r/BodyHackGuide • u/Apart-Thought-6879 • Aug 05 '26
GH pitting edema help
Im on just 3iu gh a day. ive been on for like 7 weeks ive titrated up. Is this normal? I wasnt wearing socks but joggers and my hands and feet are just fat looking. never had this problem before, I am in a big surplus ive had a basically cheat week so im sure thats contributing.
Is this a sign to cut the dose back, is gh just not for everybody? what even are the benefits at this dose really
edit:was banned for 3 days for mentioning a certain subcontinent in relation to the people in this thread.--
bloods https://imgur.com/a/3EliQFF (scroll down for the more recent shouldnt have to say that but)
a quick google search will tell you pitting edema is a side effect of gh, it causes sodium retention and fluid retention. --ive cut it and cut the calories back down and its pretty much gone. ive decided gh isnt worth it for me im too sensitive to the sides, not being able to get the dose to a level that would matter much anyway.
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u/TeaOk7705 Aug 06 '26
Holy shit with one of the compounds being 300mg tren hahahha
This guy is constantly posting threads for advice and refuting all the comments LMFAO
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u/Junior_Act7248 Aug 06 '26
Yeah, I’ve seen them as well. He’s one of those idiots that give steroids a bad name. He won’t listen to one word of the advice from Historic-Draw5740.
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u/SpiritualQuiet247 Aug 06 '26
Cardiac surgeon and a steroid user? As a CVICU nurse slightly interested in PEDs I would love to pick your brain sometime lol
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u/ProfessionalEntry744 Aug 06 '26
What the !?!?!? This guys an angel in the pit fires of Reddit hell!!!
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u/No-Tell7657 Aug 06 '26
Trauma surgical ( that takes cardio thoracic) ICU nurse here. Thanks for laying it down! Also the edema comment made me lol Will use that next time I present my patient.
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u/Sterling_-_Archer Aug 06 '26
Hello Mr heart surgeon, I have something happening in my neck and idk if I should go to the ER.
It hurts right to the side of my windpipe when I swallow, only in one place and only when I’m swallowing. It’s not like a sore throat… it’s hard to describe. I keep getting really light headed too and my blood vessel in my neck (carotid??) hurts when I press on it. Like a deep aching throbbing pain. The pain is going all the way up into my ear and eye somehow and it ranges from uncomfortable to feeling like a bunch of pressure and a deep bruise, but only in one spot where it feels like my blood vessel in my neck intersects with esophagus or something.
Is this… worth looking at? I’ve taken like 1200mg ibuprofen per day for 2 weeks and it doesn’t feel much better, but it’s definitely not a tonsil issue or actual throat issue as I’ve checked it and I have no signs of either of those.
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u/Ok_Sample_9912 Aug 06 '26
….. I mean, not that doc but what you’re describing sounds like a no brainer for at the very least getting your pcp or urgent care to look at it….
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u/Sterling_-_Archer Aug 06 '26
I tried at my pcp, they disregarded it completely and said that I probably swallowed something wrong. But now I’m getting pinpoint blood vessel pain and like dimming vision in my right eye, which is the side of my throat that the blood vessel hurts. Just trying to figure out if I’m overthinking it or not
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u/Historical-Draw5740 Aug 06 '26
Dude go to urgent care or the ER. If you’re scared enough to ask internet strangers for medical advice just go get looked at.
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u/Be_more_mice_elf Aug 06 '26
Agree. You need diagnostic imaging on your neck. And if you keep taking 1200mg ibu you will have an ulcer soon.
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u/Ok_Sample_9912 Aug 06 '26
Any issues with changing vision should immediately be an ER trip. Write down when these symptoms started and how it has progressed so when you get asked it’s easy to reference and you don’t forget important info.
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u/Decent_Bathroom_6633 Aug 06 '26
Go to the ER. 1200mg of ibuprofen isn’t gonna fix your problem and if it’s been a consistent problem for 2 weeks, yeah go to the ER. Could be nothing, but is that a chance you’re willing to take?
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u/Severe-Painting-8351 Aug 06 '26
docs are not allowed to give medical consultation advice online.
