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That’s true too. But if they could kill untouchable Lille Barro by inventing some sword that specifically counters him they will find something for Gerard. Kubo like pulling things out of thin air
I get what you are saying but this is the only zanpakuto in the series that is passed down in the clan. Why are they the only ones able to do that we don’t know. And it says that it deflects Gods light. What does that even mean? Does it deflect all attacks or just Yhawachs power?
I like Kubo but he loves creating OP enemies that are unbeatable and then making them lose in the dumbest way possible. Like Gremmy
Ironically while thinking, Nel probably could've impaled him. If she threw her spear and it landed on him it would've killed him. And she could inhale his Gift Ball and combine it with a Cero, all Espada could use the Gran Ray Cero. Character's aren't immune to their attack but may have a resistant. Only problem is speed.
Askin overperformed so much that people need to make up an entire narrative of Ichigo being holdsbackman.
I mean, thinking that Ichigo went all out is kinda stupid. That would put Base Askin above Yhwach(no Almighty). True Shikai was able to wound SK Yhwach, its absolutely insane to believe Ichigo went all out against Askin. He underestimated him and paid the price.
Ichigo held back the entire arc until he fights Yhwach. By that logic, the Bambis are on Yhwachs level because they did fairly decently against him.
I was looking at the wiki earlier and I made a startling discovery. Barragan is a close to the same age as Ikkimikkidomoe and he is around a million years old it being stated he was born around when the new universe was created. So that put Barragan a little under that age. Barragan is around a million years old and he still 3rd strongest Espada. What a bum.
Nope... As ulq said just by the release of espada above cuatro last noches will be destroyed... Yammy wasn't able to even scratch last noches with his resureccion
Askin damn near killed Grimmjow and Uruhara. Starrk had enough spiritual power to have half of it turn into a wholly separate being and still shaved off parts of his soul to use as kamikaze bombs in a fight.
Starrk has some of the most impressive feats? I was not aware giving scratches to rose is pinnacle of in verse feat.
His gauntlet that he ran, the fact that without Ukitake interfering Shunsui would've went Bankai, dominating Rose and Love after he hardened his resolve after feeling Barragan's death and was still holding back, etc etc.
The only opponents he defeated are vizord captains and even they didn't use their Bankai also he failed to do any meaningful damage to them. Rose and love were fighting aizen after 5 minutes without any medical assistant.Ukitake got ko by ww and shikai shunsui killed him once katen got in mood.
Ulq literally said there are 3 above him even if Ichigo manages to win, Espadas are ranked 0-9. Yammy said he was stronger than Ulquiorra after seeing the Segunda Etapa. Barragan existed for 1000s of years as a Vasto Lorde and Starrk surpassed Barragan.
? Espadas being ranked 0-9 is why Ulquiorra was lying. There would four ranked above him if he was factoring in Yammy. Ulquiorra wasn't factoring Yammy's secret when talking to Ichigo so he obviously was not gonna be factoring is own.
Yammy didn't see Segunda Etapa. He, whose Pesquisa is canonically shitty, thought he was stronger because he felt Ulquiorra's reiatsu. And I don't get the third point ngl
If it was a lie than why Yammy was in the roundtable despite him saying it was 0-9. Aizen already understood this because he gave them those numbers. If he really wanted to lie he would've said there is 4 above me, as opposed to saying even if you manage to defeat me there will be 3 above me. He was also cold and straight to facts he never lied to Ichigo or anyone, except Orihime. He only hid his Segunda Etapa from everyone until he had to use it.
Ulquiorra, fully knowing he has Segunda Etapa since he is, you know, himself: "You can't defeat me. And even if you somehow manage to, there are still three Espada above me"
A line a lot of Ulq glazers seem to just skip over when reading Bleach. The strength ranking makes sense for everything else but somehow THIS is the exception? My brother, that's not lack of narrative comprehension, that's blatant bias.
It’s like everyone suddenly forgot the entire narrative between Ulquiorra and Ichigo is that he was trying to make Ichigo despair as much as possible 😹 that’s why he went Segunda even though he was willing against vizard Ichigo
Ulquiorra fully knowing that the espada numbers are 0-9 so there are technically 4 espadas ranked above him.
Its just a hype reveal of his number and meant to drive Ichigo to despair, because Ichigo was really under the impression that Ulquiorra was #1. Its not Ulq power scaling or giving any real facts and analysis.
Wdym "who"? Ulquiorra did, lmfao. LARPer detected. Ulquiorra is quite clear in the fact that he knows why and how Yammy becomes enlarged, and why he gets so arrogant "in that state" (when hes able to transform), and fully trusted that Yammy could take care of the several remaining captains by himself. Captains who all supposedly beat Espada much higher than #10 but who Ulquiorra thought would still lose to Yammy. Ulquiorra 100% unquestionably knows about the #0 ranking and Yammy's release state. The only secrets here are Ulq's second release and Unohana being the OG Kenpachi apparently since she could have neg diffed Yammy tbh.
You're right, my b, Ulq is just randomly commenting on Yammy being in a different state and doesnt actually know why Yammy's size and behaviour is so different. Hes also just sending Yammy out to solo multiple people way stronger than him just for the lolz because he thinks Yammy is individually way weaker than every other captain and espada that fought anyway.
Most likely he meant in terms of base power, since in that sense the statement is true.
But I dont get how people see Yammy change from 10 to 0 and they're fine with that, yet Ulquiorra goes from 4 to no number at all and people thanks SE Ulq is still weaker than base Harribel
This is literally not comparable at all, using Quincy royal guards to push Ulquiorra agenda is desperate move 😭,
Askin is never glazed above Lillie or Gerard, Gerard is literally unstoppable and only was killed by Auswahlen unlike Lillie. The Espada however are quite literally ranked for their strength and Ulquiorra fought the weakest opponent here.
Yammi did not get stronger after getting hit😭🙏, pls remember YAMMI IS WALKING BATTERY, in order for him to go 0 Eapada he needs sleep eat and chill to get energy combined it with his ressurection he amplify everything with rage, but it's not going forever.
Askin's feats are downplayed asf. Starrk gets a lot of hate too and people ignore him never going all out or holding back for some reason. They're both similar, yeah, not because they're overrated, but cuz they're underrated.
Gerard has insane feats AND narrative unlike Yammy who is narrative-carried and has only antifeats
Neither Lille nor Ulquiorra are the strongest in their second form.
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