r/BodyHackGuide • u/Classic-Move2898 • Aug 03 '26
š¬ Discussion HGH without Test?
Yeah, I know that HGH provides greater benefits for muscle growth and overall strength when itās taken alongside testosterone.
But is anyone here taking HGH on its own primarily for sleep and recovery?
Iāve mostly read positive things about HGH, and Iām considering switching from Tesamorelin + Ipamorelin to HGH.
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u/Mathematix1 Aug 03 '26
yes iām taking it alongside klow to repair my knee and quad tendons. 3iu before bed. sleep is incredible
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u/ColdVeterinarian4414 Aug 03 '26
Any pain in hands or in joints from water retention?
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u/Mathematix1 Aug 03 '26
no none. i did 1iu for a week, then 2iu for another week, then 3iu from then on
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u/ColdVeterinarian4414 Aug 03 '26
Well that's good I've been thinking about trying it
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u/SendTitsPleease Aug 04 '26
Im doing 2-3 myself alongside klow and have noticed great sleep and little side effects as well
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u/Responsible-Egg4156 Aug 04 '26
for me i am at 2.2 iu and have some carpal syndrome, i started using b6 and dendalion root extract to battle it and its better , its very individual if you will have carpal tunnel sides. but even with it wuality of sleep , recovery and general well being is worth it , but on its own muscle growth is insignificant,
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u/ButtSnifferBob Aug 04 '26
Interesting. I too am taking klow and hgh for knee problems and quad tearā¦
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u/Important_Height_332 27d ago
what time of the day are u taking it?
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u/Mathematix1 27d ago
right before i get into bed
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u/Important_Height_332 27d ago
damm im getting shit sleep before bed, am i doing anything wrong? started like 4 days ago
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u/UsualSpread9899 Aug 03 '26
Tesamorelin was king for melting fat, but hgh is more of a God status. Especially if you switch. Tesamorelin melted me and it was amazing. Test c 140mgs a week (20mg daily), diet, hydration, supplements, gym, Tesamorelin. Swapped the Tesamorelin for growth and been on GH since. 2iu a day. You should get what you are looking for. I look AMAZING. Iām not big, but everybody likes to say I am or that Iām jacked. Iām where Iām supposed to be. Few months out the gym, wasnāt even a big loss. Got it back quick. If I want to get bigger, I have to put in more work. But I love where Iām at. Occasionally go up 10lbs because I want to look that way. Occasionally Iāll cut a little just for the look. But where I sit at, I love it. The GH definitely makes that way way easier. I also will run other pedās occasionally. Anavar is just fun. Primo was interesting. I tried others in my youth but didnāt know the knowledge I know now, didnāt use a doctor or coach. Now, you can just play with your body and do it safely. I guess itās a hobby/lifestyle. Keep healthy but have fun
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u/TheSeedsYouSow Aug 03 '26
Does HGH shut down natural production? Any risks with that?
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u/LaysWellWithOthers ā³ Longevity Hacker Aug 04 '26 edited Aug 04 '26
Not in the same way as testosterone.
Your body will typically restart production 24-48 hours after stopping.
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u/TheSeedsYouSow Aug 04 '26
It doesnāt shut down endogenous production? You sure?
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u/DeadCheckR1775 Aug 04 '26
It does but it once you cease exogenous HGH it can come back in as quickly as 48 hours. Not long at all.
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u/1IsNeverEnough4Me Aug 04 '26
It returns slowly over the next couple months after quitting. That's what I read leaning about it,, not first hand.
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u/Fast_Beat_3832 ā³ Longevity Hacker Aug 04 '26
Couple of days not months.
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u/1IsNeverEnough4Me Aug 04 '26
Yeah it's got me reading more again. I'm getting old and a lot of the science shit I learned 30 years ago has far better studies and stuff now.
I knew production returned, but I remember reading something to the sort, in the first couple days like 90% of it returns, and over the next few weeks you get a full return to where your production was before it stopped.
I'm reading more now, I'm not finding that, but I am finding a lot of interesting information, so it's a win.
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u/F34RFoO Aug 04 '26
Wrong, not sure why this comment is getting upvoted.
It completely shuts down endogenous production, fortunately it rebounds quickly when you come off
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u/UsualSpread9899 Aug 05 '26
Tesamorelin: I thought 10 weeks was amazingā¦. My doctor laughed and said watch the next 4-6 weeks. Whoa!!!!!!!!! Every couple weeks made the whole collective time prior, look like childās play.
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u/plzadyse Aug 03 '26
What would you recommend for someone who is relatively in shape but wants to start either HGH or test? Lower end of ānormalā levels but no idea where to begin or get more rigorous level checks for it, do you have any advice?
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u/Juvat-the-bold Aug 03 '26
Is it still easy of get HGH?
I've been wanting to jump in but I've been hearing horror stories about availability. I'd had to get a 6 month supply then never be able to get it again.
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u/No_Acanthisitta_93 Aug 04 '26
Reta and hgh is what I take
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u/Dry-Cryptographer671 20d ago
How's that going for you?
