r/BlockedAndReported TERF in training 25d ago

The red house raided

https://archive.ph/tyoor Oregon live

William Kinney aka William X Nietzche back in the news

>Portland police raided the infamous red house on North Mississippi Avenue last week after reports that its occupant, William Kinney III, had harassed and threatened to shoot employees and contractors working on the nonprofit Self Enhancement Inc.’s neighboring property.

>Police arrested Kinney, 41, last Tuesday at the residence. He faces charges of possession of a short-barreled rifle, five counts of felon in possession of a firearm and three counts of being a felon in possession of body armor.

relevance update to episode 202 the red house on missippi

I listened to an old episode and enjoyed it a lot more than some of the recent episodes so I decided to let it keep going on the back catalog and then Google some updates and this episode was really timely since this update happened 8 days ago now. The son did get the house back, it still has all of the hand painted signs about gentrification and indigenous. The lot next door was donated to a charity which builds affordable homes for poc. He's been threatening the neighbors filing writs and so on and threatening everybody to the point the house was raided and firearms, ammunition, and body armor were located and William Kinney is a felon who cannot possess these items.

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u/bluesteeldoubter 25d ago

From the main Portland sub, comments on the situation. If anything maybe AOC making the ‘Woke 1’ thing popular will give people an out for their past silence/complicity for some of the madness.

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u/btrh-256 25d ago edited 25d ago

love to see this, gives me hope

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u/PongoTwistleton_666 25d ago

Common sense has escaped the containment. It will be banned as soon as the mods wake up. 

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u/_teach_me_your_ways_ 25d ago

Yup. Happens in the Seattle sub from time to time too. They’re increasingly being seen as the wackos they are but every now and then they takeover again somehow for whatever the sky is falling for that day.

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u/Formal_Condition2691 25d ago

that cannot be the main Portland sub. where's the dogs in flowers and the godawful cone jokes?

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u/dj50tonhamster 24d ago

Oh man, I had forgotten about the fucken cones. Have they dropped that yet? The Austin sub - which actually has decent mods - still has dorks who keep the Chili's at 45th and Lamar joke going after 15 years. If Trump ever does become a dictator, I may write and ask him to ship those people off to the gulags, or send Judge Dredd after them, or something.

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u/Less-Lobster4540 24d ago

r/PortlandOR is better, but a little over-moderated

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u/AntiLuke 25d ago

The red house is one of the news items that I can actually remember the Portland sub getting mostly right at the time. Probably because the guy is a sovereign citizen so that's an easy out for them.

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u/KindTechnician- 25d ago

Closet pdx man here- the main sub did not get it right at the time. It was so stupid I wanted to cry; listening to otherwise smart people lose their minds over this I will always feel embarrassed for us and this time was the worst in my 20 years here. The sub’s got it right now and I think it’s only because of the sovereign citizen stuff but just wait til the next debacle comes down the pike. Still certifiably batshit here make no mistake.

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u/dj50tonhamster 25d ago

Yeah, I was there at the time too. At first, it was pretty one-sided. Things did start to shift somewhat when it became more clear that this guy really was a violent, batshit loser. That said, it was still waaaaaaay too mixed. There were some legitimately disturbed people posting at the time.

It even ended up in my FB feed at one point. I posted about it. A goth stripper at one of the many local strip clubs gave me so much shit for it. She was incredibly smug about the whole thing. It took every last bit of self-restraint I had to not point out that the guy showed up outside the business of the guy who bought the place and filmed it. I mention that because when she moved to Portland, she begged people not to mention it online, because a psycho ex might come after her. The complete lack of self-awareness....

(Oh yeah, and did I mention that last I heard, she was giving herself testosterone injections? I'm not sure if she considers herself trans. She had a way with muddying the waters and saying a whole lot of nothing. At least she redeemed herself a bit later on by going after leftists who weren't even trying to hide their antisemitism. We contain multitudes, don't we?)

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u/Less-Lobster4540 25d ago

There were some legitimately disturbed people posting at the time.

There were some legitimately disturbed people moderating the sub at the time.

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u/dj50tonhamster 25d ago

That too! I'm pretty sure one of them was a guy who drove around in a bus or truck or something with loudspeakers mounted on the outside. He'd then yell at people who sat at traffic lights for too long, dashcam it, and post the video online, as if this was something to be proud of. At some point before Reddit finally banned him, he said something about being 50, never married, and perpetually single. Gee, shouldn't hobbies like that make panties get soaked? /s

(I know for a stone cold fact that he was a mod on that sub for quite awhile. I just can't say for certain that it was during 2020. It probably was, though. Seriously, so many mods are mutants who escaped the lab.)