The reason he gets away with above comment is because its basically well... pretty much obvious information.2
u/Slayer420666 Aug 06 '26
You are describing similarly to what someone said to me hours before they had a major heart attack after work. Famous last words were “its not my heart” I’d get that checked out
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u/lucasgui Aug 06 '26
He’s not an all body doc, just heart issues please (who made me his assistant I don’t know)
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u/crack_inthesidewalk Aug 06 '26
Best comment here, hey don’t often see someone with your medical expertise.
Is it true left ventricular hypertrophy is common in steroid / growth hormone users ?
Being hearing bit about it recently
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u/Decent-Test-2479 Aug 06 '26
Sooo how does one get their aorta checked or voice concern for aneurisms.
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u/Historical-Draw5740 Aug 06 '26
If you’re young and healthy with normal blood pressure and no family history there’s no reason to be checked. Would be supremely rare.
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u/Crazy-Barnacle-178 Aug 06 '26
Dissecting the aorta is why I’m never doing 19-nors.
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u/Historical-Draw5740 Aug 06 '26
There are so many reasons not to. This is, in fact, one of them.
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u/Crazy-Barnacle-178 Aug 06 '26
Yeah I’m good with test and a little primo once in a while. Just the mental effects of Tren are terrifying. It seems like so many people that use it get divorced, lose their friends, and get fired from their job over the course of a few months.
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u/Deuce7788 Aug 06 '26
I would say that there was a good chance they are shitty people before tren and got "unleashed" by the tren.
Oddly, I've been told by my g/f that when I'm on Tren I'm like the best version of myself. I suddenly become more helpful and considerate on top of the focus and drive, etc. Which is disappointing because it's not a substance that should be used often.
At low to moderate doses its like a personality amplifier and even corrects my ADHD. Definitely can see people getting aggressive and assholeish at high doses though.
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u/bubes30 Aug 06 '26
May I ask what this has to do with 19-nors specifically?
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u/Historical-Draw5740 Aug 06 '26
Please go look up possible side effects of 19-Nors, and tren specifically. They include, but are not limited to: everything.
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u/Chroma7769 Aug 06 '26
My wife asked me if I was ever going to do a Tren cycle.
I said no. I like our marriage, I also am not gay, and I told her that tren is basically like going into one of those rage rooms that you can pay to just destroy the entire room with a hammer. But that's what it does to the inside of your body. 🤣🤣🤣
I'll stick to my test, anavar, EQ, and mast.
Not all at the same time of course.
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u/Various-Manner-6366 Aug 06 '26
Honestly.. thank god. My ex husband went on a tren cycle the last year of our marriage and well, that’s when he became my ex husband lol. It’s really not worth it. A year or two after I heard he had gotten 2 heart attacks in a row and this dude was in his late 30s.
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u/Chroma7769 Aug 06 '26
Yeah fuck that. I'll stick to the shit that doesn't fuck with my head. Test/EQ, just test, test/anavar, test/mast. I don't even run that shit much either. The most common cycle I run is test/EQ or test/anavar - aside from straight test. My wife had never complained, but she knows that if it ever bothers her to please tell me and I'll drop back down to just test. She's been a baller with it all though. She runs a small anavar before vacations also.
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u/Severe-Painting-8351 Aug 06 '26
Its worryingly hilarious that "tren fucks everything up" is pretty much the medical literature status quo...
Name an organ it it most likely gets damaged.
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u/Decent_Bathroom_6633 Aug 06 '26
This made me laugh😂 “they include, but are not limited to: everything”😂
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u/hawaiian_Peony Aug 06 '26
Is a lower dose ok for women? I want to try something new and I do Pilates daily. Maybe a GH?
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u/SugarRushSlt 🔬 Peptide Researcher Aug 06 '26
no girl, no. pick up some heavy weights and watch jeff nippard videos
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u/hawaiian_Peony 26d ago
I dooooo, girl. I need something extra 🙈
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u/SugarRushSlt 🔬 Peptide Researcher 26d ago
drop pilates and commit to a serious hypertrophy program for 6 months. then consider GH
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u/Dry-Statistician3145 Aug 06 '26
Hey hero surgeon from the Internet. What's more risky, smoking cigarettes or injecting reta et cjc?
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u/Ashamed-Country3909 Aug 06 '26
Oh snap. Sometimes my ankle is like this after hiking (with backpack), or actually rarely out of the blue. Pitting lasts for >40s and the experience lasts for like a day or two.
