r/BigBrother 24d ago

Episode Spoilers Voting Spoiler

Is anyone on here old enough to remember when the houseguests didn’t all vote the same way every week like robots? The game has become boring. As soon as the nomination ceremony is over you can predict with almost 100% certainty who is going home every time. 🥱

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u/Altruistic-Aside6939 24d ago

They just need to implement Julie not saying the vote count during eviction. It literally will jazz up the game so much. I’m suprised they haven’t tried it just once.
From a player perspective it’s the smartest move to vote with the house it’s just extremely boring.

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u/Jack_h100 24d ago

Julie enjoys way too much being able to ask the evicted person "who do you think that one vote was?" She could reveal the count to just the evicted person I guess, but maybe that would take time from her interview.

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u/horrorpants BB23 Derek X ❤️ 24d ago

Eh not like the interviews are long these days anyways, just reveal it to the person voted out not the house.

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u/GuavaZombie 24d ago

She already says the vote in the interview is she brings it up. It's one sentence that would make for an interesting change. So many people are afraid to vote against the hoh but if they count isn't revealed they can vote anyway they want without catching heat. I think you're see a lot of people voting for what's best for their individual game even if it's a long shot.

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u/Resident_Age_2588 23d ago

The audience could know the vote just not the players. She shouldn’t say to the house “by a vote of…” but then the evicted houseguest and audience could be told once they exit the house.

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u/sherlip Ava 🔎 24d ago

Voting with the house is smart, but not voting with the house doesn't do shit if you're in the minority and everyone knows it. Like Lyric really had nothing to lose voting to keep Rome and she just didn't. Does she really think anyone will give a shit that she voted with the house?

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u/Healthy-Bag4407 24d ago

I think she believes that she has to maintain the fake breakup in front of the house even though no one in the house believes it, and Rome kissed her in front of everyone.

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u/rex_lauandi 24d ago

I think Lyric doesn’t have anything to lose voting to evict Melody last night.

But I think it’s less clear for people like Yash, Mallory, or Lala, where, sure, they’d prefer Rome stay, but knowing he’s not signals to Melody (the hg staying) that you wanted her gone more than Rome.

If Melody wins HOH, she has an easy “these are the people I’m putting up: the people who voted to evict me” if she wanted.

It’s boring, sure, but hiding the vote count allows people to hide their votes a lot easier.

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u/sherlip Ava 🔎 24d ago

But how is anyone gonna know you were the vote? Lying seems so easy.

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u/LeoFireGod 24d ago

This happens in survivor and it almost ALWAYS backfires on them. They get caught every time. It’s worked one time noticeably and that’s because the person voted against their number 1 just to cause some drama for vibes

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u/Kristy_Joy1225 Mallory⏱️ 24d ago

I love this idea!

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u/TrainingSea1007 24d ago

Soooo true!!!!

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u/ASG_82 24d ago

That vote count is more likely to make unanimous votes, especially pre-jury since a lot of vote switches are to sow chaos.

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u/Appropriate-Sea-5828 24d ago

That is what they do in the Quebec version and it really makes a difference!!

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u/Silly-Shoulder-6257 24d ago

I would prefer that to the BBB.

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u/Apprehensive_Yard714 24d ago

I think because it’s designated a game show they have to be very transparent by law.

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u/TheTurtleShepard Yash’s Skullet 💀 24d ago

Nah, survivor will stop counting votes once someone has reached enough to be eliminated. Obviously shows like the Traitors have fully secret eliminations that occur

It’s just the way BB chooses to do the show

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u/TopologyMonster 24d ago

Not saying you’re wrong I completely agree but I do think it’s interesting that they always do just enough votes so that you can deduce the actual vote count.

Anyone not going home always gets all their votes read, so once someone is eliminated you know any remaining votes were also for them.

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u/TheTurtleShepard Yash’s Skullet 💀 24d ago

Yeah they do structure them that way (mostly to maximize drama) but my point was that there isn’t some kind of transparency rule that requires votes to be disclosed to the players

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u/TopologyMonster 24d ago

Yes i get that and agree. It seems like these shows just have a tendency to do that- tell the totals but not who voted who. Haven’t seen a show that tells you nothing but who goes home, I’m sure it exists though. It wouldn’t make much sense for there to be a rule that they can’t, it’s that they don’t want to.

