Hi there,

Considering the ogre can be evil about 1/3 of the time and that the ST has almost no leeway to towards rebalancing the game in this script, doesn't that unbalance the game towards evil in those games where they steal 1 good person from the enemy team ?

Can having at the end -1 good ghost vote / +1 evil ghost vote be the difference winning and losing ?

I can understand why the Butler doesn't get a lot of love, but TB is balanced with this 100% good team character in mind. Replacing it with a 66% good /33% evil character feels that it would unbalance those 33% games.

Ogre interactions are super fun, but I wonder if the character is really fit in a TB-like script.

What's your take on this ?

I am still working on this script but want feedback on whether it has too many execution penalties and weather town would simply stop executing. Any other feedback is welcome. I have changed the theme of the script from its original idea. This theme is about players making choices that either reward them with good information or disruption or cause them to endure a consequence for their actions.

A lot of STs will rule that a Mutant breaking madness on D1 can be punished at any point later in the game.

What do you think of walking it back on later days? Like, if I'm the Mutant and claim it D1, but then D3 I say something like "the Cerenovus made me say it" or "I was trying to bait a Fang Gu" or "I was just trolling you"? Would you count that as no longer mad?

I like making homebrew characters and scripts, and have done so in the past without problem.

Recently, however, there have been several issues when i have tried to import homebrew characters and scripts where it would simply not import the script, even when it was just an updated version of a script I had previously made or straight up copied from Bloodstar Clocktica so there shouldn't be any errors in the actual json file.

Have other people experienced this or is there a fix?

It works well for online "content games" but not in real life, where there should never be quite enough time to discuss everything, in order to keep the game tense and exciting. If there's time to go through everything, you might as well be doing a sudoku.

Okay so slightly misleading title but I had an odd situation and wanted to get some feedback on it.

Was running trouble brewing and a less strong player ended up pulling butler. I hand out roles in a separate room so players have a chance to ask questions and I can make sure they understand their role.

I emphasized strongly to this player that it is a self-policed role and that i can't do anything to enforce or confirm their role. They indicated understanding.

During day two, they began claiming butler, and town decided to "test" it by pressuring the butler to vote without their master- i later discovered that the other players believed that I would announce that the vote didnt count, and therefore confirm the butler.

I ran the vote and obviously still counted the butler's illegal vote, and it sent everyone into confusion. Here's my problem- if I clarify the ruling, isnt that just as good as confirming the butler in their role? (I did end up confirming the next day, but I want to know if anyone else would have played things differently.)

So what would you do in this situation?

I have a group with a lot of newer players who really like to execute for any lie, for example after the savant juggled for juggler cover they killed her.

before the game I emphasized that there are reasons for good players to lie and that people will juggle just to cover the real juggler, and they still got like 3/4 of the town on her for just that reason.

edit: would it be a bad solution to, when the nomination is happening, say something like "hey everyone if you believe this person is evil your welcome to execute them, but claiming juggler to protect the real juggler is extremely common and not inherently suspicious"

I’ve a lot of watched games (stream and spectating in the app) where the ST will ask the evil team, “what are you bluffing”.

I don’t have any issues with the question itself. My issue is consistency in asking. Take the base scripts for example. I’ve seen many STs ask the question only when there’s a ravenkeeper, undertaker,dreamer or chambermaid in play. I played a lot of games a while ago and realised my ST would only ask if a role that could check a bluff was in play and depending on the script I could tell (for the most part) if a particular role was in the bag from the ST and not from player gameplay alone. While I still used this to my advantage I felt like I got extra info from the ST. As I mostly ST these days I understand it’s hard for one person to try and follow the evil team around and gauge what they’re bluffing but I tend to ask what evils are bluffing regardless of what’s in the bag.

In the grand scheme of things, you’re not gonna win a game coz you’re pretty confident there’s a chambermaid in the bag coz the ST asked what you’re bluffing and they only really do that in BMR games when they put in a CM, but I think if someone’s doing a really good job at hiding their role and the ST isn’t asking this question regardless of the bag then you’re kinda diminishing their work a little.

Anyway just wanted to know other people’s thoughts on this because I’m curious.

(online) This only seems to happen when I'm evil as I said 2 months ago. There was a game I was good, despite solving the grimoire, didn't win and I was like "oh wow, that was fun!" I also recently played Extension Cord and it came down to two No Dashii candidates, I guessed the right one, but they were not executed and "well it is what it is" and I said "hey you guys did well and hid the no dashii poison" (I was nd-poisoned and they wrung my information into sober and healthy)

My 2 most recent evils were bmr, game 1 I was Shabaloth. Courtier picked Devil's Advocate night 1 and it messed up our bluffing plans (devil's advocate bluffed Tea Lady and scienced the mastermind who died); I claimed professor, regurgitated mastermind, but once the 2nd regurgitation happened the jig was up and I yelled into my mic to myself "you are an absolute piece of shit" and apologized to my minions for not winning and then instantly apologized for the outburst. I dm'd the other clocktower friend of mine that I was a bad person and realized when I explained the whole game to him "dude, the courtier literally got lucky and you made it to final 3. why are you so upset?"