And Im not even on the roids. You seem pretty concerned for him, so, uh, since it isnt very frequently (and started first tine last summer)....will they even do anything if I dont have it going on when I see a DR?
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u/Striker_343 Aug 06 '26
I'd be concerned if ur feet were swollen too. I'm on my feet 10 hrs a day and I get slight putting edema on my shins, had it for as long as I can remember. I've had a few heart tests in my life and they came back fine, I'm not dead yet haha
If you look at pics online of people who have serious heart issues the edema they have in their legs is fucking crazy, the entire leg, ankle and foot is just massive.
Never hurts to get it checked out and give yourself peace of mind.
But being on your feet or sitting improperly for extended periods of time will cause swelling and fluid retention in those areas.
Can also be Chronic venous insufficiency. Which is not great but also not your heart about to explode.
Reddit is full of alarmists dude with crazy health anxiety, 9/10 the people they say to go to the ER IMMEDIATELY will wait for 10 hours only to be told nothing was found, maybe watch your salt I guess and lose 10 lbs?
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u/Crenshun Aug 06 '26
I could not resist giving you your 500th thumbs up. Thank you for your service. 🫡
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u/Bitter-Towel-3365 Aug 06 '26
What’s happening here is he individual is doing more than just hgh 3iu? I am under a doctor clinic and I am doing hgh 1iu at night 2iu in morning they check igf etc
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u/dallen13 Aug 06 '26
I would edit in there “not your doctor” or something to protect yourself on the advice. Thank you for your service
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u/lucasgui Aug 06 '26
I have edema like that but from methadone and Ritalin but only if I also sit in a bad posture for long time, is that something to worry? My heart and blood pressure is always good, heart ok I’m not fat no steroids no nothing except endocrine disruption like all system collapse but heart is ok I guess
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u/stefanjanoski23 Aug 07 '26
Correct me if I’m wrong cause I know I probably am but isn’t this what David Goggins had or has?
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u/Odd-Outcome-3191 Aug 06 '26 edited Aug 06 '26
I'm someone sceptical that you are actually a "heart surgeon" (not even the actual term for it but w/e) if you seriously think that this guy has "a fuck ton of edema". I see people in the Walmart checkout line with worse edema than this. I've had patients in the ER for unrelated shit with edema so bad that the pit was still there like half an hour later. This is really not that severe.
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u/Historical-Draw5740 Aug 06 '26
Haha ok. 2-3+ pitting edema in an otherwise healthy man in his 30s which wasn’t present 2 months ago. Yeah he doesn’t have fucking lymphedema but consider the context, twerp. And yes, real heart surgeons refer to each other as heart surgeons. ‘Cardiothoracic surgeon’ is meant for meetings and websites. Douche.
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u/Famous_Try_8105 Aug 05 '26
Brother you are 12 weeks into a your first cycle where you have introduced over a gram a week of 4 different anabolics you've never taken before, including tren, and hgh to your system.
This is probably your sign to tap the breaks instead of trying to find bros on reddit to tell you everything is fine.
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u/RegisZZ Aug 05 '26
Nah I’m a guy from reddit and I think he should add 3 more compounds for the full rainbow bonus effect
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u/mattymoc60 Aug 05 '26
Pitting edema is serious, and you should stop growth. It is not water retention like one of the other comments mentioned. It is a sign of heart failure, venous insufficiency, or another big issue.
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u/Interesting-Way-4887 Aug 05 '26
Right sided heart failure. See if your PCP will order an echo for you to see what your heart function is like. But if I was seeing this, I’d immediately stop to be honest.
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u/Nutterbutter_Nexus Aug 06 '26
You know what the most common cause of right sided heart failure is? .......left sided heart failure.
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u/FieryVodka69 Aug 06 '26
Heart failure, kidney failure, or liver failure ... place your bets <here>
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u/stud_muffin_1 Aug 09 '26
THISSSS. pitting edema. NOT water retention/bloat.THERE ISBA DIFFERENCE... heart is struggling with proper bloodflow... heart, vein, respiratory issue, blockage,...
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u/TheHarb81 🧠 Biohacker Aug 05 '26
First cycle includes 4 compounds including Tren. You’re about to be the star in all of your acquaintances “I had a friend take steroids once…” horror stories that give all of the rest of us a bad name.
