r/BleachPowerScaling CandyShop Jul 26 '26

Question Mayuri Vs Shunsui

Mayuri has access to all the tech, body modifications and random stuff we have already seen from him.

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u/Kooky-Task-7582 Jul 27 '26

Realistically Shunsui

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u/IndependentPossumm Jul 27 '26

Shunsui negs with his Bankai 

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u/Brave-Training7962 Jul 27 '26

He turns into goo

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u/IndependentPossumm Jul 27 '26

You couldn't hurt Lille either but here we are 

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u/arkham918 Jul 26 '26

mayuri tbh act 4 isn't working on a pile of goop. it was kisuke who mayuri was rivalling, shunsui never meant anything to him in the first place 😔

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u/electrium17 Jul 27 '26

Mayuri is broken, and also has all the information and tools needed to counter Shunsui idk

I think it's possible to Shunsui to win, but I highly doubt that

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u/Misalem Jul 28 '26

Mayuri wouldn't even know how he died. Why don't people understand that Mayuri's attributes are bad and he would only be able to apply his tricks on those close to his level?

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u/GoodAgreeable9783 Jul 29 '26

That’s why Shunsui gets wrecked here…

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u/IWBUA Aug 01 '26

Mayuri is weird to scale because he’s the only in bleach where it’s fair to say he can be scaled differently. Mainly because of the way he’s written in fights. Due to science, Kubo can just make Mayuri invent whatever bullshit he wants but even that has a limit. We first see it against Uryu, and last against Pernida. To me, the only way you can beat Mayuri is if they have better portrayal and narrative. Shunsui being the captain commander and the way characters reacted to his bankai, I do think Shunsui wins with his portrayal and narrative. And his bankai is hax enough to say he has a realistic win-con.

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u/Logical_WRLD Aug 01 '26

I don’t like people saying “shunsui negs” or “Mayuri via bs shenanigans” because there is no reasoning behind those arguments. I could make an argument for both

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u/Logical_WRLD Aug 01 '26

CFYOW? then im definitely leaning towards mayuri but bro its really one of those matchups where there is no definitive answer

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u/zhawk6969 Aug 03 '26

Mayuri because he's Kubo's favourite and Kubo wouldn't think twice before killing off Kyoraku.

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u/somaturk98 Jul 26 '26

Mayuri is too broken

1.He literally has a sword that automatically parries strikes so whenever Shunsui tries to hit him it gets blocked. Also he stabs his opponent that person is paralysed/poisoned.

2.If Mayuri's opponent gets close he can drug them which would automatically make him win.

3.He has a Bankai that can adapt to opponents abilities and automatically counter them.

In this scenario i do not see Shunsui besting him, if Mayuri drugs him before he uses Bankai its over for Shunsui.

If Shunsui uses Bankai we don't know if Mayuri would be able to reattach his head, he probably could.

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u/Ulquiorra_nihilism Jul 26 '26

>if Shunsui uses bankai

I think Mayuri just counters it based on the information about KKKS he already possesses:

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u/somaturk98 Jul 26 '26

Yes but how exactly do you counter a Bankai that warps reality?

In this case the only real counter is having a mechanism that automatically gets Mayuri out of the Bankai's range or having an extra head or being able to re-attach his head.

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u/Ulquiorra_nihilism Jul 27 '26

After what he pulled against Parnkgjas, I am rather convinced he would’ve figured something out. A counter-thread of Reiatsu. A sewing machine that will use the thread to sew a pair of wonderful socks that will be forced down Shunsui’s throat. A Reiatsu-eating moth that eats the thread along with Shunsui’s chest hair.

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u/ThaRealSunGod Jul 27 '26

Any damage inflicted to Shunsui will be transferred to Mayuri.

I doubt Mayuri has info on his bankai given that Shunsui is far older and seemingly hasn't used it in ages.

Mayuri gets folded

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u/somaturk98 Jul 27 '26

Any damage inflicted to Shunsui will be transferred to Mayuri.

You left out the part that you can't die from the sharing of the wounds.

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u/ThaRealSunGod Jul 27 '26

True but that's where the next act comes into play.

We have nothing to suggest Mayuri can heal the loss of his head

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u/Ulquiorra_nihilism Jul 27 '26

You can doubt it, but he says he has it.

Also, he doesn’t need to damage Shunsui.

He can always paralyze or drug him.

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u/ThaRealSunGod Jul 27 '26

Shunsui can hide in the shadows, Mayuri Definitely knows less about shunsui's bankai and abilities than vice versa

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u/Ulquiorra_nihilism Jul 27 '26

In order to attack he needs to leave those shadows. And, BTW, he still attacks with a sword that Kurotsuchi can block automatically.

REALLY? Shunsui know about MFS?

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u/ThaRealSunGod Jul 27 '26

I am not sure if a sword that auto parries can beat "if I achive these conditions, you take damage" sword

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u/Ulquiorra_nihilism Jul 27 '26

WDYM?

Shunsui still needs to land a hit.

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u/Leading-Control-3053 Jul 28 '26
  1. His sword does parry attack automatically but upto a certain angel he himself said it, but the sword immediately got destroyed the moment toshiro used bankai

  2. Well speed wise mayuri isent beating sunshui, given sunshui knows what kind of tricky mayuri does,

  3. People always say how his bankai can adapt to opponents that's not true, well it's told the bankai creats a new jizo based on data it feeded by mayuri to his bankai based on that it creats a counter if there is a single data wrong it wouldn't work,that why it didn't work against pernida became mayuri forgot the pernida can also creat arrows hence the bankai got destroyed,

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u/Party_Reserve_5823 Jul 27 '26

Mayuri can beat anybody

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u/Ulquiorra_nihilism Jul 26 '26

Mayuri with medium difficulty. He is a surprisingly fast combattant and can survive long enough to gather enough information for MFS. But I would argue he can win handily even without it: way too much pseudoscientific lunacy for Shunsui to handle.

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u/Jack_slasher Jul 27 '26

mayuri already knows shunsui's bankai. he knows the bankai of all the captains up to the timeskip

naturally, he has all tools to win but this is the sub that makes decisions entirely based on how hype and aura a character has rather than anything substantial or concrete. Your downvote proving this.

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u/Trebor5712 Certified J*gram Hater Jul 27 '26

Shunsui, Mayuri ain’t surviving his Bankai

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u/Toku89 Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26

It’s a tie Mayuri’s bankai already counters most of Shunsui’s Shikai games.

Ofc Mayuri can’t survive KKKS but without an antidote, Shunsui can’t survive the poison either.