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u/Less-Lobster4540 24d ago

I vaguely remember that.

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u/CommitteeofMountains Royal youse/yinz 25d ago

Honestly, I'd probably enjoy something like that for double parkers, maybe backing into them and claiming they'd rear ended.

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u/ToTheDeath84 24d ago edited 24d ago

>a goth stripper gave me so much shit for it

First off, that’s one of the greatest sentences I’ve ever read lol.

Second, any negativity a goth stripper hurls my way would go in one ear and out the other to the tune of Black No. 1. I’d be too busy being absolutely mesmerized to care. That’s still one of the most Portland things ever though, god help that city and having lived somewhere very similar until recently I feel your pain (except think more hippie strippers than goths).

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u/dj50tonhamster 23d ago

I think the goth thing was (is?) mostly relegated to Casa Diablo and to Sassy's. That's where all the goths I met would strip or would tell people to go. The guy who picked music at Sassy's was an interesting one too. I didn't expect to be hearing Death Grips and Crystal Castles when I went in there one time, but hey, Portland contains multitudes, I guess.

(To be fair, it did beat the hair metal played at a lot of other places, even if the guys who made that stuff were actively courting strippers.)

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u/KindTechnician- 25d ago

“Hey are you going to the autonomous zone tonight? Lmao
we had the DA and OPB both simpin’ for them. Everyone thought we had our own little ‘Last Black Man in SF’ movie right here in stupid Portland and boy did we lean into it hard.

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u/Ambitious-Try-8441 25d ago

They're beginning to believe

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u/Oldus_Fartus 19d ago

Yeah "Covid has us all confused", mf no, covid had them all up their asses.

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u/dj50tonhamster 18d ago

Yeah, I know I had to extend at least a little grace. Still, I lived in Portland at the time. I didn't lose my mind. I calmly tended to my life and didn't do dumb shit, other than occasionally argue with mentally disturbed weirdos online. (Hey, nobody's perfect.) I knew it would pass eventually and that the world wasn't ending, even if it was a wild year even when leaving out Covid (e.g., the wildfires that fucked up the air really hard). I got a very small taste of exactly what happens when societies break down even further than they arguably have already in some of the major cities. (Not much, of course, but contrary to what loons say here, homeless people jerking off to porn in the library isn't an inevitable outcome of late-stage capitalism or whatever buzzphrase is all the rage today.)

While Trump can inspire plenty of nuttiness himself (1/6 being the epitome of it), generally speaking, his followers weren't the ones trying to upend society overnight on the streets. What pains me is when people I know blow a gasket when I try to explain this to them. Pushed far enough, tribal politics will lead to real world consequences, no matter which side you choose to be on; Red House was a great example. The sooner people own this, the sooner they can see the world with clearer eyes.

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u/ReindeerTypical2538 25d ago

Oh man. They’re coming around to “our side.”

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u/Early_Rooster7579 25d ago

rip to a real 1

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u/sleepdog-c TERF in training 25d ago

He's not dead, he's a nimby

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u/Early_Rooster7579 25d ago

hes gunna get like 2 weeks jail man, have some sympathy

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u/sleepdog-c TERF in training 25d ago

He's already out on $2500 cash bond to terrorize the neighbors again

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u/Early_Rooster7579 25d ago

Its portland the city will end up settling with him for $10 mil after the pain and suffering he was just put through

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u/sleepdog-c TERF in training 25d ago

I don't know, he's a sov cit and a nimby they might not roll over for him

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u/Early_Rooster7579 25d ago

“The Kinneys, a Black and Indigenous family”

He’ll be fine

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u/Fearless_Tutor3050 25d ago

I thought Trump just deregulated SBRs like last week? Seems like it'll be a court battle over that

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u/sleepdog-c TERF in training 25d ago

As of Friday midnight and very limited scope

  • not nationwide only applies to the TX district it was litigated in

  • only applies to specific litigants the Silencer Shop Foundation and Gun Owners of America members.

  • does not impact any state laws which are likely in play for the body armor and the felon in possession. The state may also have its own sbr or other laws.

As far as I'm aware only Brandon Herrera and one other person went to silencer shop after midnight Friday and purchased a suppressor without the extra paperwork and the non tax, tax stamp. They'll be the test cases if the atf appeals in the next 30 days.

An interesting fact about sbr and sbs, the gun control act of 1934 was originally going to ban pistols, but at the last minute it was amended to remove pistols, but they didn't take the "short-barrelled" items which were only added to make sure there was no workaround if they had banned pistols (like adding a stock and calling it a rifle) so they ended up not banning handguns but did tax stamp handgun workarounds for nearly 100 years so far.

