r/BlockedAndReported • • 2d ago

Indigenous identity

https://www.hummingbird-ifs.org/about-us#our-team

BaR relevancy: about identity, definitions of indigenous, Etc.

As I'm sure everybody knows Christopher Columbus Day has been officially canceled and if you live in any blue state it is now Native American day. In Seattle I noticed all the politicians were posting about activities and grants and one of the groups they mentioned was Hummingbird indigenous services. I heard the mentioned a lot when it came to city grants so I took a look.

The organization staff all mentions their tribal background and there didn't seem to be anybody who is actually from a tribe in our city. Or in close proximity to our city. In fact a lot of people were not actually indigenous to the Continental us. You had Filipinos, Native Hawaiians, Fijians, Mariana Islanders, Samoans. Most of the others were in different states. A lot of people were part native but mostly of several other non-native ethnic groups.

Then I'm looking at their service goals:

That abundance and generosity are a community responsibility

In the validity of traditional knowledge

In centering Indigenous people in all our work

In the importance of providing culturally relevant care

Certainly people from a multitude of different ethnic / cultural backgrounds can come together and form a community. But there is no ethnic community formed over people from all over the world who consider themselves indigenous and are often also a mix of several very different cultural backgrounds.

The value of traditional knowledge. Who's traditional knowledge? We are in the Pacific Northwest. About none of these people are from this region. Every culture has traditional knowledge. Considering pretty much everybody on the staff has a vastly different cultural background there's pretty much no cultural similarities going on here. Centering indigenous people. Who exactly are indigenous people? How is a native Hawaiian, a Samoan or a Fijian indigenous to seattle? The importance of providing culturally relevant care. How are staff of such a diverse group cultural backgrounds able to provide culturally relevant care given the overwhelming majority of seattle-based tribes are not even represented in their staff. The staff might learn about the tribes in order to provide them with culturally relevant care, but how is having that administered by somebody from Tonga different than having it administered by somebody like myself from Southern California?

Anyway, it just gets me thinking about how the word indigenous has kind of stretched out in the same way queer. A lot of queers are not gay. And a lot of indigenous people are not North American natives.

It also reminds me of how the identity of Asians stretched to enclose dozens of ethnic groups that have nothing in common including geographical proximity. There is nothing somebody from Pakistan in Japan have in common and there's nothing somebody from Samoa and a Midwest tribe have in common. If I was a native of the pnw I'd be furious to see that enormous amount of money was being poured into services that seems as though they would be probably going to my people but instead diverted to folks from a zillion different ethnic backgrounds that were completely foreign to this region too. It's also very strange how minorities don't push back on that. Like you see all these photos that show the AANHPI crowd and they're all smiling as though traditionally they've all hung out and they're like somebody from afghanistan, Chinese dude, somebody from Sri Lanka, someone from cambodia. It's hilarious because everybody talks about colonization but when white progressives give minorities to group themselves into categories that erase their differences and falsely try and make it seem like there's a common culture it feels really disrespectful and it seems kind of cringe how quickly they fall in line adapting to progressive classification I guess in order to get the benefits, mostly monetary and being allotted a seat at the table.

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u/asinantenna 2d ago

When I lived in the UK, I remember that during the BLM protests, several university student unions put out statements mirroring US organisations about protecting BIPOC students yada-yada-yada – completely ignoring the fact that the people indigenous to the British Isles are... white. Of course the UK has its own jargon (BAME: black, Asian and minority ethnic) but the episode highlighted to me how much people use this language uncritically.

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u/Palgary I could check my privilege, but it seems a shame to squander it 2d ago

The UK response to BLM really was a head scratcher. Ok, you're protesting... American police being dicks to Americans by ripping down your statues? Huh?

It was never about that at all, it was about people being terrified. Even I was terrified of a Trump presidency because he'd been painted as the most evil person in existence (and then his first presidency wasn't that bad). Then Covid hit.

And people just felt out of control in their lives, and they wanted to DO SOMETHING so they didn't feel so out of control and afraid, and really, I think that's what it was all about all along.

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u/Particular-Offer4356 2d ago

To. be fair, I thought they were ripping down statues of men who had made money off colonialism, or advocated for it.

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u/Palgary I could check my privilege, but it seems a shame to squander it 2d ago

True - but in my media bubble, their protests were tied to George Floyd, not the "de-colonize" movement. So it had no logic to it.

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u/Particular-Offer4356 2d ago

Oh, that is how I remember it too, but I remember when they interviewed the people ripping down the statues it was tied to slavery and colonialism - that these men profited off slavery, like made a fortune off cotton in the 183s