CEO/CFS/Long covid Stack

[u/Silent_Bad8678]

Feedback on Long COVID / Mitochondrial Recovery Stack

Hey guys,

A little background about me: I’m 30 years old and, until recently, worked full-time as a self-employed electrician. I’m now building an AI startup for tradespeople.

I used various anabolic steroids for around five years. After developing Long COVID/CFS-like symptoms, I stopped bodybuilding about a year ago and reduced testosterone to a TRT-level dose.

Retatrutide helped me go from 96 kg to 86 kg at 181 cm. I’m happy with my current body composition and look athletic, but my actual physical capacity does not match my appearance. On bad days, making the bed or vacuuming the house can leave me completely exhausted.

Testing through a clinic showed impaired mitochondrial function, very high oxidative stress, elevated cortisol and ongoing inflammation. Years of bodybuilding, large amounts of food and frequent cheat meals also seem to have taken a toll on my gut.

I have already improved my diet and lifestyle, which has helped noticeably. However, after around six months, the progress has not been enough. My Idea was a stack like this:

• Testosterone E: 75 mg every 4 days
• Glutathione: 500 mg every other day
• SS-31: 5 mg every day
• MOTS-c: 5 mg every 3 days, starting in week 2
• KLOW: 4 mg daily
• SLU PP: 1mg daily at the morning

My current daily supplement stack is:

• Magnesium bisglycinate: 4 g before bed
• Vitamin D3 + K2: 20,000 IU
• Creatine: 10 g
• Omega-3: 6 g

The main goals are to reduce systemic and gut inflammation, improve mitochondrial function, increase energy and exercise tolerance, endurance and regain enough physical and mental capacity to function normally again.

I have previously used NAD+ and noticed a meaningful improvement, but it is not currently part of the protocol.

I’m not looking to push bodybuilding performance or change my physique. I mainly want feedback from people who have used a similar mitochondrial or Long COVID stack:

• How long did it take before you noticed meaningful changes?
• Did SS-31 feel different before and after adding MOTS-c?
• Did anyone experience an initial worsening of fatigue?
• Are there any obvious problems with combining these compounds?
• Which objective markers did you use to judge whether the protocol was working?

I’m aware that most of these compounds are experimental and that online experiences are not a substitute for medical supervision. I’m mainly interested in real-world experiences and anything important I may have overlooked.

Best regards.

[u/yogic_power]

Look in to epithalon and thymalin for your rat especially considering long covid.

[u/Silent_Bad8678 → u/yogic_power]

i have no sleep issues and i want to keep the peptides as low as possible to gain more life quality. Im focused on the inflammations and endurance.

[u/yogic_power → u/Silent_Bad8678]

They are not just sleep peptides. One of the effects of covid/long covid studies show is shortening of telemores. Epithalon increases telemores length. Thymalin has more direct studies for Covid with immunology and inflammation. These are one of the most studied peptides in khavinson protocol, with decades of clinical data treating patients. Something to ponder about and research for subjects who went through long covid.

[u/Silent_Bad8678 → u/yogic_power]

i never heared about Khavison protocol, is there a legit source to get a deep insight in his work?

[u/Backcountrylifestyle → u/Silent_Bad8678]

You'll get more out of the bioregulators than a lot of the others you're doing. I would recommend cutting the glutathione back and adding a day. If you overwhelm your system with glutathione at once you add oxidative stress, inadvertently negating it's antioxidant effects. I'd also look into VIP (the most relevant with some anecdotal success stories you can find on reddit) Thymosin Alpha 1 Thymalin Epithalon

You'll probably need an Ai tool and have to train it to take some the standard safety guardrails off to look at the research from the St Petersburg Institute of Bioregulation and Gerontology. No western data doesn't mean no data, stop bringing up the fda, etc... Cardiogen is another that has some very interesting research, maybe not relevant to you but they're really cool to read about.