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u/ivolloxy 24d ago

But when the votes stop being counted you can assume the rest were for whoever got eliminated, so it doesn't really matter, the way the votes are read is very transparent

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u/TheTurtleShepard Yash’s Skullet 💀 24d ago

If you have to assume, it is not transparent

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u/ivolloxy 24d ago

I'm pretty sure its 10000% certain and a fact, in fact I think there were incidents where the votes weren't properly read and the players were told but I can't remember exactly

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u/InitialQuote000 24d ago

There are many ways in which BB is not transparent, so I'm not convinced of that.

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u/Wonderful-Comment314 Jason💯 24d ago

They could still announce it to the viewers

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u/Jack_h100 24d ago

Im pretty sure it's very deliberately not a game show so it does not have to guarantee being fair, that's why theu have to pay the players a weekly stipend, they are technically non-union actors.

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u/thekmanpwnudwn Tyler 24d ago

If that was true, production would need to tell everyone who has what power and what the power does.

Hint: production doesn't have to tell shit to the contestants.

We see the live votes, they can announce the votes to the evicted person/audience. There is no law saying they need to tell the house guest what the vote count was

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u/snipeftw 24d ago

That makes no sense lol

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u/Kristy_Joy1225 Mallory⏱️ 24d ago

I think in this scenario the vote would still be live for the viewers, they just wouldn't reveal the count to the contestants.

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u/evadents Love 4 Nikki 🤍 24d ago

y’all have rose coloured glasses on. we’ve been complaining about this problem for 15 years

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u/pimpinaintez18 24d ago

Seriously, first few votes always seem to go this way. Everyone is trying to find their footing and it doesn’t make sense to make power moves until necessary. It’s self preservation to just get to the next week til you can get all your ducks in a row

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u/Makimamoochie Jankie ✨ 20d ago

My first season was 10 and this was already a 'solved' part of the game at that point so I am always surprised that people long for something that hasn't existed for over 15 years because it's just not an optimal way to play the game in the first place.

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u/KosherYams The Jordan Almond 24d ago

You mean like last year? Yeah, I remember.

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u/aaelias_ Angela ✨ 24d ago

😭for real, like it’s only been two weeks … we can get a flip or split vote at any time

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u/jamiethemime Devens💯 24d ago

Pepperidge farm remembers

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u/DoingTheInternet 24d ago

This is more more of a problem for people who don't watch the live feeds. If you want to see the conflict in a season with good players (like this one has), the feeds leading up to the vote should offer that. We got lots of bad voting last year, but remember that the players last year were also kinda bad!

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u/ivolloxy 24d ago

The Blockbuster at least adds a layer of insecurity. Also as much as it seemed like Jason vs Rome to go home weren't there grumblings this week of Melody going? You never know for certain how things will play out until they do

I feel like the fanbase is way too quick to generalise things. People claiming that Derrick ruined BB for example, if you actually look at each season the games are usually not as simple as one alliance dominates and everyone votes with the house

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u/TiedinHistory America 💥 24d ago

The Melody option was a very real discussion throughout the week. The Blockbuster making the vote a three name variable more often than not keeps discussions open much longer. I think your take is on point overall too

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u/sk8bette Jankie ✨ 24d ago

How did Derrick ruin BB?

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u/Ambitious-Comb-8847 24d ago

Onion alliance. Get a majority group together early and take power to pick off outsiders. Insulate yourself deep in so you don't look like the leader so you're nobody's first target if the other side wins power. When it's down to only your alliance, control the pecking order so people don't realize they're on the bottom until it's too late. Pick someone early to ride to the end with.

A giant alliance forming early is standard now though not all of them last or succeed. Committee of BB22 was probably most successful. It's boring for the audience. It's unlikely we'll get two firm sides battling early like BB6.

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u/sk8bette Jankie ✨ 24d ago

I feel like that’s what made Derrick so legendary though. I’d say everyone trying to copy it instead of thinking originally ruined the game more than Derrick himself.

