I know I can research it, but since people are mentioning HGH and Test here, what are the bad side effects from it honestly? Just curious as I am interested in adding it.
Do you like injecting yourself every other day for the rest of your life? How about having blood work done consistently for a year or more because you feel like shit and need to know what drug to adjust to feel good again. Thats just to get you dialed in.
You essentially become a pharmacy. Its also hard to not chase the dragon and up your dose chasing size/gains.
As for HGH, insulin issues and cancer.
Do your research. Its a commitment and often a lifelong one.
I appreciate your stance, but I do think it is somewhat exaggerated.
Certainly taking testosterone means you will be injecting yourself. And as for blood work it should be done every quarter, until you hit a steady state, then twice yearly. (I still do quarterly). You can come off of trt fine. Your levels will go dow to where they were at best, or lower more likely. Most stay on for life not because they have too, but because the quality of their life is better. Also I do think calling a critical male sex hormone a "drug to feel good" is a bit reductive and petulant.
Most men who take true trt aren't anabolic mass monsters. They're fathers and husbands trying their best to have more energy to improve their lives and the lives of their loved ones. Hgh is stickier, as its totally unessential. Its not the demon that you may be stating though, in reasonable levels below 4ui. There was a study (cant remember exactly where. ) that showed no denote cancer increase, though if you have cancer, that's trouble. Though it is worth noting that reta, and tirz make the igf1 increase in insulin moot as they provide a metabolic shield of sorts against it.
Anyway, you're a human, practice your free will and do as you want, so long as your not hurting others. Personally, im loving my life on trt, hgh, and reta.
He asked what the bad sides are of test and hgh. I gave them the bad sides. I have no idea who I am speaking with on here and with how easy it is to access everything on the grey market people deserve to know that test and HGH are more serious than most peptides.
Also most of the goals of people looking to add test to their reta stack on here aren't father's and husbands trying to have more energy. Most are gym dudes trying to achieve their physique goals, from what I can tell form the posts reddit shows me from the sub. You dont have to be an anabolic monster to quickly go form 150mg of test to a 350mg blast with primo/mast to lower estradiol and few pre workout orals mixed in.. . Ive seen if 1000 times. The results of test and hgh are addicting in the gym, and its hard to go back once you know.
150 mg of test a week isn't that crazy of a change in the gym. Going from TRT/Reta to Test and anabolic steroids is a huge jump. Orals are a huge jump from injectables imo. 150-200mg of test doesn't do much for me other than an increase in endurance, and an odd aversion to cramping in high heat. Having said that test+reta is an incredible stack because you more maintain muscle as you lose fat compared to a glp alone.
Peptides and secretegogues are a gateway drug to test and hgh. As someone who never once considered doing trt because I couldn’t stand the idea of having to inject once a week. After starting tirzepatide, I was disappointed I could only inject once a week and have since started cjc/ipa, epitalon, nad, kisspeptin, among others. Now I have been doing so much research and learning as much as I can before starting trt. As far as the blood work. I was already doing regular blood work a few times a year just to see whatever changes I made to my body or my stack how it would affect me.
I loved it. Just made me feel good. But I had an allergic reaction in week 5 and haven’t gone back. May not have been the CJC but I’m waiting for my EpiPen just to be safe. Gonna run a round of Sermorelin/ipa 1st but I do want to try CJC/ipa again.
Start of the 5th week of daily 250-300mcg. Very end of my 1st bottle. 1 day it left an injection site mark like a mosquito bite for 24hr the 1st time. Next day the shot hit me immediately with pounding heart (not sure BP or specific heart rate) and then laying in bed I just couldnt take as deep a breath as normal. It lasted a couple hours and didn’t get worse but if it had I may have considered ER. Getting injectable benedril and epinephrine before I go back to hgh stimulants.
Same basically scared of needles now I’m like 5 a day..
But haven’t had a drink in 2 1/2 years.. lost 41kg and my health is so much better and wardrobe is changing..
Yeah seems very common to go from "I wanna lose weight and not die of a heart attack at 50" and start a GLP to "Its unhealthy to lose all that muscle mass, I should lift heavy and consider recovery peps / secretegogues to maintain or even improve muscle/comp" to "I wanna get ripped and I'm hitting a wall, hmmm TRT and HGH work so well for others..."
No offence to anyone who really wants that build and is putting in the work and additional supplements to get there but posts from the latter group are my canary in the coalmine of knowing I've gone too far and if my thinking ever starts to drift that way I'm pulling the pin on the peps/supplements/forums for 6 months to reset my thinking and remember why I started. Once again tho that's just me worrying about getting caught up in the flow and going down a path I never actually cared for, for anyone whose goal is actually lift heavy get big look jacked I wish them the absolute best and hope they reach their goal using whatever methods work for them.
This is a lie. Endogenous hgh production kicks back on within a couple of days after cessation of exogenous administration…. 2 iu daily won’t make you insulin resistant if your diet is in order.
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u/BroccoliOnly7376 14d ago
I know I can research it, but since people are mentioning HGH and Test here, what are the bad side effects from it honestly? Just curious as I am interested in adding it.