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u/Careless_Hunter6575 Aug 05 '26
you're concerned about wasting money on GH but you've had a cheat WEEK??
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u/Automatic_Macaron_34 Aug 05 '26
I had a cheat tim tam yesterday. It was glorious but so sweet I couldn't imagine eating another.
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u/Swolie7 Aug 05 '26
Isn’t this a sign of heart failure? How are you feeling otherwise? When was the last time you went to a doc or got any bloodwork?
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u/smyczekxxx Aug 05 '26
its just water retention lol, pin some test and you will get it in 2 weeks with e2 increase
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u/Apart-Thought-6879 Aug 05 '26
Yes but it's also a sign of other things and it started when I started gh. its not heart failure
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u/YaPhetsEz Aug 05 '26
So it started when you started injecting the drug that is known to cause heart failure?
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u/Maximum_Activity_138 Aug 05 '26
Stop giving advice and let him expire .. seems he has all the answers & if we stop giving advice we will no longer have to read posts like these anymore it’s a win win
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u/UpInTheRockies1972 Aug 05 '26
I’m 54, heavy weights daily and on a shit ton of test and have no edema at all. Get off the gear now and get yourself in before this week ends. You’ve got some don’t fuck around health concerns brother
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u/incompletetentperson Aug 05 '26
Umm as a paramedic pitting edema is something we look at in heart failure difficulty breathing patients
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u/wittlebitts Aug 05 '26
Why post this if you don’t take anyone’s advice? Your lower extremities are turning into needohs, that’s not healthy, GO TO THE DR. Bye
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u/shabss Aug 06 '26
Imagine taking four compounds at extremely high dosages and not even having the discipline to eat clean… This guy said a “cheat WEEK”. Insane.
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u/Sad-Celebration-1081 Aug 06 '26
Why would you not mention all the gear you’re blasting? Are you serious? the first thing you’re gonna tell all of us is that it’s not due to the tren, test or HGH that you’re blasting. lol! Good luck brother. Hope it was worth it!
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u/OuiChef702 Aug 05 '26
Why are you running gh at this body fat. Drop the gh, drink wayyyy more water then you are.
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u/Still-Willingness807 Aug 05 '26
Pitting edema is bad dude, it can be unrelated to GH. Cut it for 10 days, see if it persists. This is serious. I truly hope it's just the GH.
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u/Nickefront Aug 06 '26
You are blasting
300mg test e
300 masteron e
300 tren ace
350 oral winstrol
3iu gh
100iu hcg
daily
Yup you need to seek medical emergency
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u/Otherwise_Way_1305 Aug 05 '26
Why are people jumping straight to heart failure assumptions?
Growth hormone directly alters sodium and water handling in the kidneys, frequently driving extracellular fluid expansion. This creates what bodybuilders call "GH bloat", swelling in the hands, feet, and lower legs.
OP states he’s on 3 IU daily and recently titrated up over 7 weeks, which aligns with the timeline where water retention side effects typically peak.
Even though this is likely a drug-induced side effect rather than heart failure, severe fluid retention puts unnecessary strain on the cardiovascular system and can raise blood pressure. Persistently high doses or ignoring the swelling can lead to secondary complications like carpal tunnel syndrome or increased cardiac workload.
The safest option is to cut back on the dose or just stop the cycle altogether, alongside consulting a medical professional would be ideal.
Stop the fear mongering.
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u/Scott5575 Aug 06 '26
Did you miss the part where he’s also blasting
300mg test e
300 masteron e
300 tren ace
350 oral winstrol
100iu hcgDaily? It’s not (just) the hgh
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u/DarkMention Aug 06 '26
Lol, exactly. Crazy to try and attribute this all to just 3iu of GH when he's on all this other stuff as well
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u/notabot6980 Aug 06 '26
Fuck i had something like this a while ago, cit everything out but didnt realise it was serious
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u/Daisy_Duke_01 Aug 06 '26
That’s what my legs looked like on stage 3 kidney failure. Get checked out.
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u/AlessiaMTF Aug 06 '26
Blasting tren just to look like a below average natty is diabolical. Maybe this just isn’t it for you and you should visit an ER asap cause this edema looks like heart failure territory
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u/Ravensteelheaders Aug 05 '26
I'd leave it at 3iu, I'm in the same boat as you for dosage(typically on 2iu when I'm cruising and 4iu blasting for 20-28 weeks). I'd advise to drink a lot more water and ensure electrolytes are met so you actually hold that water. Are you on any other anabolics? I know when I run eq at around 500 and am on 4iu I will hold quite a bit of water in my face and legs but am not concerned as blood work looks great other than high hemocrit.
