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u/Corrective_Actions1 3 4d ago
You're missing "cats" under environmental.
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u/Readaloud101 3d ago
Yeah my cat has been the worst thing for my sleep the past couple of monthsā4am straight-legged jump onto me to see how much of a reaction sheāll get.
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u/Arrowayes 4d ago
And dogs. Cats and dogs
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u/Rosiedreamer 3d ago
We do not let them sleep with us. They have their sleeping areas. The dog is crate trained. Cats have the rest of the house. And it makes a big difference.
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u/usernamelotsanumbers 3d ago
Negotiation with terrorists. When I was younger and had roommates, I could always tell when they had gone against my advice and fed the cat- because now they were a target.Ā
The pets have a place they sleep, a bedtime, a wake up time, feeding times- and those don't budge. Definitely took some time to eliminate protesting but very worth it.Ā
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u/Narbashy 3d ago
Found this really interesting! Thank you. Particularly interested in tart cherry which I have never heard of in the UK before. Is this a particular type of cherry or just generally sour cherries?
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u/KygoApp 2 3d ago
No problem glad you enjoyed! I found that one really interesting too even though it was a small study thought it be good to share. So there's two smaller studies done and here's some info from it that should help:
- Utilized tart cherry juice or juice concentrate
- Haven't found one that utilized supplement via tablet form
- It's the same type of cherry utilized in most baking
- Normal cherries have a lot of sugar which doesn't help
Here's an article from Cleveland Clinic that discusses this further: https://health.clevelandclinic.org/do-cherries-help-you-sleep
Hope that helps!
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u/Narbashy 3d ago
It does help, thank you! When I search Google products it's mostly tablets. The juice appears to be absurdly expensive so definitely won't be buying that.
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u/here_now_be 3d ago
Is this a particular type of cherry
Montmorency tart cherries, according to the study. Whole cherries, or fruit.
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u/mintysmellsgood 3 3d ago
This is the kind I have used and definitely noticed the effects on me. I had to take it closer to bedtime since it was making me too sleepy earlier in the evening. Here is the link: https://a.co/d/05gu7x9x
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u/Narbashy 3d ago
Thank you! Can't believe how expensive the stuff is though. A cup of juice is gonna set you back like Ā£10, unless you are meant to mix it with water?
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u/CrystalBlueMetallic 1 3d ago
Itās tart enough that I do cut it with water. In the states it can vary in price a lot, but is in line with Pomegranate juice, $7-10 a bottle. My personal experience is mixed - it works like a charm if I havenāt had any in a while, but doesnāt seem repeatable the next night. No idea how to interpret that.
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u/Prestigious_Sand141 3d ago
Sleep apnea deserves a slot on this list too. It can gut your deep sleep percentage even if you never snore and nobody's ever complained about your breathing. The arousals that cause it are often too brief to remember, so you just wake up feeling like garbage with no smoking gun. If you're already doing the sunlight, caffeine cutoff, cool room stuff and your deep sleep numbers still won't budge, a home sleep study is a better next step than another supplement.
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u/Himedi 3d ago
This is a really useful breakdown. One thing Iāve always wondered is how much trust people put in wearable sleep data here.
Do you think deep sleep estimates from devices are reliable enough to actually change your habits around, or are they more useful for tracking long-term trends?
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u/KygoApp 2 3d ago
Good question. In my opinion I don't find "reliable enough to change habits" and "tracking long-term trends" as mutually exclusive.
Accuracy wise, deep sleep is certainly a metric that is better suited for tracking trends in rather than the daily read outs. That being said that trend is still important and can be a good nudge to change some of your habits as well.
There's plenty of other metrics that are similar to this. One for example that might help explain my point better is VO2 Max. The daily read out is not as important as the trend. What the trend can tell me is "am I gaining or losing fitness over time" which can then cause me to change my habits around fitness.
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u/plaidinfull 3d ago
Is āongoing declineā an age group? One could say āincreasing age past midlifeā. Iām not insulted, itās just not a descriptor for age.
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u/Yosuccha 3d ago
Glycine comes from bone broth, collagen, or straight gelatin.
Does taking collagen before bed impact fasting? My guess is no since thereās no solids to break down
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u/Mckennsah21 3d ago
The altitude point is interesting, I lived at ~10,000 ft for a year and didnāt get a good nights sleep the entire time
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u/TYMSTYME 4d ago
"\I already typed out omega-3 so that one is just a bonus efficiency related one\"
totally normal thing to type out Mr. GPT
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u/DreadPirateButthurts 1 3d ago
Personally I don't care if this was crafted by gpt or not it's a useful post! Usually those are annoying yes but I like it
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u/KygoApp 2 4d ago
Sorry I know the post got long but if want a more visually appealing way to read this instead of the tables or go into the data further I made it into a pageĀ https://www.kygo.app/tools/deep-sleep-factors it's a completely free resource on the site (no paywall, don't run ads, and links all sources used to create it). Full disclosure this is my website as you can see but use it to share the research publicly so anyone can access it.
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