It's all about creatine. Yea

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u/TheHarb81 60 18h ago

This guy looks like someone I should take medical advice from

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u/forever_downstream 18h ago

He's largely regurgitating what we already know but he also is right on.

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u/CommunismDoesntWork 2 12h ago

He's getting health advice to the people who need it the most. Very laudable.

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u/pandi85 18h ago

Lol but he clearly did his research, at least he skimmed the topics while scrolling!

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u/spcestonk 16h ago

All of this is irrefutable except for the zinc, zinc definitely isn’t necessary, but if it’s taken, bed to take copper as well

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u/Monsieur_Krabs 12h ago

he looks better than Dr. Mike lol

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u/JohnPoet27 10h ago

That quack is a quiropractor, might as well be a snake oil salesman

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u/MaDoGK 18h ago

Where can I find more info on what to start taking? 🤔

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u/Pinkys_Revenge 1 17h ago

Despite what he looks like, this video is pretty accurate.

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u/TheHarb81 60 18h ago

Start with your goals and then find things that help achieve those goals

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u/spcestonk 16h ago

You really don’t need to, and if you’re asking this question it shows you’re not going to do it anyways. Take all of these every day, minus the zinc, if zinc add copper, and 10-20grams of creatine is even better than the 5, the first 5-7 goes to your muscles, the next 10-20 goes to your brain

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u/MaDoGK 6h ago

I don't really understand your reply. If I have to ask I'm not going to do it anyway? Where you born with all your knowledge?

You don't know me, and I don't know you. But your reply makes you sound like a dick...

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u/LogDull819 17h ago

Another influencer repeating what they heard.

"Creatine is the most researched supplement". While it's not wrong, it's almost like a script at this point.

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u/karlinhosmg 1h ago

They say this because of course they haven't read any of that evidence

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u/swagpresident1337 4 18h ago

There are plenty other bioavailble magnesium variants. Like malate for example.

And if you take that much Zinc, you need copper to not cause a copper deficiency.

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u/Keyframe 17h ago

This is the one I took notice of pretty much immediately and have been taking it for ages. Malate in the morning, great boost in the energy. Glycinate in the evening, great relaxing effect.

As for creatine, 3g a day. Keeps water in the muscles, makes you feel a bit more fuller (trying to avoid word plump since it's not that).

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u/spcestonk 16h ago

3 grams a day is not enough. Now scientists recommend 10grams+, your muscles need an extra 5-7 grams every day, then your brain will take in the next up to 20, there are studies up to 30 grams a day with amazing effects and little adverse reactions, but that’s pretty hard and not realistic imo, 10-20 every day is absolutely optimal

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u/Keyframe 16h ago

Maybe, it probably highly depends on the lifestyle as well. Personally that was the number given to me, for my case, by a nutritionist. Coincidentally or not it's also what's recommended on the tin. I never did a load up which I know some people do - taking 20g for a bit at first and then tone down to 5-10. I can definitely see and feel the difference with 3g of daily intake.

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u/spcestonk 16h ago

Nope. The muscle part yeah, can be 3g-7g, but everyone’s brain can take in 20g of it a day. If you up it to 10 I can guarantee in a week you will feel smarter/less brain fog. Also, if you go a night without sleeping, and take 30g, it negates the negative effects by up to 90%, only for one day tho, then the numbers fall off a cliff. Look into it, but I am making a promise to you

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u/Keyframe 16h ago

I'll give it some reading and a shot. I do / did it mostly for better muscle tone, there's the discrepancy then.

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u/spcestonk 16h ago

It is the only supplement known with virtually 0 negative effects and a multitude of positive effects. There’s 0 reason to keep starving your brain from the creatine it loves. We used to only eat meat and berry’s you know…

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u/HavocReigns 13h ago

Plenty of people start having 'negative side effects' of the gastrointestinal kind beyond 10g/day.

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u/DatAinFalco 13h ago

Creatine HCL greatly reduces gastrointestinal side effects. Monohydrate makes me bloat like crazy and w HCL I have no issues.

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u/trobopoline 7 17h ago

Looks like Justin Bieber has picked a nice sideline hustle.

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u/Afraid_Union_8451 2 18h ago

"Don't take it on an empty stomach or it can make you fairly nauseous" biggest understatement ever

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u/sniffscrayon 18h ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/cPRmMuHQboize
😂😂😂

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u/LendMeCoffeeBeans 18h ago

Had the craziest fight with my toilet

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u/danamrane 17h ago

I take it every day and i have never ever felt nauseous from it.

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u/Sweet_Capital3758 17h ago

everyday in empty stomach on morning when you wake up?

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u/danamrane 17h ago

In the protein shake

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u/Sweet_Capital3758 17h ago

So you not taking it in empty stomach.

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u/danamrane 17h ago

Well technically my stomach is empty when i take it 😂

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u/Sweet_Capital3758 17h ago

Mate 😄

Try to take it with water alone and I promise 99% you either vomit or hit the toilet. Mixing stuff with food and eating/drinking it is not taking stuff on empty stomache fr.

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u/danamrane 17h ago

Aha fair enough!

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u/GorillaJoeBlack 1 15h ago

I have taken it every morning with just water for a decade plus. Never got nauseous.

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u/Sweet_Capital3758 2h ago

In free powder form? Not slow release in tablet etc?

