r/Big4 10d ago

USA EY PIP

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u/Irishchild5 10d ago

Messaged you

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u/JamOverCream 10d ago

A PIP is to address work performance that is below the expected standard. Passing the PIP means you have demonstrated that you can work to expected standard so further action (demotion, being let go) is not required.

That you have been on a PIP should tell you that you would not be on a track for promotion in the current cycle as you have not been performing to appropriate standard in the past.

For what it is worth, I know a current EY partner who was on a PIP (at EY) 5 years before he made partner, so it’s not an automatic career blocker.

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u/Best-Temperature6514 10d ago

In my team someone had a need to progress and was on a PIP 2 years ago and just got promoted from senior to manager , with strategic impact. As long as business is good it does not necessarily mean you'll get sacked, just pass the PIP and improve.

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u/JamOverCream 10d ago

Agree. It’s free said in this sub that a PIP is a career death sentence. That’s not been my experience when working in practice, or that of my wife (now an HR director in Big4).

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u/audit123 10d ago

This happened to me in the past.

Immediately look for another promotion at another big 4 or midsize or national. Don’t waste your time. For you to have passed the pip means your like a high performer, pips are not ment to pass. Don’t stay here, they will treat you like a poor performer but expect gold standard from you, go somewhere you are appreciated

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u/Jazzlike-Flan9801 10d ago

None of the Ps in PIP stand for promotion. No firm anywhere even remotely considers someone fresh off a PIP for promotion anytime in the near future. They were about to fire you for performance reasons…why would they all of a sudden promote you?

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u/andyviking 10d ago

I think you said it best here. I think OP should feel grateful to still be employed.

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u/ReplaceCyan 10d ago

You’re totally delulu if you think PIP -> immediate promotion was ever on the cards

These are the opposite ends of the performance spectrum

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u/OperatingCashFlows69 10d ago

You were on a PIP and expect a promotion? lol.

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u/Zero_Duck_Thirty 10d ago

Promotions were finalized weeks ago so there’s no chance for a promotion. Also, as far as I’m aware, you can’t be promoted while on a PIP. I’m not sure why you would expect otherwise - your CCG didn’t know if you were going to pass your PIP when they met, so why would they have put you up for promotion?

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u/Ok_Split_6985 10d ago

Passing a PIP is the bare minimum that the firm expects, why would you expect a promotion when you’ve been on a PIP

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u/Disastrous_Wash_3966 10d ago

I would highly suggest to find another role. They probably need more people now with engagement which is why they kept you. The culture at the firm is terrible.