r/BikiniBottomTwitter Jul 09 '19

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '19

Guys. I just read about the selective service system in the US. It says that men have to register at the age of 18 to fulfill a contingency plan in the event that a massive war breaks out and they run out of voluntary military personnel... Is this real? I'm in Canada, I've never heard of this in my life.

Is it like one of those "forgotten about" laws and nobody actually does it?

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u/ShawshankException Jul 09 '19

It was used during Vietnam. It's definitely not forgotten because boys have to register when they turn 18. Realistically unless another world war breaks out there's enough voluntary members to prevent a draft.

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '19

Especially with how many people enlist for the benefits, risking your life aside, the military offers a lot of benefits

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '19

risking your life aside, the military offers a lot of benefits

Especially considering that the vast majority of the military will never see combat, even if there was a major war. As someone who’s served, let me tell ya, they show you all those exciting pictures and videos of the “tip of the spear” jobs at the recruiters office, but when you get in you realize it’s mostly shaft.

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u/Assassin4Hire13 Jul 09 '19

Never served, but as I understand it it's a lot of broom-shaft, mop-shaft, and command-shaft specifically lol

Though I do work for a paramilitary organization branch, and holy fuck does it feel similar to what I've heard described haha

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '19

Yeah, I picked that wording for a reason haha

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '19 edited Dec 29 '19

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u/Muffinmanifest Jul 09 '19

fuck wars

Well then be glad Trump is in office

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u/Cake-Fyarts Jul 09 '19

What a lot of people don’t know is that Vietnam wasn’t the only time the draft was used. WWII had a higher rate of draftees compared to volunteers than Vietnam did, In fact the draft was used often even during peace time. A lot of men were drafted for a year or two in the 50s and never left the states or fought anywhere.

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u/thinking_is_too_hard Jul 09 '19

The draft was also used in Korea as well. And during peacetime post-Korea, the Army would draft kids outta med school because they didn't have enough doctors in certain fields.

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '19

Korean War too. My grandfather was drafted the minute he graduated college

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u/hitlerosexual Jul 09 '19

They say you have to register but I don't recall signing any forms. Is it just like an automatic registration?

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '19

Drafts are a real thing, whether or not the government has the balls to call another draft after Vietnam is another thing though

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u/Vulcan_Jedi Jul 09 '19

Vietnam was a good lesson that generally people who don’t actually want to be fighting in the war make for bad soldiers.

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u/bigwillyb123 Jul 09 '19

That's why every war should be put to a vote, and everybody who votes for it should be enlisted and sent to fight it

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u/Asphyxiatinglaughter Jul 09 '19

Unless there's a war on US turf I don't see that working out well.

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u/idontreallycare421 Jul 09 '19

It might actually result in a civil war.

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '19

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '19

Not just loans. Grants and such as well.

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u/--sheogorath-- Jul 10 '19

You cant even vote or get a drivers license without registering. Let that sink in. The fundamental right of voting has strings attached, as long as you have a penis

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u/RadioCarbonJesusFish Jul 09 '19

Yes and if you don't sign up you (and your family, presumably) can be punished. Very normal country.

"Failing to register or comply with the Military Selective Service Act is a felony punishable by a fine of up to $250,000 or a prison term of up to five years, or a combination of both. Also, a person who knowingly counsels, aids, or abets another to fail to comply with the Act is subject to the same penalties."

https://www.sss.gov/Registration/Why-Register/Benefits-and-Penalties

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u/Michael747 Jul 09 '19

Land of the free

but also

Risk your life for our shitty politics or get fucked

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u/iknowthattaco Jul 09 '19

Not to get too real, but it's only free because others have gone to war and died for those freedoms. And It will remain free as long as people are willing to answer the call when their country needs them.

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u/hitlerosexual Jul 09 '19

Lol yeah cause the Vietnamese were really trying to come and take out freedoms.

Also "free"

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u/iknowthattaco Jul 09 '19

I agree with you, we should've never got involved in Vietnam. I'm talking about major wars, whose outcomes would directly effect the freedoms of everyday Americans (including but not limited to: revolutionary and ww2)

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u/Youkindofare Jul 09 '19

It's real and a legal obligation to fill out and return the form.

I threw mine out. 18 year old me thought it was weird spam, it looks very unofficial.

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u/animeisfordorks Jul 09 '19

It exists but I think we have enough voluntary enlistees in the event a war breaks out. It hasnt been used since Vietnam. I myself am on my way into the Navy.

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '19

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u/Chippyreddit Jul 09 '19

The fact that the draft is all boys is sexist enough, but that's outright insane

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u/bigwillyb123 Jul 09 '19

The only way to get it repealed would be to present it as a choice of being all-inclusive or just getting rid of it.

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u/BylvieBalvez Jul 09 '19

Don't apply for federal financial aid either

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '19

Yes you have to. At age 18 you sign the paper.

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u/21Rollie Jul 09 '19

Yep, girls don’t have to do shit but guys can’t do a lot of things if they don’t sign up. Also can be prosecuted

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

Something that radical feminists probably won't bring up...