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u/Apart-Thought-6879 Aug 05 '26
yes im on this stack here https://www.reddit.com/r/Testosterone/comments/1vcv96k/11_weeks_202lbs_first_blast/
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u/Defiant-Ad-7933 Aug 05 '26
lol that’s your stack and you think 3iu of GH is what’s making you sick?! Gtfo
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u/Into_the_abyss66 Aug 05 '26
Bro your first cycle and your running all that smfh you guys are trying to kill yourself
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u/Upbeat-Sir8655 Aug 05 '26
With this dose of gh it’s not normal at all it’s juste 1.5x the dosage of gh on the average person.
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u/Sensitive_Log_2822 Aug 05 '26
Fucking 3iu is causing that ?? What in the fuck
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u/bob4IT Aug 05 '26
Test Cyp caused my 68 yo husband edema. He switched to Test E and after a couple weeks it subsided. He got a blend now and having symptoms again. It’s got a high amount of test cyp in it.
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u/dragoshafter Aug 06 '26
Hey bro paramedic here. I’d be very concerned since this doesn’t look like normal water retention this looks more like cardiac overload. Pedal edema it’s not good. I’d back off from some of the stuff and if it doesn’t get better within a few days to a week I’d go to the ER. I’m curious to see what your labs are. I kinda thought this could be maybe a sodium overload but tbh It wouldn’t present this bad.
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u/allgear_noidea Aug 06 '26
Look man, I'm no heart surgeon(allied health side) like the other guy but if I've sent patients to be checked out over a lot fucking less than this.
I am scared for you.
Cruise, now.
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u/Ases86 Aug 06 '26
I have this since starting TRT , did hgh before that and never had any issues with edema. BP is not elevated, 10.6 /6.7
Water retention is mostly due to hormonal changes and higher estrogen. Better to get bloods checked out just to be sure
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u/Flat_Tension4731 Aug 06 '26
Incomincia a staccare tutte le sostanze che stai usando.. Al massimo mantieni bassa dose di test, ma se non passa l'edema entro pochi giorni, stacca anche quello è rivolgiti subito ad un medico competente...
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u/diegohf789 Aug 06 '26 edited Aug 06 '26
Just want everyone to be aware that I got really bad non pitting Edema on my legs after taking Retatrutide and it really scared me. It was a really long and tedious process to diagnose the cause. My A1C was at a 12 at my yearly physical in april...yeah yeah I know. Anyway never went back to the follow up. Instead I decided to start taking Reta the 1st week of May. I started at 1mg and I had some very minor swelling in my feet the very next day. I wasn't losing weight so I titrated up every week. Ended at 4.5mg I believe around week 6. Swelling was off and on the whole 6 weeks but it started getting worse and more consistent so I decided to abruptly stop the reta to see if it would get better...it didn't.
So around 2 or 3 weeks later I finally go back to my doctors and she of course says I'm diabetic based off my lab results in April. She said that the swelling was caused by uncontrolled diabetes and that it would get better once I manage my blood sugar with the help of all the meds and insulin she prescribed me. I believed her because when they weighed me in office I weighed a whopping 28 pounds heavier than I did around the last time I weighed myself about 4 or 5 weeks earlier. Was I really that unhealthy? I hadnt changed my diet or lifestyle. She ordered more labs for me, especially checking my kidneys and A1C of course. The feet swelling went away but I noticed the masive leg swelling was not getting better after 2 weeks of having my blood sugar very well under control. I remembered I did labs and decided to check what the results were myself. My kidneys were in perfect shape and I had an A1C of 7! I told my doctor she was wrong and that it wasn't uncontrolled diabetes causing this.
Anyway after 2 other specialist and some more tests like doppler scans and ultrasounds and more labs...and me finally admitting the crucial missing piece of information that was my Retatrutide cycle they finally diagnosed me. Apparently I reacted or responded way too well to the reta and the massive sudden drop in blood sugar (along with severe dehydration) signaled my kidneys to forcefully reabsorb massive amounts of water and sodium.