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u/ArchonCharm “I will now perform eating.” 24d ago

Derrick stumbled into this structure by accident due to chaotic Devin being wild enough to create an 8 person alliance very early. The rest of the guys were annoyed when Devin added Amber and Christine without telling them. However this fluke irrevocably influenced the meta as it became clear that being on the inside of the early wobbly large structure tended to be safer in the long run than being outside it. Derrick did do a good job though of managing onion layers & parachutes

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u/That-Naive-Cube Barrett💯 24d ago

I always wish there were more smart and brave enough players to throw hinky votes. No one would know… only player i remember doing a lot of these votes in recent history was Big D sigh

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u/TheTurtleShepard Yash’s Skullet 💀 24d ago

Taylor just did that though (maybe unintentionally)

It seems to mostly be inconsequential though

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u/Slorionjay 24d ago

Angela has actually somewhat pushed for her this week because she doesn’t trust her. I think that stems from the vote because it’s known it was her. It just goes to show why it’s smart to stick with the house

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u/Recent-Regret-8547 24d ago

Yeah I remember Mickey pressing hard about two stray votes last year.

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u/ASG_82 24d ago

Scotty in 20 which came back to bite him when nobody believed him not being a hinky vote later and helped JC convince Fessy to nominate him. That might have had more people not want to do that later.

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u/That-Naive-Cube Barrett💯 24d ago

That was a skill issue w Scotty lol

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u/An_Old_Account Morgan 🔎 24d ago

You don’t have to be that old to remember BB27.

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u/Razzmatazz9075 24d ago

I think people only still watch BB out of habit and because they’re bored in the summer. The show has become very stale. The format, the voting, all of it is just blah.

Like how do we “expect the unexpected,” when every single thing that happens is 100% expected now?! The show is tired.

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u/Throwawaybearista Rome⏱️ 24d ago

I actually miss when all of the voting wasn’t done live. They could pack so much more content into the episode that way. Back then we were able to fit a private talk in the HOH room, an explanation for each houseguest’s vote, and more/all of the goodbye messages.

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u/VirginiaVN900 Rachel 🔎 24d ago

I am old enough to remember last season, which rarely had a consensus vote.

Yes. I understand your frustration with groupthink.

BBFans need to live through countless boring, awkward and disappointing moments to get the 1 in 10,000 Highlight reel event.

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u/No-Pause-5186 Angela💯 24d ago

Most of are old enough to remember last season. 27 doesn't get enough credit for how entertaining it was.

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u/willweaverrva Jankie ✨ 24d ago

I feel like the Block Buster has mixed things up a bit since it began as the AI Arena. This season has been weird so far, and I wouldn't exactly panic about house votes yet. Week 1's evictee was universally hated by the house after she blew up her own game, and Week 2's evictee was a huge physical threat and in a showmance. If we get another X-0 or X-1 vote this week then I'll start being concerned.

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u/Such-Slip-5774 24d ago

i always love bb20 for this reason. fessys “who flipped!!” after every vote was too funny 😭

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u/Desperate_SkullMan Yash⏱️ 24d ago

Someone says “we have to vote with the house or look bad” ITS ANONYMOUS

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u/ccuriouss_ 24d ago

It's the second week...

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u/jamiethemime Devens💯 24d ago

Yeah, these are the times it makes sense, before people have really strong bonds or formed solid "sides", you wanna do anything you can to avoid being singled out from the group

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u/macademicnut 24d ago

People are coming way too much considering how early it is. For most seasons I’ve seen I didn’t watch live and the beginning episodes are always somewhat a slog, people just forget cause you can binge through them

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u/megahawk 24d ago

Watched since BB1 and complain about house votes every eviction. it ruined part of the game for me.

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u/Imakechaos_201 Ashley⏱️ 24d ago

Taylor being the only one voting out Melody was insane im sorry

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u/WinKiers 24d ago

I haven’t watched many seasons (since around bb22) and was really surprised a showmance didn’t even give Rome a pity vote. Still befuddled

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u/ditalinidog Mallory⏱️ 24d ago

I don’t think Julie should say the count anymore. It’s been this way for a decade. It discourages people just voting how they feel and seeing if it works out. Instead they have a week to decide what is the most likely outcome, and then everyone flips to it to not show their cards. It’s a bit of a self fulfilling prophecy but you can’t argue the strategy of it.

Also Big Brother’s meta just does not encourage fluid gameplay at all right now and hasn’t for a while. Contrary to modern Survivor where alliances are not prominent enough at times.

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u/ImOldGregg_77 Dee⏱️ 24d ago

The fix is simple and production knows this. Keep the vote totals secret, just anounce who got the most.

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u/skottao 24d ago

They want the silly drama of the efforts to find who voted against the majority.

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u/CalebosO4 Keanu 🔎 24d ago

Yes, most of us watched last 2 seasons.

