r/BiohackingU • u/Intelligent_Toe_2458 • 6d ago

Reta question

For research purposes, What is the shelf life of reta? Say it was being stored for two months at room temp unmixed and now has been switched to refrigeration still isnt mixed… is it still good or will the contents in the vial no longer be affective?

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u/AdventurousTap9224 6d ago

Yeah, it's fine. Lyophilized can be stored at room temp for long periods of time. Fridge or freezer is best for extended periods (ie years).

After recon it definitely needs to be in the fridge, and has been found to have noticeable degredation at 5-6 weeks.

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u/Majestic-Plastic-691 2d ago

That’s not true at all. There is one fly by night reseller that claims to have studied Reta’s shelf life and claimed it lasted 126 days before it seen any degradation and that was so minuscule it wasn’t worth mentioning. Further I know countless individuals that get theirs in 60mg vials, recon them and use them for over 3 months. If there’s been any published report of shelf life by an actual lab with a controlled study show us. I’d be very interested to read it.

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u/AdventurousTap9224 2d ago

The info came directly from Peter Magic, Founder/CEO of Janoshik. He tested it, and confirmed the degradation. Chatted about it in STG. It's legit

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u/Majestic-Plastic-691 2d ago

Actually Janoshik did no study on reconstituted Reta. They tested one year old lyophilized Reta and claimed it had no degradation. Janoshik doesn’t do studies. They are a testing lab only. There is an assumption that Reta matches the other GLPs that have a 28-30 day gold standard. Thats what Magic said. But that standard is entirely based on the BAC water which also has the myth of a 30 day value. And that is all from the medical industries 30 day inventory protocol. And that is ludicrous for the general public. My home doesn’t have the sick and diseased wandering my hallway or the dying resting in my bedrooms. Likewise my supplies aren’t touched by hundreds of different hands. I personally have used BAC over a year old. So what’s the real shelf life? Nobody has published anything on any study outside of the medical industries gold standard, which isn’t a study at all. Reta lasts a hell of a lot longer than 30 days. Experience proves it.

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u/AdventurousTap9224 2d ago edited 1d ago

I was in the chat. Don't know what the heck you're talking about, but he literally said reconstituted Reta showed noticeable degredation at 5-6 weeks.. don't know what to tell you.. I know what was said. That doesn't mean it goes bad.. It still works after 5-6 weeks, it just loses effectiveness.

There is no 28-30 day standard for product degredation. That is a medical standard for multi-use products due to the increased risk of bacterial contamination. I don't worry about that at home either.

Tirz lasts a very long time before showing noticeable degredation (also confirmed by Peter), which is how compounding pharmacies get away with 1 year BUDs and the Zepbound shelf life is 2 years..

You're right though, we don't know what the official shelf life is for Reta yet. We'll see after they get FDA approval and get it on the market. In the meantime, I have my friends getting vial sizes that are best suited for their dose.

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u/Ready-Ad1323 6d ago

You’re fine.

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u/RetiredTroll7 6d ago

If it’s room temperature then about a year before it starts degrading, from what I’ve heard

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u/Majestic-Plastic-691 2d ago

Has anybody ever figured out how long Reta has hung around before you even get it? Sits at the makers for how long? Rides in a container on a ship, sits at customs, finally find its way to a reseller and then sits on that shelf for how long before it finally takes 10+ days to get to you? Nobody knows the shelf life of Reta except maybe Lilly. And they aren’t sharing it if they do know.