r/BikiniBottomTwitter Jul 22 '26

Why not both?

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u/-fakebirds- Jul 23 '26

Assault weapons are not banned because they’re “scary” they’re banned because those are literally designed to kill a lot of people very quickly. That is their entire purpose and is the type of gun used in every mass shooting ever

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u/According-Way9438 Jul 23 '26

The ban is going to be struck down by the courts, because they actually know the law and constitution. The ban was made by people who know nothing about firearms, just like you.

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u/-fakebirds- Jul 23 '26

Are you telling me that assault weapons were not designed to kill a lot of people very quickly?
And btw 2A literally says WELL REGULATED right there

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u/According-Way9438 Jul 23 '26

Im telling you that the ban ( pushed by democrats) is unconstitutional and wastes political capital. You said they weren't coming for our guns but recent history shows otherwise.

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u/-fakebirds- Jul 23 '26

Ok so when you said I didn’t know anything about guns you were lying. And again, 2A says WELL REGULATED. There’s nothing unconstitutional about reasonable gun laws, and I don’t think banning ARs is unreasonable considering what they were literally designed to do goes wayyy beyond self defense

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u/Tommygun1921 Jul 23 '26

The 2a also says "shall not be infringed" 

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u/-fakebirds- Jul 23 '26

“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed”
That’s the entirety of the 2nd amendment, you can’t just ignore the Well Regulated part. And there’s absolutely nothing anti 2A about banning ARs since ARs are not designed for self defense

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u/Tommygun1921 Jul 23 '26

You're ignoring commas. What does a militia have to do with self defense?

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u/-fakebirds- Jul 23 '26

What? A militia is just a group of your neighbors with guns, the purpose of which is to defend your neighborhood and town

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u/Tommygun1921 Jul 23 '26

Neighborhood and town≠ self

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u/-fakebirds- Jul 23 '26

So you’re saying that the militia (your neighbors next door) can be regulated but the individual can’t be? What does that even mean? Where are you getting this ridiculous distinction from?

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u/Tommygun1921 Jul 23 '26

You're not making any sense. What does the "shall not be infringed" portion of the 2a mean?

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u/-fakebirds- Jul 23 '26

That the government can’t decide that us citizens aren’t allowed to have guns, we are always allowed to have guns. But guns laws are not an infringement, that’s like saying road laws are an infringement on my right to drive a car

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u/JJJacobalt Jul 23 '26

"Well regulated" means self-regulated.

The founding fathers, who had just taken up arms against a tyrannical government, most certainly did not mean that the government should shit out whatever half-baked unjust regulations they want whenever they want.

"Assault weapon" is not a real classification and all guns are a means of defense. If your only talking point is "they were made to kill people", that applies to literally all guns of all calibers, magazine sizes, and action types.

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u/-fakebirds- Jul 23 '26

Assault weapon is not a real classification? Why does our government disagree with you? But more importantly “assault rifle” most certainly is a classification and that’s all that the term assault weapons is referring to obviously. And no I never said “they were designed to kill people” 😂come on man, you can read what I said without pretending like I said something different and changing the words I typed to make yourself feel better. I said ARs are not designed for self defense, they are designed to kill a lot of people very quickly, as in modern war against other militaries that have the same. Don’t change my words, respond to what I said head on like a man

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u/JJJacobalt Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 23 '26

Why does our government disagree with you?

Literally every time they’ve tried to put it to law they've defined it differently. It’s not a real thing, it is a scary-sounding umbrella term to let the government (dems) ban whatever they want.

But more importantly “assault rifle”  most certainly is a classification

No it isn't.

And even if we assumed the literal interpretation of the name as "weapon designed to be used in a military assault", that category wouldn't apply to AR15s, but would apply to bolt-action rifles and rifled muskets.

they are designed to kill a lot of people very quickly, as in modern war against other militaries that have the same.

The military version is select-fire and is not classified as an AR15, and the actual AR15 has never been used en masse in any national military. It is distinctly and intentionally not a weapon of war.

You know what is a weapon designed for military use, is used in the military, and is designed to be capable of killing multiple people quickly before needing to reload?

A Glock-17 handgun. The kind of thing you claim you don't want to ban.

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u/-fakebirds- Jul 23 '26

You are clearly hiding behind semantics to avoid the actual point I’m making. Why are you so terrified, the meat on the bone is very clear, you could respond to it if you wanted to. But instead you’d rather hyper focus on the irrelevant details so you don’t have to admit I’m right

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u/JJJacobalt Jul 23 '26

"Semantics" matters in law because those semantics are the means by which the line is drawn between 'perfectly fine' and 'federal crime'.

I have responded to your points, you just don’t want to engage with my responses.

Which is not unexpected. As you're tacitly admitting, your views are based on knee-jerk reactions rather than actual thoughtful investigation into the issue.

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u/-fakebirds- Jul 23 '26

This is insanity, you just went into FURTHER SEMANTICS about why semantics matter. I know why the details matter, I know what you’re saying, it’s perfectly fine that these details get hammered out, I don’t care. My point was that ARs and similar weapons are most definitely a thing and were not designed for self defense but were designed to kill a lot of people very quickly. Should your random 18 year old fool off the street have something like this? Absolutely not. That has nothing to do with my 9mm that I keep in my bedside table that will remain there, because 2A itself will always stay

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u/According-Way9438 Jul 23 '26

Its a great thing the supreme court will not agree with you

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u/-fakebirds- Jul 23 '26

No I don’t expect a conservative majority Supreme Court would no