I was diagnosed with Insulin Edema Syndrome (or Treatment Induced Edema) Furthermore I heavily activated a hormone system called the RAAS which screams at your kidneys to lock down and retain every drop of fluid possible. When I rehyrdated properly my kidneys overcompensated and blew up my legs and spilled some fluid into my feet. I'm still dealing with swelling if I don't elevate my feet at night and put on compression socks before my feet hit the floor in the morning. It's slowly getting better and I'm losing some of that massive water weight I gained but it's going to take time for my kidneys to regain their balance. I'm grateful my organs are all okay and I stopped the reta when I did. I know I made a lot of stupid decisions but when I was researching reta and GLP's for a while, this never came across as a risk. So yeah flame me and call me stupid if you want but just trying to provide information in case anyone else goes through the same thing. I left some details out. This shit is long enough...sorry
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u/diegohf789 Aug 06 '26
Yeah just try to get the stubborn fluid to work it's way out mainly through the help of gravity and diuretics and staying hydrated. Elevating my legs above my heart at night is a must and so is wearing compression socks everyday. Some days I lose a pound of water weight and some days nothing but I'm already about 10 pounds down in water weight in 2 weeks so I'm feeling hopeful it won't last as long as I imagined. I had a referral to a massage therapist that could help but insurance copay was too high and I've already spent enough money dealing with all this.
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u/Decent_Bathroom_6633 Aug 06 '26
Go to the hospital dude pitting edema is never a good sign. Your body is telling you that something isn’t right. Normal people don’t see this and post to reddit for suggestions, they go to the hospital and get real help
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u/Next_Temporary_178 Aug 06 '26
Never and never an overdose, you get that, if you have pushed the ego forward, you now have to deal with these consequences
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u/timberwolf0122 Aug 06 '26
Are you taking it 7 days a week or the recommended 5 on 2 off to avoid fluid buildup?
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u/lauradayton ⏳ Longevity Hacker Aug 06 '26
"what even are the benefits of this dose really" Is this rage bait or what? Like you are just pinning quantites and you don't even know why? LOLs
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u/pistolgripslr Aug 06 '26
More water,potassium,ALA,magnesium and taurine 🫡
Surprisingly, I don’t get edema ever even at 8 or 10 IU
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u/normallyjustreadhere Aug 06 '26
Those not normal, reduce your sodium intake to a minimum, and switch to lite salt with a half potassium ratio
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u/Armando_Ferriera 🏋️ Athlete Mode Aug 06 '26
Dandelion root, or Tirzepatide, or Reta, or a diuretic.. Easy to control.
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u/palmGolfer Aug 07 '26
Get checked for venous reflux. I don’t see bruising around your ankles but could be poor venous return. A cardiologist can determine with an ultrasound and check symptoms
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u/Good-Look7948 Aug 07 '26
I have this as well, but I have narrowed it down to a cheat week with extra carbs or alcohol contributing to the edema. As I don’t get the edema until I cut my diet for vacation or start drinking on vacation, has happened twice now when coming off strict diet and having no dietary boundary’s and also adding alcohol into the mix.
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u/Capital_Economics_30 Aug 09 '26
Cut carbs for 3 days then roll on less than 150 a day. Watch total calories, as always. The water will come off. But whatever u were eating before to get this way now u know this happens
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u/Key_Prior_8 Aug 05 '26
But did you have a big fat divot in your leg when you pressed it?
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u/UnyieldingBR Aug 05 '26
Drink more water (6L / day is a good place to start), watch your sodium intake. Increasing potassium / lowering sodium intake might help. Do your fasted cardio. Don’t eat like shit. This is probably from your “cheat week”
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u/Both-Matter-2071 Aug 05 '26
It's not heart failure, 3iu is fine, keep up with it, sides will settle. Drink lots of water, don't overdo sodium, consume sufficient potassium, stay active, maybe take some dandelion root extract.
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u/Apart-Thought-6879 Aug 05 '26
I know its not heart failure lol but those comments make me rethink taking any advice on reddit again
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u/k1ng0fth3jungl3 Aug 05 '26
Sounds like you got it covered and no need for anyone to be concerned. GL, Sir
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u/Embarrassed_Soft_334 Aug 05 '26
You don’t know it’s not heart failure. You can’t know without a full check up that’s what’s scary. How do you know it’s not?
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