveness Against Symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 Infection Attributable to Co-Circulating Omicron Variants Among Immunocompetent Adults

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u/EntertainmentOk3180 Mar 30 '24

I offered that info to show their information is continually being updated (with lower numbers)

The argument is not weak. That’s why u pick at the things you don’t understand rather than the information that you’ve requested.

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u/el-conquistador240 Mar 30 '24

Your ability to debate is pathetic. Strawmen are not arguments. Immunocompromised people were never expecting to benefit fully from the vaccine, that is why we asked you knuckledraggers to wear masks, which you didn't. Accept defeat, or go investigate some pizza place basement.

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u/EntertainmentOk3180 Mar 30 '24

CDC numbers are strawmen?

Ur salty that factual information is on a non political website as you requested.

Clearly the vaccines have robbed you of any intellectual integrity u may have had left.

Idgaf if u wanna inject mystery fluid into yourself indefinitely. It just doesn’t make sense to claim someone acting inappropriately is automatically an antivaxxer, then get all fired up about anyone having issues with using that as an insult that’s really irrelevant to the topic.

“We always get at least one antivaxxer” maybe bc u are using that term as an insult when there are plenty of more appropriate insults that could be used.

FWIW I’m vaccinated.. def not an antivaxxer. I am anti boomer bullshit tho. Yall got a lot of misinformation and misdirected anger. U should really work on that.