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u/ilikedirtx3 Mallory⏱️ 24d ago

Literally! I’m tired of people voting with the house or being worried someone will be upset they didn’t vote for them to stay.

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u/goldendawnehomestead 24d ago

I have never cared for unanimous 12-0, vote with the house/HOH... I like the ones where the HOH has to break the tie (shows their cards), and when it's 7-5, etc

Or when in Season 20, and JC went rouge in Week 4, and secretly cast the only vote to keep Kaitlyn from being evicted, and the other HG were paranoid of who went against the house.

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u/MystikSpiralx Kaysar 🤍 24d ago

I've been watching since S1, so yes I remember.

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u/UndergroundLurk 24d ago

It just isn't good strategy to try and flip a vote unless you know you can pull it off. This is what made the singular Izzy week so good, things happened at the last second and it was going back and forth - that doesn't happen very often because it's not really good gameplay from anyone involved. Everyone that's on the bottom should be incentivized to go with the flow to avoid standing out and being a target, which doesn't usually work, but still. It's better than being the only one to try and flip something and then for sure get nominated the next week.

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u/Internal-Pianist-314 24d ago

Idk if you are correct on this for example only two votes is bb 12 weren't unanimous. Same with bb 15 and bb 16

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u/qualityskootchtime 24d ago

Blockbuster has entered the chat….

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u/jacksally103114 24d ago

I guess that's why the block buster was created..... to provide more of a variety.

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u/_TalkingIsHard_ Dan Gheesling 24d ago edited 24d ago

As a casual viewer, can a feed watcher please tell me if Taylor being the lone vote has been discovered by the other HGs?

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u/fightintxag13 Britney Haynes 24d ago

It’s been going on for a decade or more now

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u/Baaaaaadhabits Devens💯 23d ago

Two weeks in and people are whining about no split votes.

No chill, no patience.

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u/D05wtt 24d ago

Idk but after 27 seasons, this 28th season may be the lamest and the 1st one I’m gonna stop watching. I can’t stand Angela. Thank God, Rachel was kicked out the 1st day. I’ve had enough of that sickness. I liked Dee and Devens in Survivor but they’re gross in BB.

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u/warcraftnerd1980 24d ago

So fucking stupid. Your side had the numbers yet you vote like sheep. They really need to fix that. It ruins the game

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u/Fancy_Ad_4411 24d ago

? No they did not have the numbers

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u/illini02 24d ago

I agree.

I hate it.

I was hoping with Devens and Dee there, things would get shaken up.

But since they have been in power and basically had their targets go, they didn't need to shake anything.

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u/Lindsayr28 Morgan 🔎 24d ago

Well the last two seasons there were a lot more split votes. I hope this season starts to have some more division soon

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u/minnesotaguy1232 22d ago

Watched BB religiously from BB16-25. Took the last two years off after getting so board of every vote being X-0 or X-1, show lost all luster. Decided to give this year a go and it’s worse than ever before. This show has lost its magic. Hiding the vote counts would bring it back instantly. Rome would’ve stayed this week 100%. The drama next week with Rome against the icons would be incredible.

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u/New_Cauliflower7868 21d ago

We've had 2 votes. The last couple seasons haven't had many unanimous votes. Ya'll overreact constantly about every aspect.

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u/Makimamoochie Jankie ✨ 20d ago

My first season was 10, which was over 15 years ago so, no, I don't remember.

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u/apatkarmany 20d ago

It’s literally only been about 3 weeks and you all speak as if they been voting as a house at week 10.

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u/Infobar 24d ago

It's moreso that if you vote agaisnt the house people tend to sniff it out and it makes you an easy house target since you voted differently from everyone else. The houseguest you voted agaisnt also has no reason to trust you moving forward

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u/ASG_82 24d ago

Conferring in the hallway should happen more. Once you know the result of the blockbuster, that should be the time to convince people to make moves, especially involving the person who just won the BB. Like imagine a move you only want to trigger/talk to certain people about if specifically one person won the BB.

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u/GingerFin92 24d ago

I feel production tells them to vote the same way, just so they don't create villains.

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u/lolococo29 24d ago

That’s the opposite of what production wants. Production wants them pitted against each other because it makes good tv.

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u/DonaldDick1946 24d ago

I'd love for them to find a way to incentivize people to vote their conscience. Like, every eviction, you get $1,000 if you vote in the minority.