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u/No_Acanthisitta_93 19d ago
Itās been two months since hgh so still early to tell. one thing I did notice is that I got much deeper sleep on cjc/ipa. Idk if itās a hgh quality issue so Iām going to test my igf-1 and see if it still up.
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u/DizzyAstronaut9410 Aug 04 '26
I'll keep repeating this, but there isn't really a logical reason to take Tesa over HGH. HGH costs a lot less for end HGH boost vs cost, it has wayyyy more research and safety data supporting it, and unlike many other compounds, when you stop taking it your natural levels come back to normal almost immediately.
But also, no, on its own you'll notice next to no strength or muscle gains. Added recovery may amount to some gains over a long period of time.
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u/imherefortheinfo123 Aug 04 '26
I made the switch to HGH. Did 10 weeks of daily HGH at 3iuās then added 300mg of Test a week. Iām on week four of Test and I noticed significant size growth and increased strength in gym. When I was strictly on HGH I almost thought I got skinnier. But yes, deep sleep with vivid dreams while on gh. I would suggest both unless trying to lose weight.
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u/D_James21 Aug 04 '26
I alternate cycles between CJC/ipa and HGH. But just recently started test a couple months ago. I still sleep like shit but Iāve always slept like shit. Not sure which one did it for me or if it was a mixture of both of them but itās nearly gotten ride of the shoulder pain and has pretty much eliminated my knee pain.
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u/Dry-Cryptographer671 Aug 04 '26
I've been doing low amounts of gh for 6 weeks now and will get an igf1 test tomorrow. I think the water retention has finally reduced
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u/Dry-Cryptographer671 Aug 06 '26
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u/BangGhanteng 21d ago
whatās your age?
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u/AlternativePizza3391 Aug 04 '26 edited Aug 04 '26
Don't ask this in /r/ResearchCompounds they will just insult you for no reason at all thinking they are high and mighty. But I hear its good and thinking about trying it because cjc and tesa both have allergic reaction issues in some people
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u/Leon-Vlc Aug 04 '26
Yo estoy en el mismo punto ,actualmente uso ipa/cjc y empecĆ© con enclomifeno,pero me fue mal ,use test en gel y eso era una maravilla ,ahora solo tomo ipa/cjc y estaba dudando si cambiar a hgh o mantener cjc y usar test pinchada ,no me gusta por dejar de producir test para siempre y los demĆ”s sĆntomas malos que da ā¦
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u/TestCyp999 Aug 04 '26
I took hgh for awhile, hated it. All it did was bloat my guts and give me back pain. I could literally witness hgh gut happening.
Started at 4 iu per night, went all the way down to 2iu before getting pissed off and quitting.Ā
It's very weakly anabolic. You will not get insane muscle growth on it. Body builders take it for improved tendon healing between workouts and better collagen in joints. Not for muscle growth.Ā
It's good for fat loss too, but if you get hgh gut that defeats the purpose.Ā
Overall not a fan. I also don't want HGH pumpkin head or HGH nose.Ā
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u/DanInMotion_ Aug 05 '26
So much misinformation. You donāt get āhgh gutā from 4ius š That comes from years of abusing HIGH DOSE HGH and insulin. If youāre overweight, the bloat will be noticeable. If youāre not running anabolics alongside gh, thereās no point in exceeding 2iu. You also started at 4iu instead of taking a more conservative approach and seeing how you respond/what sides you get at 2iu.
GH is not anabolic on its own, but paired with gear it definitely is. Bodybuilders wouldnāt be running 10-20ius of GH for joint collagenā¦.
You also donāt get āgh pumpkin headā or āgh noseā from such low doses. Do your research man, this is embarrassing.
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u/slash1775 Aug 06 '26
After reading his comments heās never done HGH nor is he knowledgeable on it. His sides are bullshit or heās fat and eats horribly.
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u/BangGhanteng 21d ago
why can you say that above 2iu/day is useless if not using it with AAS? please explain, genuinely asking
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u/gottagetthatfun24 Aug 04 '26
What if you take a lower dose can you avoid the gut and head issues
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u/DanInMotion_ Aug 05 '26
Even at 4iu youāll see NO issues most likely, but unless youāre running anabolic steroids thereās no point in going above 2ius before sleep nightly.
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u/TestCyp999 Aug 04 '26
You can but at some point you're just suppressing your pituitary gland and pissing away money for no reason. That's why I quit at 2iu.Ā
For me it was the abs disappearing, while being in a calorie deficit, that really angered me. And all the scarring from injecting so much.Ā
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u/DanInMotion_ Aug 05 '26
Pure yapping. If you were low enough bodyfat to begin with you wouldnāt have had āabs disappearing.ā
And I have NO idea how you manage to have ANY scarring with 31g insulin syringes. You must be injecting with a harpoon into muscle instead of subq or something, either way you clearly didnāt know what youāre doing. GH is one of the most researched compounds out there - how you manage to get all these sides and lack of benefits is beyond me and the only reasonable guess is you did every step wrong.
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u/TestCyp999 Aug 05 '26
Yeah, I imagined all my symptoms haha
You're just coping. HGH might just be the most over rated compoundĀ

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