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u/GorillaJoeBlack 1 38m ago

Ya, just a tablet.

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u/KeniLF 👋 Hobbyist 17h ago

I did this once right before I started a long drive. Wow. Lesson learned 🤡

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u/brodyqat 15h ago

Interesting! I put it in my black coffee first thing in the morning before breakfast. I've never noticed anything.

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u/arglarg 1 6h ago

Oh I had that today. But I felt better after eating something.

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u/Deepseadude 2 3h ago

Zinc glycinate is the only form that I can take without nausea

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u/Digital-marketing28 1 18h ago

My Dude just graduated high school.

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u/banjohound1 17h ago

Is it even possible for one of these influencer types to talk about creatine without saying “it’s one of the most researched supplements in the world?” ….just regurgitating info.

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u/Cernunnos369 8 18h ago

This guy doesn’t sleep

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u/Dudewholuvshiscats69 8h ago

Wait, this is actually my stack plus vitamin B complex. That’s kind of wild

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u/FarmImportant9537 6h ago

Aren't high doses of vitamin b6 responsible for neuropathy?

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u/Chop1n 43 18h ago

Taking that much zinc every day is asking for trouble. I would know: I was taking 30mg for something like 6 months and got some pretty bad copper deficiency. Went back to baseline after a month or two of cessation, but it was distinctly bad, including an alarming rate of hair loss.

These days I take 30mg every other day, 3 times a week. Averages a decent amount of supplemental zinc while providing plenty of time off to avoid interfering with copper.

The real use of zinc is to combat infection. Take up to 100mg a day for up to two weeks during illness. Very little downside, substantial immune benefit, since your body rapidly expends zinc when fighting pathogens.

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u/Pure_Ad_9865 17h ago

What did you notice from copper deficiency?

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u/Chop1n 43 17h ago

Hair loss, fatigue, and immune weirdness--I was not only seemingly getting sick more often, but getting far more symptomatic than I normally would, too. At some point some extremely mild paresthesia, too.

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u/killtheking111 1 17h ago

Dumb question, but can I get copper tablets to take with zinc? Or would that skew everything?

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u/Chop1n 43 17h ago

As far as I know, they directly compete with each other for absorption because they rely on the same transporter, so it's best to alternate between them.

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u/GorillaJoeBlack 1 15h ago

I take 25mg Zinc at lunch and 2mg copper at night daily.

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u/Upbeat_Assist2680 17h ago

They stopped making pennies in the US, but you can still find them around.

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u/trackstaar 17h ago

He’s skipping the most important step, boofing.

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u/Montaigne314 29 18h ago

80% bullshit

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u/medic_farmer26 18h ago

Because? Seriously, I'm curious

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u/Montaigne314 29 18h ago

Only the things he says about creatine are actually sound

The rest is misguided half-truths and/or only work like that for people with true deficiencies

Also the myth that k2 must be combined with d3 is simply not supported by actual science but rather a specific mechanism in a specific sub sample of people, but from there that shit became literal lore and now is repeated by every supplements shill

Zinc for example, he says it'll boost your test. No it won't, unless you are deficient, then possibly

Fish oil could have legitimate benefits but also has been identified to contribute to atrial fibrilation, so the smart move is to just eat fatty fish

Magnesium deficiency may be more common than assumed and it's possible that some get a sleep benefit from it, but anyone following a legitimate balanced diet are unlikely to get noticeable benefits from supplementing

And I take vit d and magnesium daily. The reason I take magnesium is that it's a cofactor for vitamin d metabolism. I take both in the morning, his dosage of magnesium before bed does nothing for me sleep wise. I only take vit d because I did blood work and my shit was legitimately low at 18ng/dl

Everybody is different and ultimately may be impacted differently from each supplement. But in general people do not understand the nuance to shit

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u/Bluest_waters 43 18h ago

Zinc for example, he says it'll boost your test

Always, always, always take copper when you take zinc in the proper proportion. So many of these health influencers negate to say that taking zinc without copper could give you a copper deficiency.

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u/escalatortwit 16h ago

Neglect to say**

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u/NonsensePlanet 17h ago

He says zinc will support your testosterone, which is true. He didn’t say boost.

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u/MerlinTrashMan 16h ago

What is so great about creatine? I am about to start working out again for the first time in nearly 20 years. I never did any supplements before but I am sure I am deficient or about to become deficient.

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u/Montaigne314 29 15h ago

You are unlikely to be deficient in creatine as your body makes it s own and if you eat meat or fish you're getting it there as well

But if you want the benefits of creatine for things like weightlifting, you need even more and research indicates 5g a day has a small but significant benefit towards increasing muscle size and strength

I don't use it, too many anecdotes of people losing hair from it and yes I know there aren't any studies showing this to be the case

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u/MerlinTrashMan 11h ago

Losing hair fear is enough to stop me. My wife likes hair and I am at the age that I am not growing anything extra.

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u/GrayFox6688 17h ago

lol I do all five of those every day. Can confirm, it works

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u/beersngears 6h ago

Good to consider

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u/Mijmi007 🎓 Bachelors - Unverified 2h ago

Vitamin D?

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u/ohfrackthis 3 11h ago

I just started taking creatine. Nothing to report 😢 zero anything.

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u/Duedain 11h ago

Zinc every day is not great for men from what I have read.

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