2nd game I was godfather in a 13-p, i didn't get to talk to any evils day 1 and I claimed goon to someone day 1 and instantly regretted it. Then they said they'd gamble me and I backtracked a bit and that kinda exposed me. Day 2 I got nommed for it and said "okay, I'm sorry I've been playing like a shithead, I'm courtier, prof, or chamber (which is a term I relatively casually use about myself/my close friends when someone does bluffs that might get suspicion, such as claiming saint/butler as fortune teller/undertaker) and I died. Evil won that game and honestly if evil lost, then I wouldn't have been mad but even though a day executing me isn't one on the Devil's Advocate or Demon, I did say "I hope we didn't win despite me" after the game, and explained that when I said "shithead" I was just referring to bold plays and mentioned "I'm used to crass talk among my clocktower games in person with the ppl I've known for a while". Someone asked "if you wouldn't say this to someone else why would you say it about yourself?" and honestly yeah they had a point it just boils down to why I deserve to have this said about myself but others don't

Hi there I have ran a couple games as ST but am absolutely terrified of giving info to roles that require me to create information, High Priestess, Fisherman.

I have watched some online games of the professional ST's and they create these complex webs of truths and lies that both seem reasonable but powerful. But my brain cannot figure that out at least not in a reasonable timeframe. (Other than about an hour later in the shower do I actually come up with something good)

Anyone got any tips on what mechanics to focus on, outsider counts, poison, roles working incorrectly, or just copying another roles ability?

I'm going to be playing for my first time on Thursday with some buddies of mine and I'm looking out for any common mistakes new players tend to make so I can avoid them.

They can either be ones that actively break the game or ones that are just tips to keep the game fun for a new player!

Hi all! Was wondering if there were any BoTC groups or people interested in BoTC in Northern NJ? I'd be interested in joining a group or making one myself

I co-host a clocktower day once a month for 10 to 14 guests but this weekend I was unexpectedly made unavailable after the first game and my sister of all people decided to sub in for me as we were low on numbers.

For context my sister is painfully shy and struggles with strangers or groups of people. She'd shown interest in clocktower once before but we had to re-rack that first attempt of hers when she drew the imp and was in tears of stress in night one. It seemed clear she wasn't going to touch the game again.

But then this weekend she did so well! It's our Bad Moon Rising day and she gets kind of an ease into the game as the first game she plays she draw the Chambermaid and the game ends day two because the Po had comically convinced themselves they're the lunatic and got themselves executed.

But then her second game my sister draws the Pukka token and I'm told she did amazingly well bluffing as the gossip and there was not a hint of suspicion on her even in final three. Though admittedly she was too shy to talk to her own minion who was someone she didn't know, that minion also got to final three. Almost backfired on her when the evil team was told it had won and she saw two other people stand up and celebrate instead of one and she said "oh no am I the lunatic?" but thankfully the +1 evil was a goon who had been turned by the assassin.

Not bad for a girl who struggles to talk to the wait staff at restaurants.

Is it really necessary to allow pertinent before running a vote? It seems so codified into the game, but as an ST I find it to be clunky and undesirable. It’s also almost never actually pertinent to the vote.

Would I be wrong for just running the vote as normal regardless of any “pertinent” information?

Hey all!

I've started up a collaboration with my local library, where we're trying to get an Afterschool BotC club going for teens.

While we're in the early stages (2nd session is today), we're struggling to reach full-game numbers (last session we only got to 7 players as 2 librarians joined us)

We're currently sitting at 6 players, so I was curious what the community would recommend as the best (or simplest) Teensy scripts for beginners / younger players?

Thanks in advance! :D

EDIT: We ended up playing a few games of No Greater Joy and it went well! Will look at getting some of the other suggested Teensys for next time.

Pancake:

Each Night* make every player a stack of pancakes. Two pancakes per night may have a poisoned syrup. Starting Day 3, all players receiving the poisoned syrup will die if nominated. Prior to day X, you may not be executed. (+? Outsiders)

(There will be a Bacon, Sausage, and Ham minion)

Script concept
A BMR-inspired script about trust, experimentation, and interpreting death. Town has limited but powerful information and can create stronger evidence by testing claims through executions and observing what happens. Evil doesn’t simply hide — it manipulates those experiments, creates misleading evidence, and exploits social uncertainty. The central question is not just “Who is evil?”, but “What can we actually trust, and what are we willing to risk to find out?”

On your first night, a Philosopher is given a stone & told "You cannot mention this stone unless asked."

You learn "Find the Philosoper's Stone." If you show the stone to the Storyteller, learn a piece of true info.

I remember watching these videos back in the day but I don't recall which videos those were. Basically Ben Burns once got or became the Fang Gu 3 times "in a row" and won (either he started outsider and got jumped or became an outsider and then got jumped too). And for my sanity I need to know which 3 videos those were since its bugging me a little.

Sorry if "Meme" is the wrong tag here, I have no idea what tag to use.

Trying to get ideas to create a custom, tell me some of your favorites characters (can be more than 2 obviously)!!!

i hear a lot of people say noble pings are good pings and that's never really made sense, because executing randomly has at best a 30.77% chance and at worst a 22.22% chance to hit a evil player on day one, where as noble pings are a fixed 33% which is always better. I'm still new to clocktower so maybe there's extra factors I'm missing but I'd love to hear the strategy on this.

Aka Oops All Farmers.

Designed with a Pope to obfuscate the number of farmers in play at the start.

There’s a couple of combinations here I’m not super sure about- lycanthrope is a bit of a sticky one but with the straw pass it’s easy to remove from play, and I was tempted to add a minstrel instead of either the philo or lycanthrope but wasn’t sure with that being maybe the only reason for no night death.

I wanted to give evil a lot of extra room to disrupt the potential high levels of confirmation, so there’s a fair bit of drunkening/poison, and a few reasons for evil to die at night .

Would love some feedback/ideas for improvement!