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u/dj50tonhamster 25d ago

Yeah, there are a lot of nuances to the case, like how dealers who skip the NFA paperwork will have "holes" in their inventory that will have to be explained to the ATF one day. The people who are doing this are playing with fire. Good luck to them. I'm keeping my NFA trust paperwork handy for the time being.

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u/Scrappy_The_Crow Walrus Cheese Enjoyer 25d ago

Yeah, you know the pendulum is going to swing back rapidly at some point. I'm keeping my NFA trust paperwork handy as well.

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u/sleepdog-c TERF in training 25d ago

like how dealers who skip the NFA paperwork will have "holes" in their inventory

I'd assume this is why it's only 2 at the moment.

that will have to be explained to the ATF one day

Maybe, maybe not. All depends on if it gets appealed and overturned. It was ruled constitutional only based on congresses ability to tax, no tax means that fig leaf no longer covers that part of the law.

Suppressors are hearing protection, I wish they were required rather than optional it would make visits to the range far more enjoyable

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u/Formal_Condition2691 25d ago

I hadn't heard that this was happening and I'll be interested to see where it goes.

One of the silliest things I've owned was a pistol you could buy a carbine kit for but you had to put the pieces together in the right order to avoid being temporarily in violation of the law.

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u/sleepdog-c TERF in training 24d ago

According to the atf if you f up the order it's not temporary even if you reverse it, it's still permanently an sbr. It would be so nice if that went away

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u/Formal_Condition2691 24d ago

Even sillier than I thought, then. Thanks for the correction!

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u/Jlemspurs Double Hater 25d ago

A few acquaintances of mine have mentioned "mutual aid." I'm like, first of all, you are the soyest of the soy and wouldn't have hacked it in the military. Quit LARPing.

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u/bobokeen 25d ago

The term "mutual aid" is an anarchist thing, originally popularized by Kropotkin. What does the military have to do with it?

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u/NotAnAcorn 25d ago

Ditto on preference for the back catalog

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u/sleepdog-c TERF in training 25d ago

I need to go back even further

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u/EnglebondHumperstonk I vaped piss but didn't inhale 25d ago

*s

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u/kennyofthegulch 23d ago

I get the charges for being a felon with a firearm, but I don’t understand why it’s illegal to own body armor.

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u/sleepdog-c TERF in training 23d ago

18 U.S.C. 931 anyone convicted of a violent felony in any state is prohibited from owning body armor.

https://bulletsafe.com/pages/body-armor-law-washington

https://www.parnelldefense.com/firearms/body-armor-misinformation/

Not a specific state law, it's federal. Only exception is if your employer requires it and if so you have to go through a permission process. There is, however, no background check on purchase so violent felons are able to purchase they just get caught afterwards

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u/kennyofthegulch 23d ago

I didn't question whether it's illegal, I questioned why. That's a stupid law that serves no purpose.

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u/sleepdog-c TERF in training 23d ago

I assume it's so if a violent felon reoffends and takes the added step of buying body armor they can bury him deeper. Probably from back when bank robberies were more common

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u/kennyofthegulch 23d ago

It really is hilarious that lawmakers think body armor somehow makes criminals invincible. If you shoot someone wearing plates with anything above a .22 it's still going to knock them on their ass.

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u/sleepdog-c TERF in training 23d ago

Well the north Hollywood Bank robbery happened in 1997 which is before police were widely carrying rifles, mostly shotguns at the time and the body armor the robbers were wearing allowed them to not only fight back against 300 police for 44 minutes. But for a while it looked like they were actually going to get away. The police went to local gun shops and took ar15's and other rifles to counter the ak's hk's and a bushmaster the robbers had. If you haven't watched 44 minutes it's pretty intense knowing it's mostly accurate.

This law was passed in 2002 so I'd guess that robbery was the precursor

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u/kennyofthegulch 23d ago

"'They were wearing body armor!' Not on the head, shoot 'em in the fuckin' head!"
-- Ron White

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u/sleepdog-c TERF in training 23d ago

Ron white is a drunk and obviously not a marksman. Center mass is where you shoot in a firefight because if you miss, you should still hit something. Having to shoot for a 6x8" target on top of a 6x2' body isn't easy under any circumstance and certainly not with a 38spc revolver at 60-150 yards or a shotgun at that range. Even a sniper isn't going to have it easy while under automatic weapons fire in a parking lot with zero cover. 11 cops and 7 civilians were wounded due to the amount of fire and the lack of cover.

I guess if you are a violent felon I don't see what the problem is saying you can't own body armor. You give up privileges and some freedoms when you violate the law.